Originally posted by blupblup
Originally posted by mplsbookworm
You hate people who tar all things with the same brush? It is ignorant? What is tar? lol...Im ignorant? So now you are saying you hate me and I am supposed to even consider you a factor in a topic about raising kids.
Er....It's a figure of speech.
Of course i don't hate you, i don't even know you.
Your entire reply to me is now based on the (false) premise/understanding that i hate you.
Why would i be so ignorant.
When i said "I hate people who tar things with the same brush" i would have thought that you'd have the intelligence or understanding to know that i didn't mean i actually hate you?
It's like saying.... "It pisses me off when people...."
"It really annoys me when people"
I mean seriously??
You think i hate you...?
You can sit and tell me your second hand stories about music and how you disagree..blah blah blah. Kids could care less about the new underground hip hop album being released. They dont LIKE IT!!!! Do you not see who sells records? Our children LIKE THIS CRAP not your demo CD.
Of course i do.. but as i said, it's music and mainstream music in particular, that is the problem.
NOT just mainstream hip-hop.
And i don't have a demo CD... thanks for your concern though.
I get personally bothered with people like you on ATS. Not because you voice your opinion but because you say elementary crap like I hate people because they dont agree with me!
Awesome... but as i pointed out, if you could read without taking everything literally then perhaps you would have read my post in the right way.
Not as a hate-filled tirade at you... more a "why do people lump all one genre in together" type of thing.
I don't hate anyone to be honest and i do apologise if you actually thought i was saying that i literally hated you.
Although i don't see how you (or i) could make that assumption as we've never met??
Why even post. You hate people? I am ignorant? Sweety, you have NO idea who I am or what I know about music. Chat with me and ask me my connection to the industry then try and school me.
No and no.
I don't hate you (as I've pointed out several times) and i don't know whether you're ignorant because i don't know you?
See if you would have just responded to my post instead of deciding that i was saying that i hated you... perhaps we could have had a decent conversation.
Remind me not to say the following in future.
"I'm dying to see *insert movie here* soon.
"I'm starving...i need to go eat"
I wouldn't want you calling an ambulance you know?
I love you even if you hate me. I hope that you learn to understand the power of influence as well as the power of negativity.
I don't hate you.... jesus.
You based your entire post on a misunderstanding.
I love you too
Thanks. And maybe your right...attribute it to my insomnia. I just get frustrated sometimes. And I am sorry to seem that if I was judging you or any of the above. I just want to learn without hate. I want to read without evil sometimes. I understand not agreeing....but being mean is another topic.
Thanks hun...I really do love you too and I thank you for replying. I based my post on a PERSONAL experience. You may not understand but I am not here to make you understand. I post what I feel at a certain time. You are appreciated.
[edit on 27/11/09 by blupblup]
Originally posted by spirit777child
Originally posted by mplsbookworm
Originally posted by spirit777child
Yes, my posting does represent my view of hip hop, isnt that the purpose of individual posting? I state my opinion which I see undebatable. I am sorry, I have been there and done that with the music industry. I have heard demos and heard rap that is enlightening. But I am an artist myself and dont need to be musically motivated to build and understanding. Not my thing. I will always represent my feelings because that is what I am a master of...ME!
[edit on 11/27/09 by mplsbookworm]
A true artist respects the craft of other atrists, you obviously have no respect for the craft of hip hop given your one sided view!
You do not need to use hiphop to build an understanding but you can use a lot of conscious hiphop to help you understand many things, for hip hop/rap are life stories.....or others realities through words...if that does not motivate or move you then you are as good as dead.
- Tell me what you know about being a true artist? Are you an artist or are you a fan? I have no respect for the craft? You can not tell me about hip hop and the stories told. Do you wanna debate lyrics and artists and origins of the such? Please tell me yes and we can do so because I can quote MANY artists to heart. Jay Z "do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it" You skim sweety. You dont understand.
"I might go crazy on these niggas I dont give a mother#
Run up in a nigga house and shoot his grandmother up what!
What I dont give a mother# get cha baby kidnapped
And ya baby mother#ed
It's tha Carter 3 bitch better put ya supper up
Hollygrove I throw it up like im tryna lose my gut
# is up beat him up like a million uppercuts
Got a million duffeled up for the # of it
# get on my level you cant get on my level
You would need a spaceshuttle or a ladder thats forever
However im better if now than never
Dont you ever fix ya lips unless you bout to suck my dick" Lil Wayne
I respect and more so understand the point of view. I know what they are saying and why. Do I want my kids to listen to this crap...NO! And they dont, but their friends do!
I am an embarrassment to who? WOW. I love you hun. You need a hug. I virtually hug you because you have no idea the nature of my heart. I am a loving person and a good person. You are an embarrassment to all that care about our childrens future. You my dear, are acting deaf, dumb, and blind. You can call me names but you cant see me. You will never see me. You cant see me. I am a ATS ghost and your words although hateful, are hidden behind the mask of the internet and being tough over the internet is not a credit to your character. It is a front and I love you for it.
IMHO you are an embaressment to the human race.
Originally posted by purplemer
U r not for real, youre making one massivel general statement about a genre of music that gives people hope. Yep admit some of the mainstream stuff s rubbish but the same is true of all genres. If you want to see real music go undeground. Its poetry and if you dont like it just go and fnd somethng else to listen too.
It reflects what people, see and feel and share, it can be moving, political and most of all real..
Further have you ever listened to some of the hip hop instrumentals they are truley amzazng. there delicate tunes and full of emotion..
Tis each 4 there own in life bud and soz u show your ignoracne if dats all you think hip hop is
jst to get you started... listen 2 it contains the same msg that a lot of peeps send
and somethin a little more chill
Originally posted by Pharyax
Rap music promotes their listeners/fans to:
A. Speaking poorly
B. Behaving poorly
C. Looking poorly
It seems 'Hip-Hop' is ruining society's youth. I see it daily. It's a 'f-you' mindset.
ALL Rap is about: Money. Cars. 15 inch rims (uh.. ok, what is that REALLY going to do for you in life? idiots) and loose women. (Degrading women too).
Just bad.. In the 80's it was so much cleaner.