You know, I started a thread about militias and Martial Law a few days ago because of a dream I had. After posting the thread I started doing some reasearch. After a miniscule amount of research I began creating an entire website devoted to my findings and my theories. But as my research continued, I started seeing a pattern: Those that had attempted exposing what I was attempting to expose, credible or not, had met ends of the kind that I do not wish to meet with.

In short: I got scared. I'm still undecided on whether to publish my website on the world wide web, but there's no denying that investigating true conspiracies poses dangers.

How far is one willing to go to expose the truth? Are you willing to die to attempt to inform the public of a governmental or even an intergalactic conspiracy? These are questions I've been asking myself recently due to research I've been doing and information I've been coming upon. It seems that the more information I come upon, the more stories of people with information who are imprisoned, tortured, and/or killed I come upon also.

Who of us is safe? Who of us can find the truth and spread it to the general public without fear of repercussions? Does the long arm of Big Brother reach so far that not any of us can bring the truth to the people before we are extinguished?

Even as I write this I'm recalling the research I've uncovered and listening for the patter of combat boots outside my front door. What can I say without expecting a visit from the NSA, the FBI, the CIA, or some black op agency that we ATS'ers have only dreamed about?

Information is our greatest weapon, and it is also our biggest enemy. If we possess damning information we can destroy our enemies, but it also gives them an excuse to destroy us before we have a chance to open our mouths.

(P.S. Be advised: If I don't post anything in the next three days, I have been silenced by the conspirators and you will all know that I have been silenced by one of the many conspirators lurking in the shadows...)

[edit on 3/1/07 by an3rkist]

Seems to me, Mr Lazar thought and did something about his personal over-exposure (getting caught in the field w/friends taking vids of A51/S4 antigrav propulsion flights). He ran to TV Reporter Knapp. Knapp did some investigation (including a brief video tour with RL through LosAlamos), and decided to ask his producers to make it a local Newsworthy item, and did.

I feel, if your exposing sensitive #, be ready with your plan to publicise it. As I feel by publicizing the facts it may well extend or prolong the possibility of becoming essentially a 'non-person', at least in the short term. Perhap's look at it as how far across the NATIONAL SECURITY line will this info go?

Dallas

I also can't get in. I just get the locked error page. Is there another link to access the site?

Sorry for interupting the flow, upon completion of this thread I was able to access thru one of the links on the last page. Great site, thanks

[edit on 11-1-2007 by interestedalways]

I can't get to this website either.....

Hope a new link or something is posted..

Sorry for being a pest.

As per my profile, this is a subject I am intimately familiar with.
Please forgive my lack of too much detail. It is necessary.
While working as a network engineer for a company that was hired to provide a variety of Computer and Network services to a Government site, I discovered some illegal, dangerous and unethical activity. This was a VERY large, well known company. After reporting to my management, some very bizarre things began to happen. None of it was good for my career. After this, a co-worker then made the discovery as well. Her experience was even worse.
We experienced months of harassment, most of which, we were able to document.
To protect ourselves, we leaked some information, hoping an outside, or government party would get involved, (and basically rescue us). At first, that is what happened. We were asked to work with an investigatory task force, which we did, in return, we were promised protection and job security.
Make a long story short. We got all the evidence we needed. The evidence was brought before the company that had been contracted, (our employer). The next thing we knew, our company was purchasing new equipment for the site, providing extra man-power, and we were terminated.

And, that is only the beginning. We filed a Whistleblower lawsuit. The ensuing lawsuit, harassment, and destruction of our lives would go on for another 3 years. We were utterly destroyed. And, we had impeccable evidence. It didn't matter.

The stories, of what these companies and government agencies can do, is totally true. When threatened, there are no rules for them. And, it isn't like in the movies, where somebody swoops in to help you because you are "right". You are on your own, and nobody cares. And, it doesn't go away.

That, my friends, is the truth.

