Seeing the discussion title I thought you were going to claim the EU was going to attack the US. Thanks for long, violent giggle fit which resulted.

Earlier, I wondered why this thread couldn't have actually started as a response in the 'ATS is too American' thread. After all, that's what this is all about as well as a couple of other recent threads.*

Then I remembered, posts and threads in 'Board Business and Questions' don't result in flags and stars. And we gotta have them there flags and stars.




*which don't really go anywhere near offsetting the anti-European or 'USA is #1 and the rest of y'all are looooooooseeers!' type posting that I've seen over the years.



[edit on 20-10-2009 by Merriman Weir]

I'm British

We are no better nor no worse than USA.

The simple fact is that we don't have the clout or power to make the big decisions that USA make and hence cannot be then criticised for making those decisions.

France, Britain, etc. all go about furrowing their own little nests stamping on the little people in their own way (UK - MP expense scandal, unelected people in Government )

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
I diddnt do anything. As well as 300 Million Americans who were not alove at that time period.

As far as i know none of the 700+ million europeans of today were alive back then either. So you don't feel responsible for something your ancestors may or may have not done but you want europeans to feel responsible?

What a constructive, well researched thread! Now we can all point fingers at each other across the ocean and yell "ha ha, you're worse than we are!". Meanwhile, our allied troops are fighting side by side in the Middle East in meaningless wars and our economies are in a profound coma, but why focus on current stuff, when we can talk about what Europe did 400 years ago.

It's Europe's fault.

Can i just point out that you Europeans have it pretty easy, us Canadians get treated like Americas retarted nephew when really we are that quiet smart kid who keeps to himself in his room, and while he is in his room he has the freedom to say and do whatever he likes (excluding the obvious exceptions, murder for example) It is only when we leave our room (Canada for anyone whos missing the word play) and head downstairs (America) that we get teased and told to shut up.
You Euro's have to go on vacation to be made to feel less important, ive got literally a 20 minute drive.
Its like when your dealing with a crack addict, you can tell them a million times they have an addiction but until they admit it to themselves nothing will change. America rules the world with the greatest of intentions, and no matter how much the rest of the globe tries to explain to them thats not the case, it will only make a difference once the majority of the people in America change their views.

hey Poe,

if you wanna go back in time hundreds of years and set up a discussion forum about European evil be my guest, I'll come back and agree with you. The fact that we did wrong in the past is no excuse for any nation to do wrong now. If we cannot learn from past mistakes we don't deserve this planet. I also think you need to do some more history research and learn to differentiate between us Europeans, yeh I know "We all look the same don't we?"

I don't think most Europeans had much of a problem with the US until the 'Chicago School' performed a coup de dat and took over your country. Since then though it's all been downhill. We were blind to your indiscretions until then.

Unfortunately since at least the time of the Kuomintag the US government has had a policy of supporting dictatorships covertly and overtly, while betraying freedom and doing everything it can to demolish it and true democracy whenever it staggers to its feet out of despotism. I don't blame US citizens for this, I blame the corporatist regime that hides under the banner of capitalism, and they're not exclusively US either. The same power structures have been in control for thousands of years.

I find it astonishing that on a site that claims to deny ignorance, one where I would imagine everyone considers themselves to be awake, that there are still so many hypnotised and mind controlled numpties. You are reacting in just the manner that your masters want you to. For the sake of all our children please stop fuelling the false 'you against us' paradigm. The power elite have no loyalty to any nation, they look down upon patriotism with disgust and laugh at us for our bickering. They believe that 'do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law' and we better (snip) well wake up to it pretty sharpish.

[edit on 20-10-2009 by sharps] typos, typos...

[edit on 20-10-2009 by sharps]

Originally posted by Hack28
You Euro's have to go on vacation to be made to feel less important, ive got literally a 20 minute drive.

That's not quite true, in my home city I've been given the spiel by American tourists as to how everything is 'bigger and better' back home.

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
*which don't really go anywhere near offsetting the anti-European or 'USA is #1 and the rest of y'all are looooooooseeers!' type posting that I've seen over the years.

Interesting perspective.

As an American I see the US being put under the microscope and judged all day everyday by the world. We get our actions thrown in our faces all the time here on ATS. When somebody simply points out what others have done now all of a sudden somebody starts saying we are claiming the following?????

{USA is #1} ?

And of course they throw this crap in there.

{Y'all}

Talk about generalizations

Sad really.