reply to post by ElectricUniverse
Thanks for the information provided. I have often considered the effects of “galactic” influences on our Earth, but not researched due to time and
interest. Apparently, others have. With that said, consider my spewings from the perspective of an “ignorant, in the ‘astro’-turf of
From some links provided to prevent having to return to previous pages:
Not dated, but later than quakes cited.
“It has been observed that some geo-physical parameter eg., Kp (planetary indices) and E-flux (electron flux) changes after the coronal mass
ejection from the outer periphery of the sunspots. When the Kp (planetary indices) and E-flux (electron flux) changes suddenly it affects the
environment of the earth. This phenomenon changes the thermosphere ionosphere atmosphere and lithosphere locally as well as globally. The response of
the magnetosphere to interplanetary shocks or pressure pulses can result in sudden injections of energetic particles into the inner magnetosphere. It
has been recorded that 36 hours before the occurrence of earthquake Kp values and E-flux increases drastically. After this increase sudden fall in Kp
and E-fflux has been noticed before the earthquake and tsunami. The phenomenon was recorded before the Pakistan earthquake of 8th October 2005, Iran
earthquake of 23rd February 2005,Sumatra earthquake on 26th December 2004 and Gujarat earthquake of 26th January 2001. Similar observations were
recorded in other parts of the world.”
“Deleneation of active faults by seismic microzonation coupled with sunspot activity studies has the proven potential for the triggering of an
earthquake in space and time.”
Would it be safe to say that should a CME occur, a seismic event will follow within 36 hours? I believe there was a CME in the time frame of the
recent American Samoa event, and those that followed shortly thereafter. Is there data available to support the premise stated in the link?
“Both coronal holes and CMEs are monitored by satellite-borne and ground-based instruments, which makes it possible to predict periods of enhanced
seismic risk. The geoeffectiveness of solar wind from a coronal hole only depends on the position of the hole relative to the Earth, and for the CMEs
an additional factor is their speed. It has been recently found that a useful tool in identifying the population of geoeffective CMEs is the detection
of long-wavelength (decameter-hectometer) type II solar radio bursts, as the CMEs associated with them are much faster and wider than average.”
From our friend Google:
“A network of sites round the globe each measures its local geomagnetic activity of the atmosphere. The different locations means the range of
values for each station varies. Each site's readings is scaled onto the Kp Scale of 0 - 9. These scales vary from site to site, but 9 on two
different sites is always a high activity level. Higher latitudes (eg Norway) are more active than lower ones (eg Sahara). From these data a number of
other useful indices are calculated, including aa, am and Ap.”
A similar explanation was found at NOAA/ Space weather:
I gather these are earth based monitors. The aa, am, and Ap indices are generated by massaging the Kp data, essentially breaking it down into
differing hourly segments, and/or geographical locations. Using weighted averages from the various locations derives the value, and anomalies can be
found. Restated: The magnetic field of the Earth is being measured constantly, and these measurements are manipulated to obtain the various K
The “cosis” link mentions the SOHO satellite in reference to Kp increases, but does not indicate values, nor specify origin. Any additional
information would be appreciated.
I can readily agree that fluctuations in the magnetic field may be utilized as precursors of quakes. I do not understand the link to “cause”. The
mechanism for producing the magnetic field, as it is understood, is the fluid motion within the molted core, described as a dynamo process.
From Wiki: “In order to maintain the magnetic field against ohmic decay (which would occur for the dipole field in 20,000 years) the outer core must
be convecting. Convection is likely some combination of thermal and compositional convection. The mantle controls the rate at which heat is extracted
from the core. Heat sources include gravitational energy released by the compression of the core, gravitational energy released by the rejection of
light elements (probably sulphur, oxygen, or silicon) at the inner core boundary as it grows, latent heat of crystallization at the inner core
boundary, and radioactivity of potassium, uranium and thorium.”
I submit that the anomalous K values might be produced by the intense heat caused by the pressures involved when the massive “plates” move against
each other, more so than a “galactic” increase in magnetic energy. Though I do not rule out the possibility of a contribution by outside forces,
it is doubtful, to me, that such force could be attributed to the “cause”. The magnetic field strength measured at the earth’s surface is
30,000-60,000 nano-Tesla(n-T), and added to that the normal, typical 2-5 n-T supplied by the solar wind, does not appear to be sufficient to provide
“cause”. I am not privy to any data that show a marked increase to that which would support a “galactic” cause of earthquakes, as the linked
information ( just the free stuff), did not provide such data.
I readily admit that discussion of “electron flux” is way over my head, and is apt to stay there. I have done a cursory search, and readings,
however, not enough time on my part, and too little “surface” information is available in layman terms to spark my continued interest. If you can
provide links, or information of an explanatory nature, in layman terms, it would be appreciated.
A question I have is “Since the papers have been published, has this information been used to successfully predict a seismic event of any
magnitude?” If so, why have the MSM not forewarned of such an event?