What's your opinion on it? did Troy even exist...and if so did the Trojan War even happen? what's your opinion on the matter?

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Ofcourse Troy existed!!!

See, there's this thing called Google... and if you bothered to do a little research, you'd find what your looking for. This isn't conspiracy, it's archeology.

1. Troy did exist, and the Acheans flattened it.

2. The ruins are in Asia Minor, in Turkey methinks. I can't remember.

3. The Trojan war was vastly embellished.


End of story.

DE

There's proof that Troy existed everywhere, and like DE said you should search on google.

Troy was a Greek colony on the west coast of Turkey, from ~1250 BC till, i'd guess about ~1000 BC. It was the first great archaeological excavation to be based solely on classical literature. A German businessman named Schliemann located it by taking Homer as literally as possible.

Home embellished, and has been embellished, quite a bit. There was certaintly an invasion by the homeland that ruined the place. It was not anything like a modern city in terms of size or population, definitely existed. Several of the personages actually bore the names of Homer's story, but probably had litttle resemblance otherwise to their characters in literature. (Kind of like Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar")

There. And you'll get much more & precise details off the net. so go to it, bub.

yes but there was also a documentry on the television saying none of the stuff was proven, they said a load of stuff about the people who said they had descovered troy and also said it was extremely highly unlikely that anyone would go to war for the love of a women in those times and also...that troy was no stronghold it had not area to put a gate, no proof of a gate even being there it was open, there were no towers for defense found or anything...and also what happened to it was it was attacked by Hittites (sp?) who raided and took all it's supplies...

and archaeologists say there's no written proof that the trojan war ever happened

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Umm.. what documentary have you been watching!?!!?!? (no offense) Troy really existed and was like a trade center of the ancient world. They REALLY went to war5 because they REALLY just wanted Troy's land... and also because the Greeks oppsedes over myths...

But really...the other thing is though...the fact of Achilles and the other guy (I forget his name) meeting in combat...this is off the actual city this is more onto the war itself...in my opinion I simply think Achilles was heavily armoured and the only weak armour was at his ankles/legs that was the only reason people thought he was immortal.

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Great site Nans!!! I added it to my favirotes...lol, and learned a lot. So there's your anwser DarthCorkus, Troy existed, or are you still not convinced....?

yes, I'm convinced on the troy existed but now I'm more onto the hero's of the battle Achilles and the other guy (WHO'S NAME I STILL CAN'T REMEMBER!)

Is it Patroclus? Did you read the link nans gave you?

no! Hector that's the guy...the one who fought and killed Achilles

Yeah the Trojan warrior. Achilles was wounded in the heel (remember this is fake dont get too involved in this...)

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(yeah I know lol I'm not totaly stupid *coughs* >.>)

Yeah that was him, I think the film (original not new) an archer from the top of the troy walls and hit his heel making him "mortal" and Hector ran him through.

You see, this si why it's called legend.


You're not supposed to think of it as fact. Homer's story is, as Strangecraft said,, jsut that- a story based on actual events. The trojan war happened, but probably not involving half the crap in the Illiad. Put it like this- we'll probably never know.

If you want to keep looking, go ahead. But do it on google.

[EDIT: The archer was Paris. Now go pick up the Illiad, and do some reading. ]

DE

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yeah that's all well and true but my point is was hector or achilles ever alive, I mean I know more then likely Achilles was never immortal and only had an ankle shot weakness but they could of still been the champions of both armies nevertheless.

Are you saying they might have existed? I really doubt it. Mabey like .00000000001% they did or maybe 0% at all. lol

well you never know I mean...all armies had a champion most of the times just think of Hannibal...he was the leader and the champion of is army...(and also almost destroyed the roman empire )