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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:14 AM by mellisamouse
reply to post by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest



Yes! Exactly, not to mention the vitamins and drug stores and knowlege of natural remedies, HEATING even if your too sick to chop wood and start a fire......SOOOOOOO much contrast!

Forgot to mention "sanitation" as well......

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reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:36 AM by mellisamouse
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Speak for yourself. I worked in childcare for the last 20 years, travelled most of the world...had everything there is to have. Grow a ton of my own veggies, and don't buy junk, so all of those out there like MOI, will be fine.....hate to rain on the doom parade.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 12:46 PM by unityemissions
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It sounds to me like your feelings override your reasoning, and you have chosen to live in la-la land.

What's the saying? The ones who think they are free are the most enslaved...


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 01:49 PM by mellisamouse
Well, something I must point out, like with so many other reved up hoaxes.....

This huge "scare" has been going on sice April....

Do you know 4-5 close people already whom have DIED of this so-called "pandemic"????

Do you even know 4-5 people close to you whom have had labrotory CONFIRMED cases????

I highly doubt it.

I don't even know a friend, of a friend, of a friend.....

We have had 2 rounds of it up here already, "confimed", and yes the first time around it felt like you were run over by a steam roller, and the second round, there was something weird in the muscles that let you know you better darn well STAY hydrated.....but they only people "dying" in the whole country, were people alreay on their death beds, and a few people acting like they were in the olympics insteadof resting or mellowing out for a few days, one had asthma, and they don't even have proof it was H1N1...

I really do think people take every worst case scenario rumour, and "run with it" all in a panic, which is what allows the governments to play of thier fears and impose the tyranical crap they are getting away with in the first place.

If everyone would stop running into panic mode, every time some one announced, that Bobs uncles, cousins, great great grandmother "died" of some strange new "bug' at the age of 99, and some guy who had asthma MIGHT hae died of it too... "but it must be for SURE until proven otherwise", mabey so many people wouldn't have their rights being taken away.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 02:02 PM by marg6043
reply to post by mellisamouse



Yes you are right, we have develop more antibodies through the decades thanks to our mothers.

We also have a better health care system and better sanitation practices.

Anyway the swine flu that we got today is not different than the breakout of 76.

Only the media and those involved in profiting from pandemic has been doing a great job scaring the latest generation that was not around back in the 70s.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 03:10 PM by ruxalind

University of California, Davis, researchers studying the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus, formerly referred to as “swine flu,” have identified a group of immunologically important sites on the virus that are also present in seasonal flu viruses that have been circulating for years.
These molecular sites appear to result in some level of immunity to the new virus in people who were exposed to the earlier influenza viruses. More than a dozen structural sites, or epitopes, in the virus may explain why many people over the age of 60, who were likely exposed to similar viruses earlier in life, carry antibodies or other type of immunity against the new virus, immune responses that could be attributed to earlier flu exposure and vaccinations. [..] “These findings indicate that human populations may have some level of existing immunity to the pandemic H1N1 influenza and may explain why the 2009 H1N1-related symptoms have been generally mild,” Cardona said. “Our hypothesis, based on the application of data collected by other researchers, suggests that cell-mediated immunity, as opposed to antibody-mediated immunity, may play a key role in lowering the disease-causing ability, or pathogenicity, of the 2009 H1N1 influenza,” Xing added. He noted that immune responses based on production of specific cells, known as cytotoxic T-cells, have been largely neglected in evaluating the efficacy of flu vaccinations. In this type of immune response, the T-cells and the antiviral chemicals that they secrete attack the invading viruses. [..] Further study, however, revealed that the virus actually included genes from viruses found in birds and humans, as well as pigs. At first, this H1N1 influenza virus apparently caused a high number of deaths among patients in Mexico and among people with certain pre-existing medical conditions. But as it has progressed to become a pandemic or geographically widespread virus, H1N1 has caused relatively mild symptoms and few deaths. [..] The UC Davis research To probe this phenomenon, the UC Davis researchers surveyed data from earlier studies of epitopes known to exist on different strains of seasonal influenza A. They found that these epitopes, present in other seasonal H1N1 influenza strains around the world and capable of triggering an immune response, were also present in the strains of H1N1 2009 that were found in California, Texas and New York. Interestingly, although previous H1N1 viruses seem to have produced a protective antibody response in exposed people, these antibodies largely did not provide cross-protection for individuals infected with the H1N1 2009 strain of influenza. The researchers theorize that, rather than stimulating protective antibodies, the epitopes of the new H1N1 2009 virus produced an immune response by triggering production of cytotoxic T-cells, which boost a person’s immune defenses by killing infected cells and attacking the invading viruses. [..]
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