Kevin Treadeau on Alex Jones: Number #1 enemy of NWO

sigh - another idiot with a set of books and products for sale - going on a NATIONALLY broadcast RADIO SHOW to claim that the evil government is " cencoring him "

FFS - think about that one for just one sec

Originally posted by Pocky

We are in the middle of a monstrous conspiracy, you've been lied to so bad, that you don't even know the half of it.

Here it is, in plain English - the lie is total - there is nothing that is not completely steeped in lies - nothing at all, nothing at all, is what it seems.

The entire western world is a total lie - all of it.

I can give a bit of a list I guess - but its pointless really - everything is a lie.

Lies;

Firstly, and obviously;

Education.
Media.
Culture.

Also;

Social values.
Sport.
Law.
Politics.
Medicine.
Science.
War.
Religion.
History.
Ancient history.
Oil.
Food.
Money.
Water.
Air.

That is not all, just a summary - but the list is not complete without;

YOU.


Those who do not know, it is worth while pondering that list - and trying to divine in what ways each of those things is a lie - mostly, they are total lies.

I have read a lot of Kevin's books. let me tell you what Kevin does. he takes information from known sources and uses it to put his books together. So the guy has a few faults.

Would those of you without Sin cast the first stone?

The point of this thread is about a mans 1st amendments rights. Not his books, or what he has done in the past.

No matter how bad you may think a person is.. we Cannot let this government start to take away a persons rights like this.. or the next guy.. YOU (a good citizen) may find your rights taken away as well. That is THE POINT!

Now, if Kevin is guilty of fraud, let him be tried for it in a court of law under due process just like YOU would expect to be tried.

All you people who are bashing Kevin only seek to derail this thread and sidestep and twist the issue.

Without Sin... I think Not!

Treadeau's words make intuative sense to me but I have no way of verifing. One thing I can be certain of is that the medical/pharmacutical complex was founded by a literal and historical son of snake oil salesman by the name of John D Rockefeller, and the multitude of drugs and treatments for our skyrocketing rate of chronic illness can be traced directly back to the monopoly health interest of the Rockerfeller clan who have effectively created a medical tyranny in the western world that seeks to sicken and prolong disease for profit and eugenical reasons.

This medical tyranny (which is to be topped off with the health care bill) is the leading cause of death in the US, and is far more of a threat to people than the perhaps dubious and perhaps brilliant books written by Treadeau. Regardless of his claims, his right to speak them should be protected by anyone who values freedom.

Kevin was no more than a paid endorser of the coral calcium. Someone created it and paid him to go on tv and make a big deal about it. And, it worked. I know because I worked for the company for several years.

Bottom line, if you have some cash (but not enough to get someone really well known like, say, Brad Pitt) and you want to sell mass quantities of something (whether that is a product or an idea) Kevin is your man. He's sorta well known and he'll say anything on tv for $. Kinda like the government. Lol.

Originally posted by highlyoriginal
I admit I don't know crap about Kevin Treadeau other than what I have seen in a few posts here. But regarding big pharma, they are giant frauds that get away with taking more lives than cigarettes and heart attacks combined take away in a year from the population at large.

We are hidden from the truths of so much knowledge, and when it comes to public health issues, big pharma takes no chances in losing $$$ so they do whatever it takes to keep the ball rolling whether it be holding back on life saving/changing medications, or falsely saying they have been working on a cure for such ailments such as HIV/AIDS, cancer etc. when really I think they have all the answers to saving the people who have these illnesses/diseases. I bet heart disease could be cleared up in no time if the time were put into the research... or in fact it may have already been done and is being used just by the elite. Who knows? Either way f#%k big pharma, they can kiss my a**. Period.

I still can't stop laughin as I know you are too. Well said.
The SIMPLE FACT is......ALL pharmacutical drugs are made from crude oil, that is a fact. If they were made with natural elements they would be called VITAMINS!!!!!! Get it? I thought not. Some will though.

Kevin Trudeau like others on TV, sad product really, TV sucks. I don't have one any longer, are frauds. Cures should be free. Advice should be free. If you are looking to profit in any way from writing a "book" then the advice is false. I laughed so hard at all the real estate info-mercials, I am almost wet myself. Are people REALLY that stupid? I guess so. You can have a wealth of knowledge but NEVER a wealth of money. What is money? It's a fraud.

Sometimes people are just so darn funny, laughter is supposed to be the best medicine, so keep it up folks.

Here's a simple cure for everything as ALL human bodies have the same basic genetic make-up, Vitamin C, Vitamin D and Colloidal Silver. These three things plus a regular diet of NON-red meat and raw vegetables will keep you healthy and disease free. It's that simple. Pasturization is a joke and is harmful. It coats the small intestine, with a scummy mucus so the nutrients in the food you digest can not be extracted, simple. Just think of the goo it leaves in your mouth when you drink a glass of it, Milk or pasturized Orange Juice. Nuf said.

