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posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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Neither of you have made logical points. I keep asking very logical questions, derived from very illogical posts (yours and hot sauce's) and NEITHER of you have come remotely close to supporting your premise. It would be one thing if I were an Obama or Oprah supporter but I'm not in support of Obama or Oprah and shake my head in disbelief at the utter stupidity that flows from your fingers. It's depressing, friend.

[edit on 25-11-2009 by EMPIRE]




posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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I believe I made my point quite concisely in my op.orpah only supported obama because he's black.My proof is she has been in the forefront of the public eye for 20+ years and only decided to support any candidate for any office when it was a black man running for president.What a coincidence.Prove I'm wrong.You sir are naive and infantile in your assessment. And what do I get for pointing out this RACISM to you(because you could never see it on your own) your response ............wait for it.....wait for it...........No your a racist. How original.This leads me to believe you can only see white on black racism,witch makes sense since you only have half a brain

and as for you Curious Skeptic,what are you curious or skeptical about other than members who have a differing opinion from you.Certainly not obama or the events going on around you



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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I'm open to whatever. But right now you're throwing a lot of apparently racist thoughts around. What makes this even more ridiculous is Oprah just had Palin (clearly the most not black you can get) on her show to fluff her, something the right-wing was screaming was a paramount and huge success. But now, less than a few weeks later... here we are with you claiming this is some kind of black conspiracy. I really don't have a lot of time or patience with racism because it's the stupidest most vile thing there is.



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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The classic B.S. card of "i can't think of anything better so ill just call him a racist"

Usually wins public arguments. But not intelligent discussion.

What's next? Are you going to say Obama is a black, closet queer, Nazi sympathizing, socialist pundit?

Better hurry then, thats a mouthful to say - and the recess bell is about to ring!


[edit on 25-11-2009 by Snarf]



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:11 PM
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The classic B.S. card of "i can't think of anything better so ill just call him a racist"


Seriously?I can think of a number of things I don't like about obama.Lucky for you I made threads about them here

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I could go on and none of them have to do with race
I am going to bed now so you can say what you will without repudiation.

[edit on 25-11-2009 by genius/idoit]



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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We have both already proven his point beyond a reasonable doubt but you gals seem to have a hard time processing the truth when it disagrees with your distorted world view.

What I have not seen is you ladies give any proof that he is wrong. Just a lot of bitching and complaining.

[edit on 25-11-2009 by HotSauce]



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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I believe I made my point quite concisely in my op.


No you didn’t.


orpah only supported obama because he's black.


Where is your proof? And previously you said you didn’t say that, now you’re saying she supported him because he was black! LOL! It doesn’t get better than this!


My proof is she has been in the forefront of the public eye for 20+ years and only decided to support any candidate for any office when it was a black man running for president.


Now R-E-A-D this S-L-O-W-L-Y. Obama was not the first “black” candidate to run for POTUS, and she did not support those previous candidates. That in itself flushes your claim that she decided to do it because he was black completely down the crapper.


What a coincidence.Prove I'm wrong.


No coincidence and I just proved you’re wrong.


You sir are naive and infantile in your assessment.


You, child, are not only naïve and infantile in your assessment, but you are severely deficient in the areas of reason, wit and cogency. Moreover, your need to post nonsensical post after post, without even realizing that the burden of proof resides with you, leads myself (and others) to form a very logical assessment about you, your motivations, and amongst other things, your hatred.


And what do I get for pointing out this RACISM to you(because you could never see it on your own) your response ............wait for it.....wait for it...........No your a racist.


The only thing you’ve pointed out to me is that you lack the ability to reason, think logically and provide evidence to support your premise. Moreover, you’ve shown me what you do provide is subterfuge, and even then it isn’t properly defined, remotely logical or presented in such a way that those of reasonable sanity would agree with you, or label it as anything but comedy, drivel and lies.

And when have I called you racist? I’ve done nothing here but attack your mental capacity and mental prowess. However, I have identified your hatred, but hatred and racism are not the same thing.


How original.


How original? When did it ever happen? You’re accusing me of something I CLEARLY did not do. Stop lying.


This leads me to believe you can only see white on black racism,witch makes sense since you only have half a brain


This insult was so lame it doesn’t deserve another look, but I seriously encourage you to stop lying.

