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Buy your children toy weapons for Christmas and you could face an armed raid, police warn parents

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posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 02:29 AM
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this is an outrage!
who are they to tell me my children cant run around pointing fake guns at each other all day and pretending to shoot and kill stuff.
what is this world coming to.




posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 04:55 AM
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You can't have real or fake guns? How do you protect your family from an armed robber? I guess you'll just have to pray you won't get mugged.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 05:28 AM
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What an utter load of cr*p this government and the police spew..

They constantly talk out their bums..



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 05:34 AM
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www.nationalpost.com...






Lego gun at work brings in the SWAT team



Of all the things available for order on the Internet, it was a replica Lego gun that grabbed Jeremy Bell's attention.

The 29-year-old partner at teehan+lax, a downtown Toronto user-experience design firm, had ordered the gun from the online retailer BrickGun, which sells realistic Lego replicas of firearms. Just how realistic, Jeremy would soon find out in an encounter with the friendly neighbourhood SWAT team.

After receiving the Lego gun kit in the mail on Wednesday, he brought it to work to show his colleagues.

"I decided to put it together," Mr. Bell wrote on his blog yesterday. "I literally assembled it, handed it to a coworker (who promptly broke it) and then put it back in the box."

It was the end of the day so Mr. Bell and a few colleagues decided to wind down by playing a few rounds of the video game Modern Warfare 2 at the office before heading home. A little while later, sudden, intense yelling filled the office hallways.

"We originally thought there was some sort of domestic dispute out there ... that was until I clearly heard my name," said Mr. Bell.

"The guy sounded seriously angry and was instructing me to slowly come into the hall with my hands on my head."

It was Toronto's Emergency Task Force, more commonly known as the SWAT team, responding to calls of a man in an office with a gun.

"I was surrounded by about six SWAT guys armed with shotguns and assault rifles," he said. "Once they confirmed I wasn't packing any Lego heat, I walked backwards towards them, was then cuffed, pulled into the stairwell and thrown against the wall."

While two members of the SWAT team kept Mr. Bell pressed against the wall, he explained that there was a Lego gun in pieces in his office. Sure enough, a few minutes later, an officer confirmed it.

"We found it ... it's Lego," Mr. Bell recalled the officer saying, as the police promptly uncuffed him.

It turns out police were tipped off by a neighbour whose apartment looks in on Mr. Bell's office. Police say a call came in shortly after 5:30 p.m. with the caller reporting that a man was sitting in his office with a gun on his desk and the door closed (Mr. Bell had been on an earlier conference call so had closed the door).

"With calls like this you have to be safe, not sorry," said Const. Tony Vella, a Toronto police spokesman. "Until we know it's not a gun, we have to take it seriously."

Mr. Bell says he holds no grudges against the police, considering how real the toy gun looks.

"If there was someone in here with a gun I'd expect nothing less," he said. "However, it wasn't like I was walking around downtown with it. I didn't actually do anything with it."

Mr. Bell was released and faces no charges.

As for why he bought the toy gun in the first place, blame it on a love for Lego.

"I've always been a fan of Lego, so I decided to pick it up," Mr. Bell said. "I wish I had a decent reason for purchasing it, but I don't. For shame, I suppose."





posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 06:34 AM
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Doesn't stop stupid people however.

Royal Show toy gun sparks police raid in Lathlain


HEAVILY armed police surrounded a Lathlain house after a man was seen carrying a firearm that was later found to be a toy gun bought at the Royal Show.

Officers from WA's most elite squads, the Tactical Response Group, Major Incident Group and Regional Operations Group, were called in to investigate reports the man, an 18-year-old, was brandishing the shotgun around Gallipoli St around 10pm.

``We took action basically to search his house and find it (the firearm),'' Acting Detective Senior Sergeant Jade Smith told PerthNow.


And it doesn't really look like a toy gun to me tho. The news video had a comparison;




(obviously the fake is the one on the bottom, without the tag)

[edit on 6/12/2009 by Ha`la`tha]



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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It is becoming clear that this case is a provocation. Spying on others will soon become a job, a "taster" is a historical occupation in certain political (oppressive) systems. Taster buzzes - police arrives



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 08:49 AM
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Well tbh why would you want to buy your child a gun? are you saying its ok for you to go around shooting people even if its pretend. What sort of message are you giving to our kids....No wonder the worlds getting more violent.....



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 08:56 AM
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Why in the world would you be buying a "toy" gun to give your child anyway?
What message are you sending a child when you buy them a toy gun?

I remember when I got a Superman outfit for xmas back in the 60's. I felt so invincible I jumped out of a tree cause I was under the impression I could fly.

Maybe the cops would be happier if the dept. stores would start selling "swat team/atf" outfits complete with plastic shields and helmets and peppermint spray.

What a goofy world we live in.

When confronted by overbearing law enforcement personnel, just say, "I will neither resist nor will I surrender", and watch their heads spin around like the robot girls in Austin Powers!!!!!

peas



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Donnie Darko
you know, i worry about the United States and what it's becoming, but the UK is ALREADY at that V For Vendetta point.

