In His Capacity as IDIOT, Al Franken Disrupts Senate, page 13
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reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 02:57 PM by adifferentbreed
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Finding uncounted votes in the trunk of a car do not elections win. I personally feel he was "elected " to ensure that Obama had enough Dems in office to be filabuster proof. Just my own silly little thought.


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 03:06 PM by Beaux
Originally posted by Doc Velocity

Al Franken Objects to Joe Lieberman Speaking in Senate, Defies Senate Tradition, Makes a Complete ASS of Himself


Junior Senator Franken Tries to Silence Senior Senator Lieberman

Sen. Joe Lieberman just wanted an "additional moment" on the floor Thursday to finish his speech about health care. But when he asked for unanimous consent to finish his remarks, Democratic Sen. Al Franken wouldn't let him.

"In my capacity as the senator from Minnesota, I object," said Franken, who shrugged his shoulders as he was presiding over the Senate.

"Really?" Lieberman asked, flashing a grin. "Don't take it personally," as he was granted consent to include the rest of his remarks in the congressional record.

Franken didn't take it personally, leadership aides and his office said. Both said that the leadership is strictly enforcing a 10-minute speaking rule, an unusual move that is irking long-winded senators. Jim Manley, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said the objection was not directed at Lieberman, who is the source of liberal ire for his position on the health care bill.


Senator John McCain was boiling mad and immediately came to Lieberman's defense, rebuking junior Senator Franken on the spot, saying that in his 24 years in the Senate he had never seen a Senator denied his request for one more minute. "I don't know what's happening in this body," said McCain, "but it's wrong."

What's going on in the Senate, Mr. McCain, is called a socialist snow job.

— Doc Velocity



The only snow job going on here is McCain's attempt to make this seem more than it is. Here's a reminder:

In October 2002, McCain himself prevented Sen. Mark Dayton (D-MN) from finishing a speech opposing the Iraq war and Congress' move to authorize President Bush to launch military action against Iraq...Now C-SPAN has provided an explanation -- as well as the footage of McCain shutting down debate...The recovered footage shows Sen. Dayton asking for an extra 30 seconds to complete his speech. Sen. McCain's voice can be heard off-camera: "I object."

Hypocrisy, thy name is McCain. Oh, the anguish. Seems like a big deal to some when the roles are reversed.

rawstory.com...



reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 03:22 PM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Finding uncounted votes in the trunk of a car do not elections win. I personally feel he was "elected " to ensure that Obama had enough Dems in office to be filabuster proof. Just my own silly little thought.


If that were enough to disqualify him, it would have. Lord only knows his opposition pulled out all the stops to try and overturn things...and failed. I think that if the combined might of the GOP couldn't successfully call shenanigans on him...then he might just have gotten elected fair and square.


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 04:08 PM by Southern Guardian
reply to post by Lillydale


Lets not forget the strong support for Mr Wilsons "you lie" outburst during the presidents speech, and yet this is somehow an acception to conservatives.

Hypocrisies abound, but they dont care. Its whatever they can throw and whine about.


reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 01:02 AM by rnaa
reply to post by spiritualzombie




... The family of "NEW WORLD ORDER" spokespersons known as the Bush family.--- And you ate that up while calling people Anti-American for not drinking the Bush Kool-Aid. But now.... Now that we are talking about affordable Healthcare, the end of denying people coverage due to 'pre-existing conditions' and a strong push toward Environmentalism and accepting responsibility for our actions, that's when you see the evil??


EXACTLY.

Who was it again that proclaimed the coming of the NWO as our troops began marching on Kuwait? (hint: 16 Jan 1991 and again on 6 Mar)


reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 03:20 AM by spiritualzombie
What we need to do is focus our energy. Instead of spending so much energy fearing what Obama's intentions might be and what he might do.

Why not go after actual criminals? Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld. These guys actually did things. Things that might be considered illegal.

Warrantless wiretaps, firing of US Attorneys, manipulating the public perception of Iraq, using poor intelligence. Intelligence that was gathered by torturing prisoners beyond what was considered legal. Using a method of torture known to give false confessions. Why would Cheney and Rumsfeld authorize a form of torture known to generate false confessions? Confessions they used as proof to justify the invasion of Iraq.

What I'm trying to say is, you gotta pick your battles.

Do you go after the guy who hasn't really done anything yet, except promise affordable healthcare and a cleaner environment? Or do you go after the guys who actually committed crimes and are responsible for potentially hundreds of thousands of deaths in a con-job war.

Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, and many others should to go to prison for crimes committed. We the people can put them there. That's how you send the new world order a message from the people. Instead of looking to the future, look at the past eight years. They committed crimes. They should be investigated for crimes and possibly treason. That's the law. That's what's right. And it's because of what they DID, not what I fear they might do.
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