This country (UK) has gone beyond a joke.
It's not even funny anymore.
You can imagine a terrorist group in the not too distant future having a reign of terror with a balloon on a stick.

wow this has got to be one of the most absurd things that i have ever heard.

this world has been flushed.

First off, I've never seen a toy gun without an orange tip. Even air soft rifles and and other airsoft weapons have orange tips.

Explain to your kids that breaking off the orange tip or coloring over it is dangerous, cus it could be mistaken for a real gun. There.

I'd imagine this is a knee-jerk response to the officers shooting dead of a mentally ill man in a Morrisons store who was believed to be holding a Gun.Infact it turned out he was avoiding his Medication and was holding a BB Gun, yet shoppers obviously not knowing what a real or a fake Gun looks like told the police he was armed.

In response the Armed Unit took no chances and took the guy down with a fatal shot, a sad case of paranoia in todays age where its shoot first and ask questions later.

Just a shame the paranoia and the fact everyone is so "tripping out" on everything they see that either looks suspicious is now being passed down to our kids, to the point there having their innocence taking away.

I think at this point England needs to rip up the Magna Carter and just beg the Queen's forgiveness and maybe she will take pity on you guys.

Self governance really doesn't appear to be working out for you!

I want to say that nannies or more appropriately out of control abusive NAZI PIGS who see themselves as more important than the people they serve is one of the reasons there is a USA, because our ancestors grew tired of dickheads storming into their privacy, without due process, kidnapping them (arrest & transport), often raping them(beatings physical abuse & sexual gratification) & robing (fines court fees) them under the guise of protecting the state.

Problem is those same nannies (NAZI PIGS) are turning up running our schools in the US as we have children being suspended or even arrested for simply drawing a picture of a gun or having a toy gun. As soon as today's thought controlled and abused children become adults - I expect it to get worse. I'm afraid we're not but a dozen years behind you.

[edit on 5-12-2009 by verylowfrequency]

There go all the Lego gun sales that the Canada raid story encouraged.

How anyone can be treated like a weak child by even your own mother let alone your government and be happy about is beyound me. Aren't we pissed off enough yet to get rid of the whole mess? Just how pissed off do we have to be?

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First of all, this is the Daily Mail.... nuff said really..

Secondly, Toy guns have orange tips for precisely this reason. everyone knows that, so I think if most people saw a couple of 10 year olds with these they are unlikely to call the police. Even if they did, I should think that the Police have some common sense themselves and not shoot dead a kid with a toy gun.

Remember, the media (and especially the Mail) like to hype things up, but we all know people have more common sense than this.

[edit on 5/12/09 by stumason]

you know, i worry about the United States and what it's becoming, but the UK is ALREADY at that V For Vendetta point.

Originally posted by ROBL240
In response the Armed Unit took no chances and took the guy down with a fatal shot, a sad case of paranoia in todays age where its shoot first and ask questions later.

Well what would you do? If you are being told by several people that someone has a gun and you arrive on the scene and see a gun, are you going to take the time to contemplate whether it is real or not?

Better yet, say you own a gun and someone comes into your house with a gun and points it at you. Can you really and truly say with confidence that your instinctive reaction would not be to fire immediately? Do you really think you, if put in that situation, would 'ask questions first' to see if the gun was real?

If presented with a threat like that, all thought goes out the window because there is simply no time. That's what instinct is. And when presented with a potentially life threatening situation, SURVIVAL instinct kicks in, which causes even more drastic responses.

Its easy for us to sit here and analyze what happened after the fact, but until we are in that situation with the adrenaline, the fear, and the uncertainty, all fueling our instinctive response to any sudden movement by anyone involved, we cannot rightfully judge what happened unless the force used was so blatantly excessive that it cannot be ignored. In that particular case, however, it was not.

As for this news article, yes it is a knee-jerk reaction and yes it is excessive, but to compare it to that particular incident is unfair and incorrect.

The whole system appears to have entered a tunnel vision and accelerating.
Perhaps the symbolism of that constantly broken LHC accelerator is on the spot?

[edit on 5-12-2009 by DangerDeath]

The fact is with this situation they had a stand-off with the man. At no time where they ever threatened nor did he ever threaten himself, he was simply shot for being "armed."
Had they called Specialists in such as Negotiators then they'd have quickly etablished the man was unstabled and was seeking help/attention. Instead the Armed squad simply put a bullet in him without ever questioning his motives.

Originally posted by ukmadmax
This country (UK) has gone beyond a joke.
It's not even funny anymore.
You can imagine a terrorist group in the not too distant future having a reign of terror with a balloon on a stick.

no offense but it seems the only good things now a days about the UK is the Amazing music and the great football ......

I hope you guys are not a test run for us........anything that happens there expect it to be twice as bad once " they" perfect it on us here..

I would never buy a child a toy weapon... If I wanted him to learn about the use of deadly force, I'd buy him a real firearm as well as a brace of double-edged throwing knives.

— Doc Velocity