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reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 10:06 AM by Byrd
Originally posted by Mr Mask
Well then...

I find it insensitive that you find my "way cooler" idea "offensive".

How dare you question my awesome idea?


It's actually similar to cybershamanism... but I'm afraid it has all the depth of a Pokemon card game. That said, in cybershamanism (not the program, but a neoshamanism tradition) there ARE artificial entities that are totems. Cybershamans do work with them in certain types of healing and in ways very similar to the totems.

(Cybershamanism and technoshamanism aren't the same thing... in case you run across that confusion. Martinkova's article on it is a classic for anyone studying the matter
archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de...)

Yknow...imagine the first Indian to "make up" the "animal thing", and some other Indian laughing at his idea and calling it humor...you would have never got to have your own totem-beast.


Since the first beliefs of clan and tribal groups are totemic (the "first religion" of any people is always a form of shamanism), no one would have laughed it off. I think you aren't quite getting the whole concept.

It's not for everyone.

And for the curious, my totem (I didn't ask for him) is Coyote. If you use totems or work with totems you will have multiple totems throughout your life as is needed. Dragon is a totem I call on frequently, as is Wolf.


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 10:19 AM by Nola213
OP- thank you, I usually don't have any luck with these. I've done some VERY meditative ones on you tube as well while listening to audio of forest and animal sound with headphones on, and nothing came to me.

But for some reason as I was again drawing a blank and feeling hopeless while reading your story at the very end when you said now picture hearing the animals footsteps coming toward you from the direction you first hear them...(well I didn't hear them at first so I imagined it must have been something small), then when you said open your eyes an look at your spirit animal, again with very little hope, out of nowhere I got a clear image of a rabbit standing on it's hind legs, and two front paws up looking at me. It was light brown color, but it did not speak.., it just kind of nodded, then scampered off, never looking back again.

I didn't get a name or anything, maybe next time.

Whats wierd is after this I checked the Chinese Zodiac, and I'm born in the year of the rabbit, which I had no idea.

thanks again

**EDIT**

After searching youtube for a few minutes, I found the video I was speaking of. It's REALLY REALLY good, and may help anyone haveing trouble finding thier spirit guide (as the video is VERY meditative, with the sounds of the forrest, and the woman telling a similiar story as in the OP)
Oddly I did come across some videos on how to find your "power" animal. This term I've never hear of either, and heres the video, sit back, close your eyes, or keep them open there is some beautiful scenery in the video, so maybe try both. But I think relaxed w/ eyes closed is best. Good Luck!

After watching the video again, I'd DEFINITELY SUGGEST you keep you eyes closed during this, although there is great video of nature, there is also some video of different insects and what not which may kind of swing your thoughts toward that creature as your guide. She also reccomends you turn off you telephone, television, and COMPUTER! (an honest mistake but I found it funny, cause if you did that, the video would turn off obviously, hehe).

But yea turn off any exterior noises, relax, close your eyes, and listen. Again godd Luck.



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reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 10:35 AM by VonDoomen
This is an experience my brother had with a local medicine man of the Iriquois Indian tribe. HE was invited to take part in a religious ceremony and to try the sweat lodge. for those of you who do not know, a sweat lodge is a building, or in this case a TP, in which they have a roaring fire, lots of sacred smoke(Sage, not POT) and they splash water on you occasionaly.

He had to sit down indian style the entire time, with one arm (inner elbow) over his eyes. and you basically meditate until you start seeing visions. This is his experience.

==
He was at the base of an immensly huge mountain and a loud booming voice told him "CLIMB". At which he started to climb. He said he climbed for what seemed like an eternity. Eventually he stopped, realizing that he never got closer to the peak of the mountain. He said "I cannot climb this, this goes on forever" At this point a GIANT eagle swooped down and grabbed him by his shoulders. The eagles claws apparently went through his solar plexus/shoulder area. He said for an instant, IT was an immense sharp pain (probly what you would imagine if eagle talons had poked through this part of your body) and then the pain was gone, giving him a sense of safety and eagerness to "move on". The eagle took him to the peak of a mountain in which there was a cave with a light emminating from it(while flying up the mountain, a Jaguar followed them on the ground). The eagle motioned him with his head to go in. He walked into the cave to see a fire with a man sitting across it with a hood over his head (think stryder from LOTR) smoking a pipe. The man said "Adam, I have been waiting for you for a LONG time."

Unfortunately It was at this point that the medicine man woke him up(there is a limit to how long you can stay in these lodges due to dehydration, especially your first times).

According to the medicine man, the eagle and jaguar are Adams spirit animals or animal guides. The act of trying to climb an infinite mountain, and having to rely on an eagle to go to the top meant that
He needs to be more open to outside help, and that no one can go at it alone forever. He plans on going back again when he is invited for a session. Currently he see's the medicine man to talk maybe 1-2 times a month just to talk and they share/trade goods and services. But like I said, he has to wait for the right time to try again.

Hope you guys enjoyed the little story


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 11:04 AM by djusdjus
reply to post by Asktheanimals



"The white mans ways offer us nothing"


You were going somewhere until you said this remarkably near sighted thing. lol

Do you not know of the shamanic traditions of the steppes? the Celts? The Gauls? The Angles?

