Nun Claims Sex is Rife Within Catholic Church

Did I read the OP correctly..?....a priest (male) wanting to have sex with a nun (female)..?..?...

That really is shocking...I thought all priests had the hots for little boys....wow...learn something new everyday...

Religion is the root to all evil...

PEACE and LOVE...

Some bad apples have managed to get into the Church's bushells, but it always astounds me how loud the outcry is while a much greater problem is essentially ignored. Has media ignored sex abuse in school?

“[T]hink the Catholic Church has a problem?” she said. “The physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests.”

So, we're forced to wonder why is the outcry so much louder when one of these miscreants comes from the Church and so relatively undiscussed when they come out of the teaching pool at a public school? There are several factors, IMO. Factor #1 is obviously the fact that there are some out there who never miss any opportunity to point at religious institutions. Whether this stems from ignorant hatred or fear that they have alligned themselves incorrectly, I do not know, but it certainly exists. Factor #2 is the strength of the teachers' union. Politicians and even media personalities are scared to death to go against the union because of the almost certain advertising boycotts and union voter support such an action results in.

Let's be frank here... the evidence shows that kids are sexually victimized in the public school system. The facts also show that the same system experienced the exact same crap as the Church during the 70s and 80s. When a teacher was accused, the school adminsitration covered it up and sent the problem teacher to another district, where they could offend again rather than firing them and pressing charges. Same crap the Church did. The part of the equation that should have made the public school scandals MUCH bigger than anything coming out of the Chruch was the fact that the law requires us to send our children to these public schools. No such law exists in regards to church. The molestors in schools were guaranteed a steady stream of fresh victims and Uncle Sam was the one signing the guarantee.

Am I saying that public school is bad and all teachers are sexual predators? Absolutely not! That would be a purely stupid statement to make. I am, however, saying that comments like "The Catholic Church is evil and the Pope is the Antichrist" is every bit as imbecillic as one saying "The public school system is evil and the secretary of education is the devil." The most basic truth is the Church is made up of human beings who are falible... just like every other institution in the world.

More proof that one extreme always begets another - in every single area of life, no matter what it is! (in this case, celibacy--->sexual abuse)

Without balance and acceptance of reality, all is lost.
The Catholic Church needs to be put to rest already.

A true Catholic will not support the Catholic Church/Catholic Religion we see today.

No doubt there are good fellows in the Church who do help people out, but as a whole - it is a joke.

reply to post by burdman30ott6


sorry, but the Catholic church has more than just a "few bad apples" - their problem is EPIDEMIC. Nothing there even compares to the public school system, where yes, there are a few bad apples. But the Catholic church proves over and over and over again to have a serious stinking problem with sexual abuse.

Any organization, be it religious, educational, or social that covers up this kind of abuse on the part of its members instead of turning them in to the authorities and turfing them out if proven guilty is only proving that it endorses that behaviour in the first place.

That makes the ruling administration of that organization complicit and certainly not above the law either, in my eyes.

reply to post by stereovoyaged
yes and I'm sure given time , coercion and enough fluoride(dumming down) as has been the case for fornication and sodomy , rape and adultery will soon be cleansed , cool and legal to do because some rapist or adulterer/bigamist with enough clout , feels these should be his rights. Then in a few hundred years or so people will wake up and say "what were these perverse neanderthals thinking!" and put all 4 back on the deviant list.

Then some future sexual degenerates(alfred kinsey part 2) will start all over again crying and whining about their rights to screw everything and anything they please and when they get sick they should live off taxpayers or when people are offended by their behavior those people should be punished. When they get an unwanted pregnancy , rush to the abortion clinic , it's the child's fault or it's society's fault.

Ah the vicious cycle.

Just the rise and fall of civilizations I guess , have fun with it.

I went to a catholic school run by priests and brothers, and I can tell you one thing I discovered: they are human – with all of our human failings. That the rules of celibacy are ignored from time-to-time, or more than that, is a total non-story – and has been for hundreds of years (anyone read Chaucer? Well done to the Telegraph for reporting a ‘scandal’ that wouldn’t have even raised an eyebrow in the 14th Century). When you think that most of us wouldn’t put up with celibacy for a month, let alone a lifetime, is it so surprising that occasionally a few priests and nuns stray from their vows? And sexual predators will always use their positions to bully their victims – no matter what organization they are in: the church, industry, civil service, armed forces etc, etc, etc.

On another note, pardon me for my political incorrectness, but Sister Jesme looks like a right old boot. If you’ve ever read the Devils of Loudun (or seen the 1971 film), you’ll know the havoc that sexually frustrated old boots with vivid imaginations can cause in religious communities. I’m not saying this is DEFINITELY the case, but it is another consideration worth bearing in mind.

On the whole, most people who join the catholic church as priests and nuns have in their hearts a love of God, and a desire to serve Him by ministering to people’s spiritual needs. At grass roots level they bring a lot of comfort to people: the sick, the bereaved, the outcasts, the poor etc, etc. That’s OK by me. There might be a lot I don’t agree with about the RC church: lack of transparency, cover ups, hypocrisy, views on contraception, views on homosexuality etc but on the whole their ordinary representatives do more good than evil in the community.