How did people survive hundreds of years ago without vaccination and drugs? Just look at the royalty of Europe back then, eating off of Silver plates, food cooked in Silver pots, using Silverware and drinking from Silver Stiens. Where did the term "blue blood" come from? Royalty were exposed to so much silver there skin turned a slight bluish color, Argyria, not fatal or toxic in any way. But becasue they were different looking, they must be the chosen ones to rule, and we lost our values and freedom ever since. Get it, colloidal silver cures and keeps you healthy and disease free, it's that simple. I have used it for years as have many, many other people. I am 50 and feel 18, dirtbike, mountain bike and hurt myself often, no problem, no disease. Screw TV and snake oil salesmen, I sell nothing, live free and be well.

[edit on 22-11-2009 by daddio]

Originally posted by daddioThe SIMPLE FACT is......ALL pharmacutical drugs are made from crude oil, that is a fact. If they were made with natural elements they would be called VITAMINS!!!!!! Get it? I thought not. Some will though.

your " simple fact " is neither simple , nor factual

as examples :

insulin
dia morphine
coeidine phosphate
asprin


none of the above are made from crude oil - which instantly invalidates your claim of "all drugs "

infact i will go further and demand thay you provide a list of drugs that are made from crude oil as you claim

If I were to make a list of all the products modern society depends on which are derived from hydrocarbons it would end up the size of a novel.

Try feeding the population of the World without fertilizers, for example.

The wax that ends up binding pills together is not a danger to you and the chemicals which are used to synthesize medicine are not any more dangerous to you just because they started off as more complex chemicals derived from hydrocarbons.

Yet again the alternative health movement has to use people's ignorance of complex processes to try and scare them.

Market products which can be proven in scientific studies to work better and the customers will follow. It's quite obvious to me that people care about results and spend very little time thinking about where those products come from or how they are made.

They like packaging and marketing. Use false claims in that marketing and the FDA will come after you, big or small. (Didn't cheerios or cornflakes recently have to remove certain health benefit claims from their products?)

There are holistic medicines that work and work quite well. More people than ever are aware of this and are turning to alternatives. My local grocery stores have huge aisles dedicated to natural / organic products, including medicines.

Persecuted? I don't think so.

Kevin is being investigated for one reason. People who bought the products he sells were not satisfied and filed complaints. Since it takes a huge number of complaints for the government to get off its ass and go after someone I would surmise he has ripped off quite a few people.


[edit on 22-11-2009 by ecoparity]

reply to post by Pocky


many blessings
awesome

LOVE

reply to post by ignorant_ape



I am not going to get into a pissing match here, Insulin is not a drug, my late wife was Diabetic so I know all about that.

Needless to say, yes the packaging, pill casing, is made from crude oil and most of the synthetic ingredients are also. Drugs CAN NOT and DO NOT cure, they suppress the symptoms and the immune system. You "feel" better but it is not better for you.

Nuf said.

reply to post by Vitchilo


Hi

1. ‘Natural cures’ don’t work. If they did we’d have had longer life spans in preceding centuries

2. There’s nothing to stop the ‘natural cures’ people doing clinical trials

3. People who deny proven treatments to sick children SHOULD go to jail. And why not? A civilized society should demand nothing less. There’s nothing to stop parents giving unproven treatments whilst they give the proven ones (see 2)

4. A definition of ‘natural’ within the context of ‘natural cure’ might be helpful. For instance, many Big Pharma products are ‘natural’ or derived from natural products (morphine, aspirin, caffeine, taxotere, digitalis, penicillin etc, etc, etc)

5. Why do I think marijuana is still illegal? Er, I think it’s because of the alcohol industry/lobby….

7. You say Big Pharma is disgusting. I say that Big Pharma is a business driven entirely by the profit principle. And I agree that, often, it has a black heart devoid of anything except the worship and patronage of Mammon. Yet every time anyone suggests taking certain aspects of healthcare out of commercial enterprise and into a non-profit area (eg: vaccine production, generic drug production and distribution, access to healthcare delivery etc, etc) everyone starts dancing the Fandango – as if on cue - and yelling about ‘socialism’ when they don’t even appear to know what the word means

8. FDA: for sure, Bush and his Big Pharma mates ground this institution down, but hopefully – for you guys - Obama will build it up again. If you want to know just one thing about what the FDA did for America google Frances Oldham Kelsey

reply to post by Seiko


I'm sorry, but if he has sold as many books as "Harry Potter," he can afford to put some money in to these studies. I often wonder why he doesn't come up with some really great proof for his infomercials.

A lot of his stuff seems like common sense and a little bit of research. I find it hard to get to excited about what he says. Then again I only know what I've seen on TV.

This is quite an interesting subject

reply to post by Namron7


Movig Pharma in to the nonn profit sector does notmake it better. Blue Cross and Blue Shield is non profit. Yet BCBS of NC pays $80 an hour to have the windows on one building caulked. (Exterior windows that must be reached using specialized safety equipment.) They buy property and leave it sitting just to shed "excess" money.

