Originally posted by wantsome
I do quite a bit of fishing. After I filet a fish and remove the meat thier still breathing. I've put them back in the water to see what happens and they can live up to an hour afterwards. Sometimes if they don't stop flopping I jab a knife threw thier head.

Recenly I discoverd that if I cut thier throat and bleeed them out I don't get any blood in the meat. Usualy takes about 10 minutes for them to die.

Such is the circle of life in the animal kingdom. Humans arent the only animals that kill to eat.

Are you having a laugh? Kinda sounds a bit cruel to me...or a bit Dahmer? When I am fishing, I use a trusty old priest my grandad gave me.

Not meaning that as an insult...but kind of find it strange that this feels almost like an experiment you feel you have the 'right' to carry out due to something not being human.

Have you done this with mammals?

Interesting point of view and experience...but very far removed from my frame of reference.

Thanks for sharing.

Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
It is just a freaking fish people. One of the lowest forms of the food chain. It is not even self aware.

After having fish tanks and saltwater reef tanks a good portion of my life, I totally disagree with this statement. So mush I gave up my favorite past time of fishing. After watching and interacting with these creatures for a long time I have long respected at actually how intelligent these creatures are, especially saltwater fishes.

On the flip side, after reading some of these comment in this thread and after reading the article, I can't say the same about the human species.

Sorry double post.

[edit on 18-11-2009 by Desired username:]

It's very sad that anybody would want to get entertainment, from another living being, suffering. There are so many worthy and beautiful things on this Planet to take enjoyment in. Whoever laughed in the Vid I hope they choke on their fishbone.

[edit on 18-11-2009 by Circle]

From what I can gather from responses, there seems to be less difference in attitudes in respect to animal "cruelty" between the east and the west.

The responses are ranging from (these are paraphrased, so as not to single people out and create unnecessary conflict),

"I dont care, it's not my country"

to

"I dont care, they are bottom of the food chain, they take what they get"

to

"We bear some responsibility for ethical animal treatment - even though we eat them in the end"

Anyone who has worked with animals attests to how smart they can be.
It would seem that the majority of western people posting here see animals as 'packets of flesh', ready to be carved up...

Has our westernised system of meat 'production', and the fact that we can buy meat without thinking about where it comes from, completely removed any appreciation of the responsibility we bear for enlightened animal husbandry from western society?

I am an ardent meat eater - but welfare is incredibly important to me. Am I a minority?

To me as long as the animals are treated somewhat well then there is no problem. Often animal groups take things way to far. When it's time to slaughter it is what it is. It's not pretty and it isn't supposed to be. You're killing something. Animals have it pretty good in the west as compared to other countries. Things like this poor fish are another story.

While the nervous system of a fish isn't very advanced and it probably didn't feel very much pain it is still suffering needlessly. I was taught that killing animals for food is necessary and believe it to be so, but you do it in the most humane way possible. So, I agree what has happened to this particular fish is some pretty sick stuff.

Thankfully as another poster pointed out the local government is going to attempt to have this menu item removed (though this is the far East and doubtful the government there really gives a hoot) and let's hope it is true. Eat meat my friends, eat meat. I love it and would never give meat up, but when I go hunting or fishing I don't needlessly put the animals in pain. It is my duty to see that they throw off their mortal coil in the most painless way possible.

Maybe it's time for another Bill.
All animals need to be admistered an anesthetic before killing.
Are you willing to pay the price?

[edit on 18-11-2009 by ashamedtobehuman]

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I'm a Hedonist.
Pain is ALWAYS wrong unless the recipient enjoys it(in which case they're freaks but to each their own)
I have no problems killing to eat,I'm closer to being a straight out carnivore than omnivore.
but you try to kill painlessly,only amateurs make their victims suffer
I bet the murder rates would drop off pretty quickly.
YOU KILLED IT,YOU EAT IT!

cruelty is wrong,pain is wrong
pleasure is right.