At least the press in the UK is covering climategate, not ignoring it like the US.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by wx4caster
wow this has got to be one of the most absurd things that i have ever heard.

this world has been flushed.

actually, the dailymail is one of the more absurd and sensationalist hack rags going in the UK. :-)

I'm not surprised they write this sort of nonsense.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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After 9-11 I went on a trip to Universal studios in FL. There I bought a foot tall Terminator action figure. The figure itself had a tiny toy gun, maybe just a few inches long. I got a lecture from the security people about trying to bring weapons onboard the plane and they were about to confiscate the toy.

Our current situation often defies all common reason.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by theonlyrusty
I remember when I got a Superman outfit for xmas back in the 60's. I felt so invincible I jumped out of a tree cause I was under the impression I could fly.


Uhh so the rest of society must pay for YOUR behaviour as a child?

I don't think so.




posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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Ridiculous!! boys need boy toys! So they can grow up to be men.. not little girls.

I grew up in Texas and lots guy would drive to high school with their shotguns on racks in their truck. Most all carried pocketknives. (probably so they could open their can of Copenhagen) If anyone got in a fight..it was a good ol fistfight. It would've been sign of weakness to pull gun or knife. I don't think it' ok to have weapons at school...not sayin that at all. But is a shame how things have become.

I wonder what happened to little boy who brought his boyscout kit to school?



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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Here in the states toy guns have a bright neon orange tip on the barrel to help distinguish the difference from real guns. But as a kid i always hacked the end off of it to make it look more real. At least i was playing like i was shooting "BaD" guys as opposed to going on a random killing spree. I have no problem with toy guns, barbie dolls on the other hand freak me out a little.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by DangerDeath
It is becoming clear that this case is a provocation. Spying on others will soon become a job, a "taster" is a historical occupation in certain political (oppressive) systems. Taster buzzes - police arrives


IMO, this poster makes the key point here. It used to be that we in the West felt sorry for people in the communist countries because the secret police had them all spying on each other and turning their neighbors into the secret police for all sorts of offenses - both real and contrived.

Unfortunately, it sounds like you now have the same in the UK.

UK ------> USSK - United Soviet Socialist Kingdom

If the muslims don't turn the UK into a caliphate first.



[edit on 12/6/2009 by centurion1211]



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Helmkat
After 9-11 I went on a trip to Universal studios in FL. There I bought a foot tall Terminator action figure. The figure itself had a tiny toy gun, maybe just a few inches long. I got a lecture from the security people about trying to bring weapons onboard the plane and they were about to confiscate the toy.


The "after 9/11" period was openly paranoid and can't be used as a benchmark. I saw heirloom manicure sets (passed on from grandma etc) being confiscated, and the unhappy owner sobbing. I had to check in luggage because I dared to carry a simple umbrella (which they thought can be used as a weapon). Well, I give you that, recently I had a cup of Dannon yogurt confiscated, so the paranoia is probably running strong still



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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I believe It and dosn't surprise me at all



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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They are toy guns kids can play with them and not be taught gun safety.
I played with toys guns i have turned out fine. however who care what the government say really. I'll do what i want thanks.


Does this mean dont buy water guns as they shoot water some one could drown oh no teach them more safety rules.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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it does sound rather ridiculous to make such a threat.
we know its only more control, and not out of safety or concern...

but i mean, in my humble opinion.... i feel it was retarded for adults to start making "toy guns" for children in the first place.

perhaps if the brilliant folks who came up with the ingenious idea in the first place...
never decided that , teaching children that guns are fun toys to play with and point at each other, maybe our Youth wouldnt be soo mssed up?

sure, toy guns cant take all the blame for society being fkt,
but they play a huge role in the psychology of children, whether people like it or not.

no, im not against guns, i own many . lol

I do think that making toys guns for kids is stupid though.

ohh here is a thought........

BAN THE MAKING OF TOY GUNS~ and you wont have to worry about locking up the parents for buying them, or about children getting shot for pointing them at the wrong person.

pretty simple really.

and i also think it would be a good step towards creating the future that soo many of us can see, but not quite reach yet.

would it be a terrible thing to stop making toy guns altogether?

sure it'll piss some adults off im sure, itll make some children unhappy for a few moments im sure.....

but can we really not think of better things to put in our children hands than fake guns, ..... when all we do once they grow up, is tell them. "no, guns are bad" and try to keep them away from them anyway?

"" Here, you can use play with these as a child, but when you grow up, dont you touch these they are dangerous!! ""

doh!!

soo, if they are going to commit to criminalizing parents for such thing...

should they not also warn the toymakers of the same thing?

if not, thats kinda effed up.....

"sure you toymakers can make them... but dont you people buy them or else"!!

wtf.



posted on Dec, 6 2009 @ 08:09 PM
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there is a reason that all toy guns have the orange tip on the end of them. it is so people can tell they are toys. i would think the cops would find this easy to spot out.



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