sigh - another idiot with a set of books and products for sale - going on a NATIONALLY broadcast RADIO SHOW to claim that the evil government is " cencoring him "

FFS - think about that one for just one sec

Originally posted by Pocky

We are in the middle of a monstrous conspiracy, you've been lied to so bad, that you don't even know the half of it.

Here it is, in plain English - the lie is total - there is nothing that is not completely steeped in lies - nothing at all, nothing at all, is what it seems.

The entire western world is a total lie - all of it.

I can give a bit of a list I guess - but its pointless really - everything is a lie.

Lies;

Firstly, and obviously;

Education.
Media.
Culture.

Also;

Social values.
Sport.
Law.
Politics.
Medicine.
Science.
War.
Religion.
History.
Ancient history.
Oil.
Food.
Money.
Water.
Air.

That is not all, just a summary - but the list is not complete without;

YOU.


Those who do not know, it is worth while pondering that list - and trying to divine in what ways each of those things is a lie - mostly, they are total lies.

I have read a lot of Kevin's books. let me tell you what Kevin does. he takes information from known sources and uses it to put his books together. So the guy has a few faults.

Would those of you without Sin cast the first stone?

The point of this thread is about a mans 1st amendments rights. Not his books, or what he has done in the past.

No matter how bad you may think a person is.. we Cannot let this government start to take away a persons rights like this.. or the next guy.. YOU (a good citizen) may find your rights taken away as well. That is THE POINT!

Now, if Kevin is guilty of fraud, let him be tried for it in a court of law under due process just like YOU would expect to be tried.

All you people who are bashing Kevin only seek to derail this thread and sidestep and twist the issue.

Without Sin... I think Not!

Treadeau's words make intuative sense to me but I have no way of verifing. One thing I can be certain of is that the medical/pharmacutical complex was founded by a literal and historical son of snake oil salesman by the name of John D Rockefeller, and the multitude of drugs and treatments for our skyrocketing rate of chronic illness can be traced directly back to the monopoly health interest of the Rockerfeller clan who have effectively created a medical tyranny in the western world that seeks to sicken and prolong disease for profit and eugenical reasons.

This medical tyranny (which is to be topped off with the health care bill) is the leading cause of death in the US, and is far more of a threat to people than the perhaps dubious and perhaps brilliant books written by Treadeau. Regardless of his claims, his right to speak them should be protected by anyone who values freedom.

Kevin was no more than a paid endorser of the coral calcium. Someone created it and paid him to go on tv and make a big deal about it. And, it worked. I know because I worked for the company for several years.

Bottom line, if you have some cash (but not enough to get someone really well known like, say, Brad Pitt) and you want to sell mass quantities of something (whether that is a product or an idea) Kevin is your man. He's sorta well known and he'll say anything on tv for $. Kinda like the government. Lol.

Originally posted by highlyoriginal
I admit I don't know crap about Kevin Treadeau other than what I have seen in a few posts here. But regarding big pharma, they are giant frauds that get away with taking more lives than cigarettes and heart attacks combined take away in a year from the population at large.

We are hidden from the truths of so much knowledge, and when it comes to public health issues, big pharma takes no chances in losing $$$ so they do whatever it takes to keep the ball rolling whether it be holding back on life saving/changing medications, or falsely saying they have been working on a cure for such ailments such as HIV/AIDS, cancer etc. when really I think they have all the answers to saving the people who have these illnesses/diseases. I bet heart disease could be cleared up in no time if the time were put into the research... or in fact it may have already been done and is being used just by the elite. Who knows? Either way f#%k big pharma, they can kiss my a**. Period.

I still can't stop laughin as I know you are too. Well said.
The SIMPLE FACT is......ALL pharmacutical drugs are made from crude oil, that is a fact. If they were made with natural elements they would be called VITAMINS!!!!!! Get it? I thought not. Some will though.

Kevin Trudeau like others on TV, sad product really, TV sucks. I don't have one any longer, are frauds. Cures should be free. Advice should be free. If you are looking to profit in any way from writing a "book" then the advice is false. I laughed so hard at all the real estate info-mercials, I am almost wet myself. Are people REALLY that stupid? I guess so. You can have a wealth of knowledge but NEVER a wealth of money. What is money? It's a fraud.

Sometimes people are just so darn funny, laughter is supposed to be the best medicine, so keep it up folks.

Here's a simple cure for everything as ALL human bodies have the same basic genetic make-up, Vitamin C, Vitamin D and Colloidal Silver. These three things plus a regular diet of NON-red meat and raw vegetables will keep you healthy and disease free. It's that simple. Pasturization is a joke and is harmful. It coats the small intestine, with a scummy mucus so the nutrients in the food you digest can not be extracted, simple. Just think of the goo it leaves in your mouth when you drink a glass of it, Milk or pasturized Orange Juice. Nuf said.

How did people survive hundreds of years ago without vaccination and drugs? Just look at the royalty of Europe back then, eating off of Silver plates, food cooked in Silver pots, using Silverware and drinking from Silver Stiens. Where did the term "blue blood" come from? Royalty were exposed to so much silver there skin turned a slight bluish color, Argyria, not fatal or toxic in any way. But becasue they were different looking, they must be the chosen ones to rule, and we lost our values and freedom ever since. Get it, colloidal silver cures and keeps you healthy and disease free, it's that simple. I have used it for years as have many, many other people. I am 50 and feel 18, dirtbike, mountain bike and hurt myself often, no problem, no disease. Screw TV and snake oil salesmen, I sell nothing, live free and be well.

[edit on 22-11-2009 by daddio]

Originally posted by daddioThe SIMPLE FACT is......ALL pharmacutical drugs are made from crude oil, that is a fact. If they were made with natural elements they would be called VITAMINS!!!!!! Get it? I thought not. Some will though.

your " simple fact " is neither simple , nor factual

as examples :

insulin
dia morphine
coeidine phosphate
asprin


none of the above are made from crude oil - which instantly invalidates your claim of "all drugs "

infact i will go further and demand thay you provide a list of drugs that are made from crude oil as you claim

If I were to make a list of all the products modern society depends on which are derived from hydrocarbons it would end up the size of a novel.

Try feeding the population of the World without fertilizers, for example.

The wax that ends up binding pills together is not a danger to you and the chemicals which are used to synthesize medicine are not any more dangerous to you just because they started off as more complex chemicals derived from hydrocarbons.

Yet again the alternative health movement has to use people's ignorance of complex processes to try and scare them.

Market products which can be proven in scientific studies to work better and the customers will follow. It's quite obvious to me that people care about results and spend very little time thinking about where those products come from or how they are made.

They like packaging and marketing. Use false claims in that marketing and the FDA will come after you, big or small. (Didn't cheerios or cornflakes recently have to remove certain health benefit claims from their products?)

There are holistic medicines that work and work quite well. More people than ever are aware of this and are turning to alternatives. My local grocery stores have huge aisles dedicated to natural / organic products, including medicines.

Persecuted? I don't think so.

Kevin is being investigated for one reason. People who bought the products he sells were not satisfied and filed complaints. Since it takes a huge number of complaints for the government to get off its ass and go after someone I would surmise he has ripped off quite a few people.


[edit on 22-11-2009 by ecoparity]

This is quite an interesting subject