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Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Beck has no real impact on American politics.
Originally posted by pigwithoutawig
reply to post by Doc Velocity
I have to give it to you Doc, I had to see what else you had to say. You're a great source of entertainment. And Lieberman is the definition of a corrupt politician.
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by pizzanazi75
comprehension is key to learning. Something you need brushing up on.
Apparently you need a little brushing up yourself, sister. Your liberal heroes in the Senate do not comprehend what it means when 57% of Americans don't want healthcare reform. Yet your liberal heroes push on, ignoring the will of the American People.
Hey, more power to them — let them frolic in their blind ignorance while they can. We'll deal with them in 2010, won't we?
Oh yes. We will.
— Doc Velocity
Originally posted by Josephus23
Originally posted by Angus123
Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by Angus123
I have noticed that ATS is more like WND every day.
Could you elaborate on this?
[edit on 18-12-2009 by Josephus23]
Look at threads that begins with any conservative premise, from the reasonable to the wild eyed whack jobs and they get the most stars. Spend a minute scanning the topics and you'll see it.
There is much less discussion of conspiracies and a lot more political posturing.
I agree that it seems like ATS is being attacked so as to derail legitimate threads.
I also seem to notice that the "de-bunkers" on ATS get a lot of stars right off the bat and usually offer very little in the way of actual information.
I personally think that TPTB are trying to associate true conservative beliefs with being mentally unstable, which is an atrocity. (see Glen Beck and the entire Faux News staff)
Our government was founded as a Republic, but with certain Democratic aspects. Probably one of the most conservative presidents of all time was Thomas Jefferson and he ran as a Democratic-Republican.
This takeover of our government has been several years in the making and during Jefferson's time trade with Europe was used to try and divide the States. Trade with Europe, protectionism and tariffs are what started the Civil War, not slavery. (I mean do you really think that the government that did what we did to the Native Americans gives a hoot about slavery?)
So in order to avoid Civil War, Jefferson just refused to allow trade with any other nation and he was re-elected. Jefferson was the ultimate isolationist.
Every single person serving in DC has sold their soul and they all need to be impeached. We need a populist revolution, but it is still possible to take our government back without resorting to violence. The tools are still left in our Constitution.
I just hope that it happens, because at this rate, it will eventually lead to violence if nothing is done.
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
This has already been addressed, but Rep. Wilson made a rude catcall ("You Lie!") during an Obama address — this was a truly rude and disrespectful gesture, we all agree.
Joe Wilson immediately apologized to the President in person, but House Democrats threatened to censure Wilson anyway.
Now, do you think Al Franken should apologize to Joe Lieberman in person, and do you think Senate Democrats would consider censuring Al Franken for his disrespectful gesture?
Hell. No. They. Won't.
Is this hypocritical of the Democrat-controlled Congress?
Oh, you bet your ass it is.
— Doc Velocity
Originally posted by pizzanazi75
reply to post by Doc Velocity
I can't wait til election night 2010....You think all this 'change' will happen then.....lol... it's gonna hurt when your wrong isn't it?
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by DraconianKing
Doc Velocity you must also be outraged at McCain, because he did the exact same thing in 2002. politicalwire.com...
Already covered this, too.
I do not like Sen. John McCain. He is a left-leaning moderate and he (and the moderate GW Bush) conspired with the liberal Democrats against conservatives.
I do not like McCain. I don't respect him. Case closed. No debate.
— Doc Velocity
Sorry Doc but GWB was and still is a tried and true conservative - his administration was more conservative than Reagan's ever was. You can run but you can't hide from your failed conservative policies. Trying to paint a conservative President as a "moderate" to salvage your ideology is not very becoming...
[edit on 12/18/2009 by Doc Velocity]
Originally posted by mwood
I find it funny as hell that people on here set up on their pedestal and judge the way these politicians act... There is a saying that is something like "you get the government you deserve"... I believe a nations government is a reflection of its citizens, maybe if we all grow up so will it reflect in our government.
Originally posted by Angus123
Originally posted by Josephus23
Originally posted by Angus123
Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by Angus123
I have noticed that ATS is more like WND every day.
Could you elaborate on this?
[edit on 18-12-2009 by Josephus23]
Look at threads that begins with any conservative premise, from the reasonable to the wild eyed whack jobs and they get the most stars. Spend a minute scanning the topics and you'll see it.
There is much less discussion of conspiracies and a lot more political posturing.
I agree that it seems like ATS is being attacked so as to derail legitimate threads.
I also seem to notice that the "de-bunkers" on ATS get a lot of stars right off the bat and usually offer very little in the way of actual information.
I personally think that TPTB are trying to associate true conservative beliefs with being mentally unstable, which is an atrocity. (see Glen Beck and the entire Faux News staff)
Our government was founded as a Republic, but with certain Democratic aspects. Probably one of the most conservative presidents of all time was Thomas Jefferson and he ran as a Democratic-Republican.
This takeover of our government has been several years in the making and during Jefferson's time trade with Europe was used to try and divide the States. Trade with Europe, protectionism and tariffs are what started the Civil War, not slavery. (I mean do you really think that the government that did what we did to the Native Americans gives a hoot about slavery?)
So in order to avoid Civil War, Jefferson just refused to allow trade with any other nation and he was re-elected. Jefferson was the ultimate isolationist.
Every single person serving in DC has sold their soul and they all need to be impeached. We need a populist revolution, but it is still possible to take our government back without resorting to violence. The tools are still left in our Constitution.
I just hope that it happens, because at this rate, it will eventually lead to violence if nothing is done.
A spot on analysis dude. I never thought about the slavery vs. Native decimation before. That was kind of a heavy weight you dropped on me there. I can't believe I've never thought of that, or even heard anyone else bring it up. Thanks for giving me something serious to think about.
Originally posted by MordanECU
I am so sick of all American's using the word Socialist so loosely... The people who use this word so loosely need to be put in a socialist environment for a while, then come back to the U.S. and see the difference.
Originally posted by MordanECU
I am so sick of all American's using the word Socialist so loosely. This is not a lighthearted word, its meaning is not what half of society believes it to be. This was started in the McCain/Palin rally's which showed nothing but complete ignorance on the part of Americans. It now is continuing into the Senate and MSM.
The people who use this word so loosely need to be put in a socialist environment for a while, then come back to the U.S. and see the difference. It is one thing for a person to have idea's and philosophy's that have a socialistic base and a whole different ballgame for a person who is an actual socialist who's ideas and philosophy integrate other forms of Political Science.
[edit on 18-12-2009 by MordanECU]
I don't know what you're smokin Doc but don't put it anywhere near me.. Your conservative boy GW did more to wreck this country than any President in the last 100 years. And he did it without conspiring with any liberal or moderate elements of the government. It was a conservative cabal that pulled a think-tank of conservative ideologues from Richard Pearle to Dick Cheney.