[edit on 25-11-2009 by EMPIRE]



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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Did we mention that Klobuchar once body slammed Obama and Oprah in the same match? It's a good things those liberals fear Klobuchar so much, as no one has tested her since.

Klobuchar 2012!



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:50 PM
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Someones lying...but let us take a look at very logical questions, derived from highly illogical posts, that were completely ignored. Pay attention:


You said the proof is in her change of behavior, so what change of behavior are you referring to?


UNANSWERED.


Is it possible that her support for him could have been motivated by other things, specifically, money?


UNANSWERED.


...have you considered that where she is now is not where she was when Clinton ran?


UNANSWERED.


Moreover, you mentioned Jackson not having a chance of winning, but is it possible that she supported Obama because she felt he had a chance of winning?


UNANSWERED.


In regards to Keyes, what does being percieved as an uncle tom have anything to do with it?


UNANSWERED (you did nothing but attempt to answer a question with a question, and did not address my follow up to your question.)


Moreover, what is your take on the source you cited stating 90% of blacks tend to vote democrat?


UNANSWERED.

So where is this evidence you and the OP have provided? How have you proved your claims? NEITHER, and I repeat, NEITHER of you understand argument and debate, and partaking in this thread is simply showing ATS that you aren't the sharpest...



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 08:59 PM
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I didn't ignore your questions you must have overlooked my answers in your haste to try to discredit Genius. You have spent your time not refuting his claims but instead insulting his username and calling him a racist. Name one racist thing the man has said.

If you don't have anything to add to the discussion other than personal attacks maybe you should find another playground.

Go back and read my posts and you will see that I answered almost every question you have asked. You just don't like the answers.

Obama himself said that 30% of the blacks that weren't voting at all will begin voting when they can vote for a black man. That is racist of the voters he is describing and racist and arrogant of him to think that it is ok not to vote when there is not a black man running. I guess he figures why waste your time voting if you can only vote for a white person. Now how would people feel if the tables were turned and whites said why even vote if al there is to vote for is a bunch of black folk?

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posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
Did we mention that Klobuchar once body slammed Obama and Oprah in the same match? It's a good things those liberals fear Klobuchar so much, as no one has tested her since.

Klobuchar 2012!


Did I ever mention that Klobuchar is a huge fan and supporter of animal husbandry, and by the looks of Klobuchar's horse face her mother must have been too.

[edit on 25-11-2009 by HotSauce]



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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I didn't ignore your questions you must have overlooked my answers in your haste to try to discredit Genius.


No you NEVER answered the questions. I’m looking at the entire exchange between us now and you NEVER answered the questions. Stop LYING.


You have spent your time not refuting his claims but instead insulting his username and calling him a racist.


I’ve refuted every claim he has made. And I’ve never insulted his username. Insulted his so-called intelligence? Guilty as charged. Insulting his username? INNOCENT. And now I’ll refute the claim that I called him a racist. When did this occur? Where did I call him a racist?


Name one racist thing the man has said.


I don’t have the position that he is racist and have never implied it. Hateful? That is another topic, and anyone even pondering the possibility that racism and hate are the same thing are operating in the realm of foolishness and insanity.


If you don't have anything to add to the discussion other than personal attacks maybe you should find another playground.


I’ve been adding to the discussion and have only attacked the premise and intelligence of those who seek to pacify their lack of intelligence by posting madness.


Go back and read my posts and you will see that I answered almost every question you have asked. You just don't like the answers.


I’ve addressed this. You haven’t answered anything.


Obama himself said that 30% of the blacks that weren't voting at all will begin voting when they can vote for a black man. That is racist of the voters he is describing and racist and arrogant of him to think that it is ok not to vote when there is not a black man running. I guess he figures why waste your time voting if you can only vote for a white person. Now how would people feel if the tables were turned and whites said why even vote if al there is to vote for is a bunch of black folk?


Yet the link you, HOT SAUCE, posted states that 90% of blacks who vote vote democrat. Could it be Oprah was amongst the 90% who vote democrat?



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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Well, clearly Beck and Hannity are idiotist, did you see them supporting their own kind with the Palin interviews? Has this site been infested by the stench of rotting teabags, or what?! It's so sad, too, because all of this anger could be so cleansing if it was directed anywhere near the real powers that be. Yeah, a community organizer, as he is so often ridiculed is the threat. Give me a break!



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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Yet the link you, HOT SAUCE, posted states that 90% of blacks who vote vote democrat. Could it be Oprah was amongst the 90% who vote democrat?


