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9/11? Truthers are the real hoaxers...


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Topic started on 26-10-2009 @ 10:37 PM by crmanager
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Short and to the point...

Before 9/11 we were split and divided as a nation and a world.

After 9/11, even if it was briefly, the nation and the world was united in its disgust at the act. Then you TRUTHERS came

You divided! You lied (missles, CIA, Bilderberg, NWO, Dick Cheney...)

My opinion? YOU are the NWO. YOU are the attempt to drive us apart.

Only a complete lunatic believes your theories (small black holes, explosives: I love the stupid explosives one because they CAN'T keep secrets)

My opinion? You are the real attempt to keep America and the world apart. You hate Democracy ( yes you do. admit it.) You hate the fact that people saw evil face to face and you LIVE that evil. YOU want anarchy and socialism.

Solution? Hold the light out so everyone can see who you are. You are the deceivers.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 10:49 PM by Neo_Serf


lol, is this some sort of satire? hilarious!



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 10:53 PM by tezzajw


Originally posted by crmanager
YOU want anarchy and socialism.

Please explain how someone can want both of these at the same time?

It seems like you derailed your own rant.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 10:55 PM by honkusbobo


People, please don't further contribute to this thread. Let it go down in flames where it rightly belongs.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 10:55 PM by Seiko


Sorry what?

Also...what?

and again...huh?



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:00 PM by searching4truth


This has to be a joke, right ?! I love democracy (or at least what it means to me) and that is why I want, I need the truth. There is no denying that there are MANY inconsistencies regarding the official story, even within the official story. Before there was any sort of truth movement, at least near me, I realized something wasn't right. I went out the day the 911 commission report was for sale, I devoured it like a trashy novel, all the while writing in the margins things that didn't add up. Years later, when I became aware that there were people, many people, many educated and experts in all fields pertaining to the tragedy, I realized perhaps my initial instincts were correct. There is no denying there was a serious breakdown in protocol leading up to, during, and after the attacks. Even IF our government was only guilty of gross negligence and complete incompetence, that's more than they have currently admitted to, and even that is to deny evidence.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:01 PM by gandhi


Wow how stereo typical is this guy? were all the same people, different opinions vary due to sources of information. stop treating it like you no whats going on, you clearly do not.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:01 PM by JohnnyR


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You are right!! I think we should have a new investigation Then we can put an end to it.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:02 PM by JohnnyNotAnonymous











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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:10 PM by Rewey


Wow.

To quote someone from another thread, "the average IQ is 100. Both sides draw from the same pool..."

If this guy WAS a truther, he'd be arguing no planes AND laser beams from space, with a serve of laser dots on the side...

Rew



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:29 PM by Sinder


Obvious disinfo.

Please delete this thread.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:48 PM by impressme


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Then you TRUTHERS came

You divided! You lied (missles, CIA, Bilderberg, NWO, Dick Cheney...)

My opinion? YOU are the NWO. YOU are the attempt to drive us apart.

Only a complete lunatic believes your theories (small black holes, explosives: I love the stupid explosives one because they CAN'T keep secrets)


LOL I find this rather amusing that you lump ALL Truthers together as all “lunatic”.
Tell that nonsense to people who lost their family members in the WTC who do not believe in the government nonsense.

Family Steering Committee For The 9/11 Independent Commission


www.911independentcommission.org...

The Sept. 11 Records
A rich vein of city records from Sept. 11, including more than 12,000 pages of oral histories rendered in the voices of 503 firefighters, paramedics, and emergency medical technicians, were made public on Aug. 12. The New York Times has published all of them.

The oral histories of dispatch transmissions are transcribed verbatim. They have have not been edited to omit coarse language.



graphics8.nytimes.com...


Pilots for 9/11 Truth


www.pilotsfor911truth.org...

Firefighters For 9-11 Truth


firefightersfor911truth.org...

Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth


www.ae911truth.org...

I find most of these researchers, scholars, scientist, Engineers, victims, police officers, firemen, first responders, office workers, all very credible and they “do not believe” in the OS.



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 12:49 AM by talisman


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Good one impressme.

I also would add that it wasn't "truthers" who wrote Operation Northwoods, or did Gladio or ovethrew democratically elected Gov's like in Iran in the 50's.

It isn't "truthers" who go around doing these things to countries and setting up dictators.

It certainly wasn't the "truthers" who did Mkultra which mostly is still secret.

It certainly wasn't the "truthers" who did the Human Radiation Experiments.

It certainly wasn't the "truthers" who did the Gulf of Tonkin, that was a pretext for war in Vietnam.


It isn't the "truthers" who keep all connections between Israel and 9/11 classified.

It wasn't the "truthers" who were hiding the oral testimonies of so many EMP who reported sounds of explosions much like bombs going off.


I think the OP should take another look at what he is saying.



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 01:26 AM by impressme


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Oh, I totally agree it is obvious that the poor guy has not done any research into 911 or into the subjects that you have just presented. Had he just done a little research from some of these creditable web sites, like some of the one’s that I provided him with, then he would have never introduced this thread. I hope he takes the time and reads some of the materials that are facts and the scientific evidence that proves the OS is false.