I have known about a dozen people that run non profits. Most of them are spending less than 20% on the actual reported purpose of their organization. Non profit work can be big money and is just as corrupt as wall street firms.

reply to post by MikeNice81


Yes. You’re right. Non-profit does not necessarily mean Snow White. I’ve worked for a non-profit healthcare charity in the past and I could tell you stories that easily match your window caulking experiences. In that job there were seriously times when I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

My point – probably expressed too extravagantly – is that Big Pharma is motivated primarily by profit. There’s some good in that: it’s good for the economy, it’s good for jobs, it’s good for product quality, it’s good for science/education etc. Profit-motivated organizations are also generally more competent and efficient than non-profit organizations. But there’s quite a lot of temptation too: fraud, drug pricing, lack of transparency (tax), unhealthy relationship with medical profession, pulling wool over the eyes of the FDA etc, etc. A good part of the reason we’re up s**t creek with MRSA, TB and other superbugs is because Big Pharma spent all its time and resources on the profitable stuff rather than the important stuff.

I certainly wouldn’t advocate moving all of Big Pharma to the non-profit sector or the state. I think that would be a disaster (what medicine ever came out of the Soviet Union?). But I might consider moving SOME of it. Eg I might be able to make a case for vaccines and certain generic drugs, and I’d certainly take a good look at the ‘essential’ medicines list (designated by the WHO) in terms of third world pricing.

How about moving ‘natural cures’ to the non-profit side unless they can clinically prove that they work? Now there’s an idea Mr Treadeau wouldn’t thank me for.

reply to post by daddio

The SIMPLE FACT is......ALL pharmacutical drugs are made from crude oil, that is a fact. If they were made with natural elements they would be called VITAMINS!!!!!!

Ape covered the first of your misconceptions.

The second misconception is that pharmaceutical drugs are not natural. Unless, of course, you can provide evidence of them being imaginary or supernatural. What you really mean by "natural" is "from nature, unaltered by man". But mankind is a creature which came from nature - and so by extension nothing we can do can ever be unnatural. Unprecedented, perhaps, but not unnatural. Pharmaceuticals and spider silk & birds nests have more in common than you're willing to admit.

And of course, being from nature and unaltered by the hands of man is not an indication of how beneficial for your health something is. I'd rather swallow a piece of plastic than I would a teaspoon of cobra venom, or a slug of uranium.

Also, I think you mean "compounds", not elements. Elements were created either shortly after the Big Bang or from the supernova anvils of exploding stars. They were a part of the Earth long before humans arrived on the scene. We just arrange them in purposefully in varying configurations.


By the way, we all know Potassium is a necessary vitamin for optimal health - which promotes heart & muscle health, as benefits for the brain. When you take a Potassium vitamin, you're eating a man-made compound created to stabilize the Potassium element so that it can be absorbed safely by your body.

Here's what pure "all natural" Potassium does upon contact with water.



If you want to take a vitamin pill of that - then be my guest.

reply to post by Lasheic


You people need to try Dr. Schulze this guy is the best. I was trying quite a few vitamins for a while and now I get why I probably wasn't feeling a difference. It seems that according to herbologist the vitamins in them are frickin dead. A lot of pharmaceutical companies have jumped into the business of making vitamins and they contain a bunch of filler and are so devoid of real live nutrient that you're better off taking real fruits and vegetables to get what you need.

I always wondered why my Centrum multivitamin looked so much like a pharmaceutical pill.

You people should check this guy out.




Well, I recently got his Superfoodplus and damn, today is a good day.

reply to post by daddio


You said: ‘Get it, colloidal silver cures and keeps you healthy and disease free, it's that simple.’

Well, thanks for making it simple for me.

I note that colloidal silver simplified this guy's life too. i.e. Now he has two simple career choices: extra on Star Trek, or Papa Smurf lookalike at kids’ parties.

Originally posted by mmiichael

Natural cures can be good for a lot of ailments.

But Kevin Trudeau is a fraud and a criminal.

en.wikipedia.org...

In 1990, Trudeau posed as a doctor in order to deposit $80,000 in false checks, and in 1991 he pleaded guilty to larceny. Trudeau had used the credit cards of eleven customers of a mega memory product to fraudulently charge approximately $122,735. He spent two years in federal prison because of this conviction

And george bush sent troops into Iraq for nothing...

Who'se more of a criminal.

His were monetary crimes.. no one was hurt.
I believe his book, cause Ive seen it work.

and it's usually right.


A money grabber? omggg come on!! Everyone is. lol
He's a pitch man, for gosh sakes

look at Vince PRice the sham wow guy. made a mint.

reply to post by Namron7


there are different kinds of colloidal silver, they don't all make you turn blue. There is a kind that comes in water with a very tiny nanoparticle size of it. Like Oxysilver and it won't turn you blue.

That guy is an extreme case of somebody who takes it beyond excess.www.oxysilver.com...