Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by the_denv
IF you only knew what you think you know, you would truely be enlightened. You live in conspiracy fantasy land. Real masonry is something that would
boar you to tears. because it isn't about secret messages. It ins't about Knights Templar rituals. (there is a difference between the Knights and
the masons) But don't let me spoil your good time. Go on thinking that there is an inner circle of sooper sekret masons who write seekret code and
plot world domination. It's people like you who keep this site going after all.
I do not live in a conspiracy land. Believe it or not I try my best to keep it real
. I research a vast amount of subjects, just like everyone
there are subjects that I can go into depth with, there are some subjects I know a fair amount, some a general aspect and some that I don't know
about at all. After all there are thousands of years of books, articles, photos etc. One human being could not learn everything in just one life
Although, I am not excusing myself on this subject. But indeed, there obviously will be things that I don't know about. One thing I can assure you is
that I am not one of those people who associate Freemasonry with the illuminati. I know a lot of people use Freemasonry just for business meetings,
like workgroups etc and pass on each others business cards. I know the ceremonies are boring. A lot of Freemasons just think the ritual is a just as
boring as a lot of Christians think Mass is boring and the things they do.
Reading history, following what they do, trying to track the origins of where the belief came from...it all comes from the same source. Where it went
from there is what we see (and don't see/occult) today. You would be a good Freemason, just going along to get along. You probably think its great,
and it probably is for you. It has probably helped you a lot as we all have our own paths; weather they are for good or evil intent. Although just
like the Catholic church there are evil things that lay within. All originating from the same source, yet through different
Just because your lodge/rite/degree/country do not preform these certain rituals or use specific ciphers does not mean that the information regarding
the Knights Templar that I posted is not true, and there are certain lodges, rites and degree's of Freemasons that still perform reconstructions of
these original rituals and/or perform them as they were preformed originally.
inner circles. I am not a Freemason, but because I have been reading about it and researching it each and every single day for a very
long time has given me a vast amount of knowledge due to a very passionate dedication to find the origin of evil, to find out what the hell is wrong
with this world and where it came from.
Like the Catholic Church, the Jesuits and many more groups poison the main principle behind the idea of the church itself. There are the exact same
people within the Craft. Every single religion, every single group there always lay bad apples.
I am not mocking Freemasonry, people can believe whatever they want to believe. I would never want to come across that way in any of my posts.
There is evil in this world and its infiltrated every single god damn thing on this planet, thankfully a percentage of goodness remains unscathed.
Evil is within Freemasonry just as it is within every system
on this planet.
The Knights Templar have more connections with Freemasonry than they do Christianity.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
reply to post by the_denv
Not all jurisdictions use ciphers, some are still mouth to ear, and not all ciphers are similar. The one we use in my jurisdiction incorporates many
symbols in place of letters. Unless the particular Mason in question is using this cipher, and it is also the same as the ritual they utilize, it may
hold little relavance.
Indeed, not all jurisdictions (lodges etc) use ciphers, many different rules, many different teachings and each cipher is unique in each one; but
have the ability to decipher them all.
Symbols are fantastic, its my favorite subject. All I will say is that the use of symbols, is symbolic
weather you think it has relevancy or
reply to post by JoshNorton
I am impressed, seriously well done for deciphering some of the words
The cipher that I typed out above is the words that are said during the Master Mason initiation, what I typed out teaches the candidate the
lesson in Masonic-Philosophy; the immortality of the soul and a resurrection as such of your knowledge than of your life, a
enlightened soul, a changed soul, a transformed soul then the candidate rises within the Tomb of Transgression. Basically learning the secrets of the
The excerpt was not meant to be relevant, I stated in the same post that it was a test
, to "smoke" out the foxes
I am not implying anything of the previous degrees, it is written in a book that I have that belonged to a Grand Worshipful Master of the District of
Columbia. I do understand it, and my post was not about that at all, the quote was exactly that; a quote
It was a test.
But, if you want to know it speaks of a fabric that was situated on Mount Moriah, near the place where Abraham was about to offer up his son to
You need to be either a Master Mason, Grand Master, Grand Secretary etc to get a Cipher Book. Yet, here I have one; yes "Big Wooop". Those who do
not have one yet claim they know the truth, IS
, a big Whoops
- on their part. Hence the reason for my random post, to smoke out those
I am trying to help the flow of information on this thread, with such a title of this thread; one would care to think that they would even find a
slight clue to the truth. I did not see it, therefor I had to reignite the fire in order to get a good conversation and debate going for everyone else
to view for their research and personal interest.
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