The Gold Bubble and Wiemar-style Trillion-percent Inflation., page 3
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reply posted on 26-11-2009 @ 06:15 PM by OBE1
Originally posted by Rockpuck
I really, really, really hope the Dollar does not fall further then it has (14 year low) ..



Hi RP. That's a 14 year low against the
Yen (USD/JPY). Bucky still has 3 handles to bust before reaching the 2008 March low - $USDX 70.69. After 74ish....nothin' but net to 72..





**Watch this coming Monday , or Tuesday for a renewed assault on the dollar...upward pressure on Gold.**


Originally posted by Rockpuck
Supply is the ONLY thing that can effect the true value of Gold. Both ways, more Gold it's worth less, less gold it's worth more.



Very little Gold is discarded , or wasted via industrial use. 99.999% of the Gold ever produced remains in one form or another...above ground...somewhere.

So available supply is always increasing , but year after year , supply continues to lag demand....


Based on data provided by the WGC, Gold Fields Mineral Services Ltd. (GFMS), and the US Geological Survey, the world gold supply is expected to be approximately 2,400 tonnes in 2009. Gold demand is expected to exceed supply by roughly 1032 metric tonnes (1 metric tonne is the equivalent of 32,150.7466 troy ounces), a large shortfall equal to 43% of the gold supply.

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Market supply comes from annual mine production (new supply) , and/or from annual sales of existing above ground supply...scrap sales , hedging , official sector sales/leasing , and when sentiment runs negative...investor dis-hoarding (bear market).....but supply is only half of the equation.

Demand driven market.

Increased investment demand spurred by loose , reckless monetary policies weighed against dwindling physical supply , and underpinned by official sector buying is becoming the primary price driver.

And it isn't just dollar Gold. Gold is at , or near record nominal price levels in most major currencies. The trade-weighted dollar has lost approx 10% YOY against the other majors , while the dollar price of gold has risen 56%...ie , the price of gold is gaining in terms of all major currencies.

Low interest rates in the money markets , both in the US and the Euro Zone = negative inflation adjusted returns on short-term investments....





More than simply an inflation play , in low interest rate environments , Gold functioning as currency becomes the investment of choice for major funds.

As evidenced....

The USD:Gold inverse remains the fundamental backbone of this bull market , but the relationship is no longer tick for tick...intra , nor at the close. In the past month the dollar had 9 up days , and Gold advanced on 7 of them. This divergence represents overwhelming demand from the physical market...regardless of dollar strength.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 02:21 AM by Rockpuck
reply to post by loam



Saudi and Iran would never, ever go to war.. And Yemen would hardly be the spark that did it. Iran would love to see Yemen cause problems for Saudi, because after Iraq fell Saudi and Iran filled the power vacuum. However, Saudi Arabia has NOT been pushing on the US to assist in destabilizing Iran .. all America would have to do is formalize a small portion of Kurdistan, and all the Northern oil fields in Iran would be in serious jeopardy, scoring one for Saudi. Simple fact is, I don't see Yemen as being as important as others tend to.

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So available supply is always increasing , but year after year , supply continues to lag demand....

Supply in commodities is, as I am sure you know, relevant only to consumer growth. If consumers outpace supply growth, supply of that commodity is down, thus prices go up. That is, imo, the only true value increase for any commodity. The rest is simply inflation/deflation.


And it isn't just dollar Gold. Gold is at , or near record nominal price levels in most major currencies


For some, I posted some graphs on page 2 of the US Dollar and the Yen comparing Gold pricing. If you follow the link it shows the relevant graphs for the Euro and GBP as well. All are different, as all follow the currency. And not all have the same dips and rises either, Japan for instance had a massive spike, and then completely leveled off. The Yen would have the strongest buying power per historical reference of any other currency as of right now, because of any other currency it has been strengthening the most (which is actually bad for Japan)


More than simply an inflation play , in low interest rate environments , Gold functioning as currency becomes the investment of choice for major funds.


But if a country's central bank lowers interest rates, this signals what?

Inflation.

You deteriorate the value of the currency .. which is what we see happening to the USD.

Thus Gold prices go up.

And the only reason Gold has not been following exactly the trend with the Dollar is simply because the economic environment welcomes fear, which in turn leads to a move towards more secure investments like Gold. More people buying Gold with a weaker dollar = Gold following both inflation AND supply and Demand, causing the prices to swing in a more volatile way.

Still comes down to Inflation/Deflation and Supply. IMO of course.


reply posted on 1-12-2009 @ 04:22 AM by OBE1

**Watch this coming Monday , or Tuesday for a renewed assault on the dollar...upward pressure on Gold.**

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Gold took off just after midnight NYT...and printed a new all time high (1199.88) around 4am. Looks like somebody made a panic phone call to JP Morgan/NY Cartel right at the London open. No rest for the wicked.

$USD

The usual top-callers , Moriarty, Nadler, Gartman were going full-bore this weekend. Just yesterday Moriarty wrote that recent rumors of a Commercial Signal Failure represented a "rock solid guaranteed no risk opportunity to short gold and silver".

Another great call Bob!

You really have to wonder if these so called "Gold experts" ever make any $.
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