Truth be told: Music on trial., page 1
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Topic started on 22-11-2009 @ 07:08 PM by SS.Invictus
I want to devote my self again onhatred, bigotry and disagreement

The more controversy, the more likely for a debate to spark and for creativity to step in.

Thus, this section will be dedicated in order to embraces our anti-liberal views and witness how far our views are good enough to be justified.

I will not write a papyrus on my personal "Whys" at the start until I find the right state of mind to do so.

When I was young, I used to be extremely rightwing, misogynist and misanthropic; all of these traits of personality had one thing in common; extreme; thus metal music.

It took me 3-4 years to get out of this psychotic, mentally disturbing and unbalanced of point of you, this abomination.

I was glorious to anniliate per se the culture of Metal, its own distinctive Media and its so called "evolutionary Messiahs".

In my moments of clarity, I would argue an Apocalypsis; revelation, I stopped following them, listening to them and worshiping them like Righteous Men.

No you are not.

You are like religion; living in the 70s and 80s and thinking that you are somewhat the last remainings of a samurai culture.

Wrong.

Your decay is so observered as the Global Warning Phenomenon.

No macho-men do for me and neither do for society.

To add on, in my list of total loathe are Punks.

Go you hardcore anarchists.

Give me more blood to to see.

Or give into me more self-judgement rather bitching, whining and crying over the broken society.

Who is head-bagging now eh?


reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:06 PM by Namaste
reply to post by Seiko



You beat me to it....

2nd...



reply posted on 22-11-2009 @ 08:09 PM by mr-lizard
Originally posted by SS.Invictus
I want to devote my self again onhatred, bigotry and disagreement

The more controversy, the more likely for a debate to spark and for creativity to step in.

Thus, this section will be dedicated in order to embraces our anti-liberal views and witness how far our views are good enough to be justified.

I will not write a papyrus on my personal "Whys" at the start until I find the right state of mind to do so.

When I was young, I used to be extremely rightwing, misogynist and misanthropic; all of these traits of personality had one thing in common; extreme; thus metal music.


How strange, i have metalhead friends who are leftwing, caring,sharing decent folk.


It took me 3-4 years to get out of this psychotic, mentally disturbing and unbalanced of point of you, this abomination.


So you admit it wasn't the music, it was YOUR point of view?


I was glorious to anniliate per se the culture of Metal, its own distinctive Media and its so called "evolutionary Messiahs".

In my moments of clarity, I would argue an Apocalypsis; revelation, I stopped following them, listening to them and worshiping them like Righteous Men.


Fair enough, i did exactly the same with happy hardcore (just what was i thinking? it's just poor mans rave music.)


No you are not.

You are like religion; living in the 70s and 80s and thinking that you are somewhat the last remainings of a samurai culture.


Are we addressing ALL metal heads here?


Wrong.


Wrong eh?


Your decay is so observered as the Global Warning Phenomenon.


Nothing is permanent, even stone turns to sand. What's your point?


No macho-men do for me and neither do for society.


Nor me, what are we on about again?


To add on, in my list of total loathe are Punks.


But punk music isn't metal.


Go you hardcore anarchists.


Not all punks are anarchists, i thought you were on about RIGHT wing?



Or give into me more self-judgement rather bitching, whining and crying over the broken society.


So you'd rather everyone did or said nothing?


Who is head-bagging now eh?


Only against my computer screen.

You sure showed me. What's the main point of this anyway? You went off metal heads because you think its a semi-religious trend, you hate punks and you generalise everyone's political leaning with an associative musical label?

Am i warm here?


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 11:15 AM by bad man incorporated
reply to post by Janky Red



For sure.
I guess there is no more progress.

I will still write songs from feelings.

[edit on 23-11-2009 by bad man incorporated]


reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 01:58 PM by Astyanax
reply to post by Janky Red


60 years ago would look like (chords)

F7b5 - Abmaj7 - G6/9 - Aminb9 - D7 - Dmin7...

A song 40 years ago

A - E - F# - D - A - E - D - C# - D - A- F#...

now its

E - E - E - B - A - G - E...

Actually, it isn't even chords for some of these yocks. It's powerchords: plain old doublestopping, usually a fifth apart. Two-note 'chords'.

And on top of that, the harmonic movement in the melody runs through all of five notes--a pentatonic scale.

Music for morons.

[edit on 11/12/09 by Astyanax]


reply posted on 14-12-2009 @ 11:30 PM by ivzm
reply to post by Astyanax



You and Janky red are obviously just looking for muswic in the wrong places, dig a little deeper and you'll see what I mean.


reply posted on 15-12-2009 @ 12:08 AM by mr-lizard
Originally posted by ivzm
reply to
post by Astyanax



You and Janky red are obviously just looking for muswic in the wrong places, dig a little deeper and you'll see what I mean.


I agree, but i can also understand why Astyanax and Janky Red can say this too. Basically 'forced music' with little creativity is dominating the airwaves with cloned bands and soulless, talentless drones filling the headlines and charts. It's easy to become disillusioned with contemporary music.

BUT as IVZM says, dig a little deeper. (Allow me to remove the topsoil at least).

Off the top of my head some of the more unusual or less known contemporary artists.... (of varying genre)

2007 - en.wikipedia.org...

www.youtube.com...

^^ This song in particular i find extremely relaxing (i suggest headphones).

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I'm assuming your ideas of electronic music is also invariably cliched (no offense) so how about this?

Ambient trance?

www.youtube.com...

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www.youtube.com... (ambient-jazz style 'sunshine recorder' by Boards of Canada)

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www.youtube.com... (venetian snares - Hajnal - SERIOUSLY listen to this one, it's a slow burner until 3:39) - Classical / Breaks

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www.youtube.com... (Burial -Distant lights)

^^ Who says sampling is bad? This is ambient dub-step at its best.

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Okay you just listened to some ambient dubstep, so how about we up the tempo (just so you can see the contrast in one particular genre) and take a look Borgore - saturday night (this will wake you up)

www.youtube.com...

Borgore is an extreme dubstep producer who has developed his own style called 'Gorestep' and just so happens to produce very dubby bass driven tunes but almost in a thrash guitar way (contrasting to the ambient dubby soundscaped i've just shown you) - and Borgore just so happens to drum for an Israeli death metal band too. So essentially this is dubstep but in a death metal stylee...

And then we'll expand our horizons with some psychedelic music

www.youtube.com... (shpongle)

www.youtube.com... (younger brother)

Let me know what you think, i've tried to be eclectic to a degree.
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