Theres nothing I like more than seeing probably THE WORST entity in the history of humanity getting exposed for its hypocrisy and out-right corruption.

You have to wonder how much different and better the world would be without the catholic church. This is not an opinion. This is not up for debate. This is a matter of fact. Any arguments against this will be met with ridicule and an unstoppable force called: The Truth

reply to post by Selahobed

There is NOTHING christian about the vatican.

Of course there is, it practically invented it everyone else was a heretic, those evil wasters lol.

All this talk about nuns pious porno and what with that pornographic body suit, I'm sweating and am of to beat the bishop


In all seriousness, it's well past time the doors were closed on the catholic church. Shud the god damned thing down and get all that wealth and property back where it belongs. With the decedents of the poor bastards it was robbed from.

Try going even a month without sex and you're likely to want to screw anything that moves. Now try doing that over a lifetime and your sexual demons are likely to cause you to take inappropriate actions.

Originally posted by andy1033


You people have no idea what christianity has done for the world. Do you really believe pagan religions that always was, was better, lol.

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Stop stereotyping. You people have no idea what Christianity has done for the world. Tell my, why did the religion of Christianity need to take over many pagan celebrations ????? Why does Islam feel it needs to rid the world of Judaism and Christianity.

It's all about power and control.......

reply to post by burdman30ott6

Some bad apples have managed to get into the Church's bushells, but it always astounds me how loud the outcry is while a much greater problem is essentially ignored. Has media ignored sex abuse in school?

To an extent I will agree but the most pressing problem for the RCC is that it appears to be creating the pedo from scratch.

One has to wonder how many of these men in frocks, would even entertain the though of committing these actions had they been raised with a healthy attitude toward sex.

Many societies as a whole are appearing to be recovering from centuries of sexual repression by fear, and are now re learning that sex is good it's fun blah blah and perhaps over compensating to the point of deviation in minority cases.

The catholic church seems to be a breading ground for sexual confusion, to enter into (or be raised) this institutional believing that sex is something bad to begin with is asking for trouble.

reply to post by colec156

why did the religion of Christianity need to take over many pagan celebrations ?????

Take a couple of minutes out of your box and you may learn something, hey you don't even have to read.

Quite a nice doc actually.

Why does Islam feel it needs to rid the world of Judaism and Christianity.

For the very same reasons that xtianity wanted to get rid of judasim and islam

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Clearly the Catholic Church is a mess. Not only have altar boys been abused ever since the church began but nuns as well. People always focus on the altar boys but not much is said for the thousands of nuns that get raped every year by priests.

And of course there's all kinds of priests in homosexual relationships with other priests.

Easily one of the most hypocritical organizations on the planet. I'm a recovering Catholic myself.....

Catholic = Pathetic

reply to post by moocowman


I kind of suspected you were a bishop basher

I agree that the wealth of all churches and all denominations should be given to the poor. One can only guess at the obsurd amount of money these entities withold from the people who it was meant for.

Whether you believe it or not; one day they WILL answer for it!

Originally posted by reasonable
But as the christians say.. those sodomized boys... that was the path god chose for them and who are we to question it?

whoa!!!
Who said this?

reply to post by heyo


No CHRISTIAN said THAT!!! A real christian would kick ten colours of righteous crap out of anyone who did!!!

Contrary to popular secular belief, christians are human beings too who do not blindly follow a pastors or priests every whim. If a pastor/priest/rabbi was to say those words they would not be in posession of their heads for vey long.... There would be no turning of the other cheek!!! Except of course if you are are AOG who accepted convicted child sex offender Todd Bentley as G-ds "new move" in the nations

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Some bad apples have managed to get into the Church's bushells, but it always astounds me how loud the outcry is while a much greater problem is essentially ignored. Has media ignored sex abuse in school?

Absolutely unacceptable. That argument disgusts me. First of all, it's always made by Catholic clergy and members in a whiny response to this very criticism. If this is true, why aren't teachers constantly brought out by their peers and exposed? Why aren't kids and their parents lined up to sue? You can't tell me that the board of education has more money and resources to spend on suppression than the Catholic Church! Not to mention your statistics are invented...

Whenever someone brings up the terrible atrocities against children that the Catholic church has instigated, the Catholic church and its members inevitably respond with, "well, we might be raping children, but we don't rape any more children than the next organization, so pay no attention to us, go talk to them." How insincere is that? They couldn't care less about the victims, it's all about protecting the church.

How does lifelong celibacy breed pedophilia? why little boys? How does that develop?

I can understand the immense sexual urges.. but why not of the opposite sex of legal age? that would make more sense to me.. and if it reached the point where you could not control it anymore.. why not just step down? that would be the honorable move.

Further, I am interested in how anyone becomes a priest nowadays. I want to know what happens in their lives or childhoods that lead them to choose this path. I am convinced they are all nutters before they even become priests.



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