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RIDLEY TOWNSHIP, Pa. – A World War II veteran says a woman who pretended her car had broken down so she could get into his Pennsylvania home grabbed two guns from his collection and engaged him in a shootout before jumping out a window with the weapons.
Donald Kaighn (CAYN') tells Philadelphia's WPVI-TV the woman sprayed him with lighter fluid and wrestled him in the kitchen Monday night before he grabbed a gun and chased her upstairs, where she found two guns and they had a shootout. He wasn't badly hurt.
The 84-year-old Kaighn says when he went downstairs to call police the woman snatched jewelry. Fingerprints show she leaped from a second-floor window of the home in suburban Ridley Township.
Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by midnightbrigade
you are of course right... but lets be fair... A mad man knocking on my door with a hatchet is just going to get himself shot in the face... A lady in distress begging to use my phone to call for help is going to get an entirely different reaction... if our places were reversed I too might have let her in... but the minute she went for the lighter fluid she would have been surprised I carry a XD-40 Subcompact in a pancake holster.
Anymore we just have to set aside our Gender bias too... that'll get you killed
[edit on 2-12-2009 by DaddyBare]
Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by BillyTheCat
You bet I do... even went to all the trouble of getting a concealed carry permit too...
want to know why???
six years ago my fifteen year old son was murdered, took a shot gun blast to his chest...
if I had a weapon on me at the time it might not have happened...
I still have three other kids and now a beautiful happy little granddaughter....
I wont make the mistake of being unarmed again...
Some lessons you learn the hard way...
Originally posted by DaddyBare
thanks BillyTheCat and Hastobemoretolife... I'd be proud to stand back to back with you guys anytime...
All I'm saying is when it happens... it happens fast... to fast... you have to plan ahead as all you have time to do is react...
Originally posted by DaddyBare
Now look I am the most pro gun person you'll meet. But I am also a proponent of proper training and safe gun handling.. when I say that I mean as a responsable gun owner you have to be in control of all your weapon's at all times! when their not in your hand they should be unloaded or secured with trigger locks, gun safe or some other devise that prevents something like the story I'm about to share...
No one would have expected that to happen, but it did, and due to his lack of properly securing his unattended weapons he very nearly paid a hefty price! If it's in your home you are responsible to insure unauthorized persons do not gain access to your loaded weapon's! That's not asking a lot is it?
Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by BillyTheCat
You bet I do... even went to all the trouble of getting a concealed carry permit too...
want to know why???
six years ago my fifteen year old son was murdered, took a shot gun blast to his chest...
if I had a weapon on me at the time it might not have happened...
I still have three other kids and now a beautiful happy little granddaughter....
I wont make the mistake of being unarmed again...
Some lessons you learn the hard way...
Originally posted by BillyTheCat
Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by midnightbrigade
you are of course right... but lets be fair... A mad man knocking on my door with a hatchet is just going to get himself shot in the face... A lady in distress begging to use my phone to call for help is going to get an entirely different reaction... if our places were reversed I too might have let her in... but the minute she went for the lighter fluid she would have been surprised I carry a XD-40 Subcompact in a pancake holster.
Anymore we just have to set aside our Gender bias too... that'll get you killed
[edit on 2-12-2009 by DaddyBare]
What??? You carry even when you are at home relaxing in front of the TV with a beer?
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by DaddyBare
I think anyone who owns a gun should be required by law to have a gun safe, that is how it is in the UK and it's rare you hear of a legal firearm being used in a crime.
I want to make ATS users aware of something though. Trigger locks suck, most of them can be removed with a paperclip in seconds if you know what you're doing. If you don't know what you're doing they can still be easily removed with a paperclip, just takes a little longer. What i'm saying is please, if you have children then don't rely on trigger locks.