Originally posted by wadefrazier3
Part Two:

3. I am only writing. Those in power, although they truly hate freedom (yours and mine, not theirs), are less threatened by words than deeds, and when you begin doing something or advocating action, then they can begin moving to terminate the threat.

I am not sure if this was helpful, but it is also intended to help others who may want to speak out.

Good luck,

Wade


[edit on 10-2-2007 by wadefrazier3]

Would it be possible, or does a defendant in federal court have the opportunity or right to question his/her accuser?
After I sent thousands of emails to federal, state and local agencies, to which no one responded, my perspective of the situation became that of something I had to figure out how to make something horrible STOP myself.

I thought about it, came up with a potentially effective approach to accomplishing my goal and determined that I would need at least one more person. I sent that out to a handful of people and asked them to think about it and discuss it, one of them called me and I expressed a similar emotion and ideas as those in my written thoughts.
That's when Mr. Deputy came calling.

Is there any way to make the courts validate or dismiss information or "facts" that show "these two products are poisonous to humans, they contain no healthful benefits, and they have caused millions of Americans to suffer a painful and premature death"?
Do I the "accused" have the right to question the authority of my accuser, during a trial where I have been charged for thinking and talking ONCE about honestly trying to stop or interfere with their chemical production... since I can show that those two particular chemicals are placed in our food supply for no other reason than to kill US>
Would they be obligated or legally bound to investigate my "murder" claims before I am prosecuted in a Federal Court for thinking bad thoughts, or speaking of something that will hurt their flow of deadly chemicals?

It's not as if I would get any where taking the legal route, or fighting this war according to the "law" of this land. I want to charge those who control the "justice" in our system with a crime.

Is that possible?

Submersible2,

I am sorry for you. I really am. Especially if you are not some sort of crazy, playing a pretend game on here. Do not get upset by that statement. It's just that I have seen and heard a lot of kooky stuff.

Anyway, you would be better off if you are crazy, and making this up. I mean that.

If you are not nuts, you have a terrible situation on your hands.

I can tell you what I did to cover myself, and how I got the limited help that I found, but I don't know how I can do it without exposing myself to more trouble. The details of my case are specific enough, that somebody would be able to figure out who I was. And, after how my situation ended, I was told that I WOULD go to jail if I am ever heard from again. And, because of what was done to me, they can do it.

I will say this: It does not matter what YOU know. You are nobody. All that matters, is if somebody else is interested in your information. And, believe it or not, in a lot of cases, nobody is. And, once you start leaking information, that will be used against you as well. You will be classified as somebody that can't be trusted with delicate information, or a traitor, or a "Gold Digger".

I still see my name in the media once in a while, or on Blogs, usually as a "Sacrificial Lamb", or a "Hero". Great. Where was everybody when I was being destroyed?

I lost my family, my career, my credibility, my honor... the list goes on.

I was Black-Balled from my field. Funny thing is, nobody believed me, until I got my first job after the WB suit. I walked into a meeting at my new job, and saw somebody from the Task Force I was on before. 2 days later, I was fired with no explanation. My attorney sent them a letter with intent to sue. I won the ONLY case of the whole ordeal. They didn't even deny, fight, or anything. We just got a phone call after a week, stating they wanted to settle.

That's how blatant my situation was.

I will say that now, I have ALL of the same evidence I started with, as well as everything I accumulated during my case, even though it is against the law for me to expose it. I have it all, and I have many duplicates of my entire package, and I have it in many places, on and off the internet. And, my "former pals" know I do. And, enough people know about it, that if I got in more mystery trouble, or worse, people could give me a hand.

That is the only reason I have been given a breather.

If I could go back, there is NO WAY in hell I would do it again.

[edit on 2/11/2007 by Horrificus]

[edit on 2/11/2007 by Horrificus]

Agreed.

For a year, the company involved, tried to have my case dismissed. The evidence against them was so damning, they lost EVERY argument they attempted.