Not to mention the Gnostic traditions or for that matter Judaeo-Christian traditions.

White people cannot be diminished by way of acerbic commentary.
They bring as much value as any ethnicity and in fact have made huge contributions overall to all civilization as we know it.

Hating on white people is foolish.


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 12:14 PM by gazerstar

Years ago, I found this book, and it has helped me understand many things.
books.google.ca... lt&resnum=4&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Great thread idea.


OMG! I was just about to post a link to that book. That just so happens to be the book that I'm reading right now. Synchronicity anyone? It's EXCELLENT (as well as Nature Speak by the same author), and I heartily recommend it.


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 01:20 PM by gazerstar
reply to post by double_frick



Totem guides can change throughout our lives. If the old ones that were relevant in the past are no longer relevant now, maybe you have new ones or maybe you don't need any at this particular stage in your life. I'd meditate, start paying more attention to your surroundings, or spend some time in nature. If you encounter your guide, look up its meaning (strong points) and see how that might apply to your life right now.



reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 01:52 PM by double_frick
reply to post by gazerstar



i guess i wasn't making sense.

i do know my totem animal now, at this time, but other than recreating images i see through drawing and such i do not know how i can use these energies on my path.


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 02:11 PM by gazerstar
reply to post by double_frick



Take on the characteristics of your animal. Whatever habits and strengths that it has, incorporate those strengths and habits into your own character.

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reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 02:17 PM by Wolf 
reply to post by Agree2Disagree



Thought you might be interested in this!

Usually when a totem enters your life it is for a reason, They guide you when you need guiding!

www.animaltotem.com...


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 02:57 PM by Mr Mask
reply to post by Byrd



Cybershamens...sounds more legit then "invisible animals". I will surly look into it.

Thanks for the heads up.


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 03:16 PM by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by djusdjus



Again, different tribes had different cultural beliefs.

To say that I'm borderline disrespectful is to be arrogant and assume that you know me. I'm simply offering an easier way than what is prescribed. If you read the OP, I did go out in the forest. I was on the Res and Rory(my friend) took me out and we stayed out for 4 days. Of course it takes time. I'm not saying that the first attempt is going to be succesful. NOWHERE did I state that. I think everybody here knows meditation is a practice of patience.

Is it wrong that I'm offering a way for those who may not have the time and fortitude to forgo such a trial? Is it wrong for me to reach out and let others enjoy native culture? Is it wrong to open minds to the cultural practices that don't really get the attention they deserve?


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 04:12 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to
post by Byrd



Cybershamens...sounds more legit then "invisible animals". I will surly look into it.

Thanks for the heads up.


You may find technoshamanism more attractive. Cybershamans are generally high level geeks and the things they work with are energy patterns and flow and behaviors in technology -- they can "walk to the other world" simply by many methods. Technoshamans are interested in binaural beats, fractal imagery (and combining them)... there's lots of technoshaman music out there that can be used to enhance your life (bring you up when you're down, give you energy, etc, etc, etc).


reply posted on 3-12-2009 @ 04:28 PM by Nola213
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by Alexander1111
Mine is the praying mantis. I did a guided meditation a year ago where you were supposed to meet your totem animal and this is what appeared. I don't really know what it means or symbolises...


Patience, for one thing. The mantis knows what it needs and gets it... patiently. It doesn't dart around like the dragonfly chasing down food. It waits and watches for opportunities.

In order to fully explore what it means to you, you can also do something like "mind mapping"... sit and think about a mantis and write down all the things that occur to you, no matter how trivial or how insightful (like "big eyes" or "spiky forearms" or "eats bugs"). Eventually one of those things will give you an "aha!" sort of moment to explore (like "antenna" = "open to receiving messages").

Explore them.


Interesting. Ok so that answers some questions (like the one Double_Frick asked a few posts ago) on what you can do once you know what your spirit/totem animal are; and how you can go about makeing use of it.

Good post!

I shall do this later on when I have sometime with my newly found spirit animal.

Question though. I hear alot of people saying the animal can change throughout the course of ones life. I was always under the impression, and was given the impression by alot of videos on the subject that you have one spirit animal guide, and thats it. It's yours for good, forever watching over you, and walking beside you, and you should even know it's name if you do the meditation and "supposed rituals" correctly.

I mean didn't the Native Americans have names given to them, containing a certain animal(I suppose these names were different and had nothing to do with thier real "totem/spirit animal),because these names don't change. I mean once they gave "Chief Sitting Bull" that name, he was called Chief Sitting Bull for his entire life. But I'm thinking now that these names have nothing to do with ones totem animal. I don't think his Animal guide was a bull. Maybe it was, who knows. I'm not learned at all on the subject of Native American lore and spirituality.

So it's a definite yes that you animal guide changes over the course of your life? How often?

Maybe thats why I had trouble figuring mine out, cause the first time, I tried many years ago I kept getting this image of a snake, but it wouldn't come to me, it was sort of moveing away, and hiding from me as I looked for it( this was when I meditated on the video I posted above).

But when I was reading the OP and then closed my eyes and meditated on that, clearly a rabbit appeared in my mind, I could see it very detailed.

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