So let me see if I can keep score here... for the sake of thread space, we'll start somewhere around the time of the Caesars...

Rome conquered most of Europe, bloodletting everyone from the Norman-Saxons on down... then the Visigoths (or was it the Goths?) sacked Rome, killing thousands upon thousands... Europe engaged in the 1st and 2nd Great Crusades to defend (or retake) Jerusalem from the Moors, both sides killing tens of thousands... the Spanish had their Inquisition, the Roman Catholic Church had people excommunicated or burned at the stake for daring to believe things like the Earth wasn't the center of the Universe... the 100 years war, the War of the Roses, the sinking of the Spanish fleet by the British, the French Revolution which is why we know what a guillotine is, millions of South American natives slaughtered at the hands of the Spanish, the French and Indian war in which smallpox riddled blankies were used as siege weapons, the American Revolution which all but destroyed the British military as well as the East Coast of the current U.S., the war of 1812, Napoleon's genocidal idiocy, Mexican-American war, the virtual elimination of Native Americans, the Spanish-American war, some piddly little Archduke gets his head blown off in Austria-Hungary which brought us Mustard Gas and trench warfare, World War II, the Korean War in which even the U.N. had to pick a side which resulted in China getting pissed and kicking the U.N. and McCarthur clean out of Asia, the French bite off more than they can chew in Viet Nam, so the U.S. goes in and makes an even bigger mess, The Falklands, the Iran Revolution of '79, Grenada, the first Gulf War started by a lunatic despot and ended by the U.S. with a lot of U.N. backing, which lef to Iraq part deux, an Afghanistan which couldn't be taken by neither the Soviets nor (now) the Americans... that about it?

Okay, all that typing may have been for nothing as this post may be deleted, but I think it's safe to say after re-reading the above that historically, we're all a bunch of douchey jackasses that need to learn from past mistakes. Don't think any one nation can claim the prize on this one.

A funny thread about literally nothing aka much Ado about Nothing.
No one is better the the other be it cherokee, canadian, bavarian, spanyard or basque or whatever nation you want to point out.
No nation on this earth came to "fame" without rape, manslaugher or to be more precise, terror.
Maybe Europeans terrorized the New World until 1776, but the New World continued it until now.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
*which don't really go anywhere near offsetting the anti-European or 'USA is #1 and the rest of y'all are looooooooseeers!' type posting that I've seen over the years.

Interesting perspective.

As an American I see the US being put under the microscope and judged all day everyday by the world. We get our actions thrown in our faces all the time here on ATS.

You do realise this is as a direct consequence of America taking centre stage in world affairs don't you. If you want to stand in the spotlight (and reap the applause, oil, whatever) then you've got to expect the negatives too.

When somebody simply points out what others have done now all of a sudden somebody starts saying we are claiming the following?????

{USA is #1} ?

You're taking this out of context. This thread is in reponse - no matter what the OP claims - to a couple of recent threads about American posters on ATS. Part of the reasoning behind those threads is due to what I mentioned above and you've quoted. Over the years, the 'USA OK!' cheer-leading has been rife, and more often than not, it's quickly followed up with comments about how great America is and how # it is everywhere else because we don't have American [insert variable from a long list]

And of course they throw this crap in there.

{Y'all}

Talk about generalizations

Sad really.

That's a bit rich considering the basis of this thread is about the lumping together of dozens of countries with different cultures and even languages as one single body that's, apparently, all the same.

And you've got the gall to talk about "generalisations"?

Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

If this thread illustrates anything its that if two groups of people, who are so freaking similar, cant see eye to eye. What chance do we have with..........wait for it.........Arab people (gaaasssspppp)

Originally posted by Merriman Weir

And you've got the gall to talk about "generalisations"?

Have I made any generalizations?

Originally posted by grrrrt
Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

You have been mis-informed, they have publicly apologized for their role in the Holocaust and as recently as the last UN convention, a month ago was it, gave Blueprints from Aushwitz to the Israeli President.
I have to say though very refreshing that someone asked before making crazy statements!! Big ol Star.

Originally posted by grrrrt
Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

Where did you hear this absolute nonsense?

Stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Of course they are embarrassed over what happened and act accordingly but pretending it never happened?

Please tell me you are not American, saying this in a thread where your general intelligence is being questioned

Originally posted by grrrrt
Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

You must be kidding! Have you read a history book that is used in Germany? It is FULL of stuff about the Nazi time and noone except radical parties deny the involvement of german people in the Nazi Party or the denyal that the atrocities of WW2 never happened. Goolgle for Willy Brandt bow Warsaw.

I'm not darwinist, evolutionist, creationist or racist, but I think you're all just bunch of monkeys.



I don't really mean that you're a monkey. Just that most of the time we act like monkeys, sleep like monkeys, look like monkeys, even think like monkeys.

Just kidding, of course you're not stupid filthy hairy creepy-looking beast. Or, are you? Can't be. Maybe, you're an alien! No wait, I know, you're a reptile! A bird? Superman! Batman, Spiderman?? Are you American, or European, or from Planet Krypton?

Silly Americans and Brits... and Europeans, not to mention Africans or Russians. Good thing Chinese are still normal... well, not according to Japan though, but Japs are crazy everyone knows that. Well... there must be a tiny corner on our planet where those Original™ Best of the Best People® dwell?

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