When it was declared that it was definitely going to court, they acted. That was all for me.

I know the Criminal Law system very well now. And, I HAVE thought of ending things many times over the last 4 years.

You people had better believe this! I am not writing this for attention, or for my health! I am not a crack pot. I have EVERYTHING documented. And, when the time is right, I will do something. Maybe. But, right now, I am going to need YEARS to lick my wounds! Years. And, take care of my family.

Do NOT screw around with anything like this, unless you have some money, a friend in the media, or a powerful family.

I'm sorry guys. I am just being honest. I wish I had something "cool" or "heroic" to say. But, I don't.

Wade,

I liked what you did on your site. I wish I could do something like that, but I can't.

What happened to me has turned me into a puppet of sorts. All I can do is hide, and keep quiet. I get contacted from the press from time to time, and the occasional kook. All I can tell them is, they have to do the research. They can use me anyway they want, and I will be honest. But, they have to do the footwork, and I can't help.

I would never want somebody else to be in my situation.

Horri

Hi, I am new to your forum, I joined because I was activley looking for a place to tell people about an experience I have had the last two years and who would believe what I am going to say to you.
I am a 50 year old woman, college degree, fairly street savvy, not the paranoid type, worked in the field of Neurology & Psychiatry the last 14 years and what has happened to me the last couple of years has freakin' blown my mind. You read about this stuff, you see it in movies but you never think it will happen to you.
Some people would call this a conspiracy, it probably is but the way I see it is how dirty our government has become, how they are oppressing and terrorizing us and if we try to fight them they will squash us......I was actually told this on a government run website. I think they are used to people taking what they dish out and if people like you and I don't start fighting back we are going to end up in slavery. I will start out by saying my case started as online harassment when I was going through a divorce three years ago when my ex hired a couple of boys to follow me around and harass me, it ended up spiraling out of control because I wasn't going to let a couple of punks dictate what I did online and I wasn't going to let them bully me, in other words........I stood my ground and fought back. As this harassment escalated, I realized there was more to it than I thought, then as it went on.........I started doing investigations, I couldn't believe what I uncovered. This has now become so important to me that I am pretty much willing to risk my life at this point because they have ruined me personally, professionally and financially so I feel like I have nothing to lose anymore. This is what happens when you push people to despair. I am going to publish a partial report of my findings, that I have sent to the FBI, FTC, DOJ, Medicare, Attorney Generals, Secret Service, the Army, several Congressmen & Senators. To this date I have been met with silence........nobody will tell me anything. I think this whole thing is really dirty, I think our Senators & Congressmen are dirtier than I originally thought, I don't see how they can allow this type of thing to happen. Any input you can give me will be greatly appreciated because I think I am finally making progress now........I think the Dept of Justice has finally stepped up to the plate and I also think POGO may be working behind the scenes. Thank God for government watchdog groups. I will be brief in my narrative because I am getting ready to take another legal step in my case by going to the District Attorney here in TX and if they do not do anything I am going to start posting my full report with names, agencies, everything on every website I can and will submit to every
news agency.

WEBSCAM OPERATION: I have a limited knowledge of the internet, but this appears to be some kind of huge operation whereby large blocks of IPs assigned to the military are used to set up entertainment, corporations, individual sites. Post counts/Hits translate into Big $$$ for owners/administrators who seek to deceive the general internet public by false registrations, false IP#'s, misleading information, they use aliases in an effort to hide their real life identities, Domains by Proxy offers protection so that you have to get a court order to find out who owns the website even if criminal activity is taking place. In my case, crimes were commissioned against me on websites hosted by GoDaddy/Domains by Proxy whom I notified, I complained to the owner Bob Parsons on his blog and he stated he is against the government invading the privacy of the sites he hosts. They do not follow basic disclosure practices nor do they have a code of standards about sharing personal information about the general internet public who may visit their websites. This is a malicious group of people who treat the internet as if it is the WildWildWest which is one of the domains Bob Pa