I just have to believe he just stumble on some of the truth and is finding hard to deal with. It was for me in the beginning, the more I researched the madder I got! I was in disbelief at first but, there was no disputing the scientific evidence.
It’s a shame that most people in the world do not know what most of us know especially about 911, If they did I believe we would start seeing tribunal trials for treason that has been orchestrated by our high powerful political leaders in the Bush administration and congress. We may live to see it yet, who knows.



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 01:38 AM by Rewey


Originally posted by crmanager
After 9/11, even if it was briefly, the nation and the world was united in its disgust at the act. Then you TRUTHERS came


Actually, this part of what you're saying really bugs me.

What kind of moron would ACTUALLY believe that 9/11 would 'unite the world', as you put it?

Only narcissists who think that everyone feels as bad as Americans do that they were attacked.

Only narcissists who can't see that the 9/11 events were a RESPONSE to decades of hedonistic foreign policy abuse and foreign exploitation, and not the 'first stone thrown'.

Only narcissists who forget that nearly 25% of the world's population is Muslim.

Only narcissists who forget that prior to 9/11, American troops were stationed in 70% of the countries around the globe, half of which they could probably not locate on a map, and not all of those countries were happy about it.

Get the picture? Not all of the world was 'united in disgust'. In some countries, INCLUDING THE US, there were people dancing in the streets and celebrating.

That, IN ITSELF, means your OP is baseless, as the 'united world' you accuse truthers of pulling apart never existed in the first place...

Rewey



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 05:16 AM by jprophet420


Originally posted by crmanager
Short and to the point...

Before 9/11 we were split and divided as a nation and a world.

After 9/11, even if it was briefly, the nation and the world was united in its disgust at the act. Then you TRUTHERS came

You divided! You lied (missles, CIA, Bilderberg, NWO, Dick Cheney...)

My opinion? YOU are the NWO. YOU are the attempt to drive us apart.

Only a complete lunatic believes your theories (small black holes, explosives: I love the stupid explosives one because they CAN'T keep secrets)

My opinion? You are the real attempt to keep America and the world apart. You hate Democracy ( yes you do. admit it.) You hate the fact that people saw evil face to face and you LIVE that evil. YOU want anarchy and socialism.

Solution? Hold the light out so everyone can see who you are. You are the deceivers.

The news reported it as controlled demolition as it happened on at least one channel. Put that in your divide and conquer it.



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:43 AM by crmanager


Inane.

All of these responses are esentially inane. Let me summarize...

"Are you serious? Anyone with a brain knows that a micro nuke/Dick Cheney in a ninja suit/the woman who said she heard an explosion/my uncle Bob is the truth."

Well, thank you so much for putting me straight with these well thought out responses.

You are the same people who say "With a littel research you can see that Christianity is Satanic."

Because you say it is does not make it so.



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 09:22 AM by jthomas


Originally posted by crmanager

My opinion? You are the real attempt to keep America and the world apart. You hate Democracy ( yes you do. admit it.) You hate the fact that people saw evil face to face and you LIVE that evil. YOU want anarchy and socialism.



The only success Truthers ever had was way back in 1945.

www.youtube.com...



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 10:24 AM by NIcon


I see the point of the OP. The pet goat sitting, is he dead or alive, "no terrorist is going to smoke me out of this classroom" president, the Wolfenstein war game playing military, the free fall denying ...er...um... agreeing NIST, the "let's rent the spare bedroom out to a terrorist" FBI, the scalpel to penis experimenting CIA, the molten metal denying but oh so impeccable Mr. Gross, the nuclear non-proliferation asset exposing but bomb Iran before they get nukes Vice Presidential office, the "trade, trade, trade, before the building goes away" stockbrokers, the "let's send a bouqet of roses and $100,000 to our favorite terrori...er...friend in the US" head of the ISI, the "here's a diagram of Osama's super duper cave hideout, but there's no good targets in Afghanistan, so let's bomb Iraq" Mr. Rumsfeld, the "I know the towers are going to collapse so I'm leaving my perch in 7 so I can see it live, so call everyone and let them know where I'm at..what? the communications aren't working? well I'm outta here anyway" Mr. Gulliani, the "no one could imagine, except the people who come up with our hijack scenario drills" Ms. Rice, the "be sure they put the crime scene tape around those columns when they reach China" Mr. Ashcroft, the "this is a good thing" Mr. Netanyahu, and the "air around *COUGH* *COUGH* ground zero *HACK**COUGH* is fine *COUGH* *COUGH* I'm breathing it now *HACK* *COUGH* and I'm fine *HACK* so let's *COUGH* open up Wall Street *HACK* and let the swindling commence *COUGH*" EPA are all such fine trustworthy citizens that we should not worry.

It's such a beautiful, though somewhat boring, Tuesday morning. I sure hope my deity doesn't get bored enough to decide to wager with Satan that I could not be pulverized into the ground, like he/she did with that poor pitiful Job. But perchance it does happen to me today I know all with 911 is well.



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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 11:24 AM by tomfrusso


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Hats off to you crmanager, these truethers can't take it. They can't take any view that is not their own. Of all the absurd things, Oh Please, 911 conspiracy, what a joke.

The even bigger joke is the "911 trueth movement"

And yet, another reason ATS is killing ATS.



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