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Topic started on 24-11-2009 @ 06:32 AM by Muckster
Why do so many Atheists hate Christianity?!?!

Notice i say Christianity and not religion... this is because, in my opinion, it seems to be Christianity that is normally singled out for attack when the debate on religion starts. In second place would probably come Islam, and then Judaism. But it does seem that non-believers have a special hatred of Christianity.

Why has it become so popular to insult and attack Christianity???

Now... i know the usual sarcastic responses to this so let’s just get them outta the way...

1) Because of all the millions of people killed in the name of Christianity


Well yes... that’s true... over the last 2000 years people have been killed “in the name of Christianity”
But because people have misused Christianity does not mean that Christianity as a religion is guilty. If anything then it is the people who misused Christian beliefs for their own gain who are guilty of murder.
Same can be said for Communism... I don’t believe that there is anything in communist ideology that justifies the mass murder of millions... However, Stalin did murder millions in communisms name. Do you blame Stalin on communism?

2) Because of the brainwashed followers belief in fairy tales and an old book


First point is... who is brainwashed? I made my decision to become a Christian on my own... no influence... no subjugation!! Why can’t I choose to follow the belief system of my choice without persecution and hatred?

Why are some people so arrogant as to think that their belief system is so superior to others that they have the right to attack and insult them...

I mentioned this in another post...



If you really think about it, everything is based on faith to some extent ...

What do you REALLY know as fact? I mean real facts, not what you read in books written buy others... not what you see on TV or what people tell you... But things you have researched and studied from scratch!!!

Even the greatest minds on earth base their theories and ideas on the back of work done by others before them.

People can sometimes be a little arrogant in the way they talk about their beliefs (Religious and non-religious alike)

I am a Christian and have often been mocked by non believers for simply hearing that I am religious.

"How can you believe all that junk" they say "you might as well believe in the tooth fairy"

They say it with such confidence that you would think they had existed since the dawn of time and witnessed the whole creation of the universe... When in reality they are simply choosing to believe a collection of second hand theories, which they don’t truly understand, from scientist they have never met.


3) Because you try to ram your beliefs down our throats


I think everybody, regardless of their beliefs, is guilty of this to a degree! Yes, people get irritated by Jehovah’s witness knocking at the door... but i also get frustrated by the constant bombardment of anti Christian sentiment in the media... The Simpsons, Southpark, Family guy, comedians, radio, film, books... it sometimes feels like it’s everywhere!!

So really... who is ramming beliefs (or non-beliefs) down people’s throats??

4) Because of the Catholic paedophile cover up


A disgusting and vile conspiracy involving the Catholic church... Granted. But again it is the people involved who are disgusting and vile. The Bible certainly does not advocate and sexual abuse of children and DOES warn of dire consequences for people that do. There are plenty of examples of Child abusers from all walks of life... Pagans, Atheists, Muslims, Hindus etc... The problem is a human defect problem... not religious!
Plus... not all Christians are catholic... but once again we are all tarred with the same brush.

5) Why does your God allow so many bad things to happen


Probably one of the most common questions. God has given man the gift of free will... all the things that happen in life are down to our choices... this is a subject that already has a thread of its own so I won’t go into it to deeply... i just want to say that it is all about faith and the fact that a better life awaits us.


I have had many good debates with Atheists, agnostics and people of other faiths, over the years... but just lately I have seen a much more aggressive approach by some of the Atheists. I am under no illusion, I realise that there are people who claim to be Christians but approach anyone who doesn’t believe with an equal amount of aggression... They are wrong!!
But i am not here to discuss those Christians. What i want to know is why all of Christianity is under attack by a group of people who are acting in a way that can only be described as aggressive and inflammatory? Even the book written by the distinguished academic, Richard Dawkins, is inflammatory
“The God Delusion” The very title is insulting!

What makes someone so arrogant as to confidently label billions of people as delusional because of their belief systems?

The title is counterproductive, if his true motive is to get an honest debate about the existence of God, because it only serves to offend and isolate the very people you should be trying to reach!!

So... why so much hatred??


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 07:05 AM by Muckster
reply to post by ZombieOctopus



So are you saying that because you are in the "minority group" you have the right to be rude, insulting and aggressive???

And that the people who are in the "majority group" should just put up with it??

That just doesn’t make sense to me! All i am asking for is that people be polite when discussing issues and that they show less hatred towards people of different beliefs.

I also wish to discover where the hatred comes from.


[edit on 24-11-2009 by Muckster]


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 07:10 AM by Muckster
reply to post by ZombieOctopus



I am afraid you seem to be making up your own definitions of extremists



Extremist

noun 1. a person who goes to extremes, esp. in political matters.
2. a supporter or advocate of extreme doctrines or practices.



Nothing mentioned there about killing people.

Would you not consider a KKK member to have extreme views? Would this not make him an extremist?? Even if he had not killed anyone!!


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 07:15 AM by DevolutionEvolvd
reply to post by Muckster



Why are some people so arrogant as to think that their belief system is so superior to others that they have the right to attack and insult them...


....Because they don't understand them. And, many times, they are driven by fear. Why are you so quick to label them arrogant?

-Dev


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 07:18 AM by ZombieOctopus
reply to post by Muckster



An extremist would take their view point to the absolute limit.

Unfortunately it seems, like many other words lately, American media has degraded the value of it. Now liking health care makes you a communist, being patriotic makes you a fascist, everyone with an opinion is an extremist, if you're liked by the people you're Hitler.

Holding or opposing a view point doesn't make you extreme in any way. Unless you want to tack on opinion, as in, you hold an extreme opinion concerning an issue. If you just say extremist, people conjure up certain imagery that doesn't correlate to real life.


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 07:18 AM by Muckster
reply to post by jinx880101





Such behavior must be expected from a site like this, people have views that are worlds apart. I do not agree that Atheists hate Christians, I believe they dislike what religion has done to humanity as a whole. Personally, I have seen some nasty behavior coming from so called 'Christians' towards Atheists or anyone that questions their beliefs. So I suppose it's a matter of tit for tat, what you reap is what you sow- I think it's called Karma.



I never said all Atheists hate Christians... Please forgive me if I gave that impression... i Believe it is only a minority of Atheists who hate Christians... I just want to know why!!

I have experienced this hatred first hand... I have had things said to me in the work place that are so bigoted, if they were used in the same way regarding sex or colour the person would lose their job.

But, for some reason, it is acceptable to poke fun at and abuse Christianity.

I am well aware that others also suffer from bigotry and abuse... but if I want to discuss those issues I will start another thread.

peace


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 07:23 AM by Muckster
reply to post by v01i0



great reply... No sinister undertones... just honesty

Star for you
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