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Originally posted by Gordi The Drummer
Originally posted by dreamseeker
"...If you look at this link, www.cdc.gov... you will 530 out of 2,916 are lab confirmed as flu. You will see how confusing the whole mess is.l
This is why I am looking to the Ukrarine because in the USA we may have a similair situation that they are hiding from us. It may not be as extreme but a 500 spike in deaths,(in a week), is need to be concerned."
My understanding of the figures that you linked to, is that the figure of 530 deaths, is a cumulative total, over an eight week period from August 30th to October 24th.
We have an even more confusing situation in the UK, where the "official" swine flu infection rates are NOT based on actual Lab reults, but on "expert" predictions!
In terms of "confirmed" swine flu deaths, since June there have been 137 confirmed H1N1 swine flu deaths in the UK (with a population of 61.4 million!)
Link to NHS Website
I'll repeat that - 137 deaths since June, from a population of 61,400,000.
I don't think I'll be hitting the panic button just yet.
Originally posted by Luppakorva
reply to post by asen_y2k
Sorry to hear that ...could you give us good sit rep and sum it up, what is going on there, how's the situation, what is the mood of the people, is it all just speculation and rumors (they tend to get big wings in situations like that and they do that fast). Army in the street, police restricting movements, hospitals flooding up ? ..you know, anything what would tell us the big picture.
Thanks ..and take care!
Originally posted by asen_y2k
People out here are going crazy, especially us foreigners who live in Ukraine. ALL foreign European students have left. The rest of the Asians are planning on leaving and so am I. Especially after the news that the Flu has reached our hostel and people are sick with it. God help us...
irina 2009-10-31 11:53:28
It does look there is some kind of pneumonic plague here, but officials say "dont spread the rumors, its only a swine flu"
I imagine what panic would have emerged if they said "its a pneumonic plague, guys"
Doctors already said such pneumonia that kills people in 3 days is not a flu complication, its something they had never seen before
So far, nobody is talking emergency declaration
Although government already ordered quarantines, prohibited mass gatherings (so if u want to protest smth - u cant), and restricted travelling "without special need" between the regions to curb the spread of virus, which, i must say, sort of makes sense, cause once the epidemic was declared in Ternopil region people stormed railway station to get out of there to other regions.
The World HARM Organization representatives come on Monday.
About face masks and antiviral drugs - theyre absent in pharmacies even here, near Kiev, since yesterday morning.
Government announced the supply of masks to all regions one of its first priorities.
Originally posted by asen_y2k
I have no idea will they let me out of Ukraine. I will have to leave by flight. All my friends left by road before the closure of the borders.
I first heard of this on the 28th when my Physiology teacher rushed into the class and opened all the windows telling us that 3 people died mysteriously of a flu in the morning in our hospital. She explained us to keep the rooms ventilated and over that it was freezing outside We all thought oh well must be nothing serious, and made jokes about it... And the next day University shut down pending further notice. This was before the 3 weeks closure announcement by the govt. All the med stores were flooded by people who wanted medicines and masks. Soon they ran out of everything I am from India, and was there when swine flu 1st struck there. So I had bought 2 N95 masks with me... But its different in Ukraine than in India. Its seems much worse here even though the country is sparsely populated...What luck...I was in India when it struck there and now here....still alive though