Don't you think its kind of racist to say Oprah voted Demoratic just because she is black or even that it woud be racist of her to vote for Dems because she thinks you are not realy black if you vote for a Republican?

BUT, Who cares how the woman votes. It has no bearing on this discussion. The point is she only campaigned for one man and she did it because she wanted to see a black man as President. Like I have said before, I don't fau;t her. because if I were black I might do the same thing. But it is still racist.



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
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I'm of the opinion you're trolling. There is no way a sane person can behave in the fashion that you do.


Don't you think its kind of racist to say Oprah voted Demoratic just because she is black or even that it woud be racist of her to vote for Dems because she thinks you are not realy black if you vote for a Republican?


HotSauce, the link YOU posted stated that 90% of blacks vote democrat. I didn't post the link, but you did. Based on that, it is very logical, not racist, to ask if her support of Obama was tied to her being black and blacks (according to YOUR source) voting democrat. Friend, this is purely logical and not far fetched like the "she campaigned because he is black" lunacy you guys are posting.


BUT, Who cares how the woman votes. It has no bearing on this discussion.


LOL! PURE LUNACY ON ATS! You posted a link in hopes of proving your premise, but now that I'm showing you that something from your link may be applicable to Oprah and her support for Obama you say it has no bearing? How does how she vote not have a bearing on the discussion when your link said 90% of blacks vote democrat?

HotSauce how old are you? I need to know if I'm dealing with a young adult or a person who is old enough to know better. I'm not saying you have to like Oprah, or Obama, I DON'T, but what you're saying and what the OP is saying is purely illogical.


The point is she only campaigned for one man and she did it because she wanted to see a black man as President.


HotSuace, there were other black men who ran for president. You listed the bad traits for both of these men, and I asked you if maybe, just maybe, she supported Obama because he didn't have those traits and you never responded. So not only are you a liar, you're a selective reader, and where did I say the OP was a racist?


Like I have said before, I don't fau;t her. because if I were black I might do the same thing. But it is still racist.


You're using the term racist out of context.

Less typing. More reading.

[edit on 25-11-2009 by EMPIRE]



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 10:03 PM
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I wonder why so many Right-Wing"Americans" decided to stand up for government just now..when Obama was elected..

.. Let me use genius/idoit's Math ..

.. White Right-Wings + Anti-obamanism = Racist...


.. You had so many other democrat presidents to choose from.. why did you finally decided to revolt against this one...
(because he is half-black?)

.. I love this logic..




posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 10:03 PM
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This Thread, needs DELETED COMPLETELY! Its a stupid topic, no evidence, only based on quick assumption/conclusion. Threads like this need Completely removed from ATS. I may not like Oprah much, and my opinion on Obama is forever changing from bad to good to bad again, BUT THIS THREAD, needs off of ATS entirely, its clogging up the site. Just to think, tha instead of stupid threads like THIS, there could be real threads w/ evidence and important news etc.... Please MODs, for the love of God, delete this thread. I'm not insulting the guy who made the thread, but seriously, is THIS what ATS is coming to?



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 11:29 PM
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You know i'm starting to think the same thing. The OP obviously has no idea of what he's talking about and constantly uses the word "racist" way out of context. And it's also obvious that another poster in this thread is on the bandwagon, why is this thread continuing? It would be different if he/she was backing up their perspective but all we've seen is conjecture.

Uh-oh i just added to it...damn



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 11:34 PM
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All I can go on is Oprahs attitude towards him prior to to his running for president. I wouldn't call it racist, but there was clearly race favoritism there. If woman whose ideals I agreed with ran for president against a male whos ideals I agreed with, I may show some sex favoritism. That in know way means I am sexist or anti-male it just means I think it would be nice to have a woman for president for a change.



posted on Nov, 25 2009 @ 11:56 PM
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How can I be trolling. If either one of us is trolling it is you my friend. I agree with the OP so how in the hell can I be trolling?

I have backed up my arguments with evidence and you have contributed little to nothing other than repeating the same questions over and over, and accusing the OP and myself of God knows what.

You don't find some of Obama's comments a tad racist. Sayiing he tried to diminish his white side and stuff like that. What if I adopted a kid that was half black and half white and told it to deny its black side? You would be on me like white on rice.


[edit on 26-11-2009 by HotSauce]




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