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Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
Alright, now look, I know this is going to piss a lot of folks off on the surface, as I know this guy is not exactly well liked here.
That being said, he is spot on in exposing one of the biggest conspiracies (which I don't even think can be called a conspiracy anymore, as anybody who is not completely asleep at the wheel can see this): The absolute control and use of the media system as a propaganda and brainwashing WEAPON, used by TPTB and their puppets in the gov...
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Seems like youre the one spouting fear, we dont FEAR anything we are just aware of whats going on.
And while im glad you have your books, that serves nothing so much as experience does.
Like a surgeon whose done a lot of reading and never performed an operation.
Keep thinking they dont pose any threat to you,
and keep thinking that given the chance these men wouldnt have you wiped out for not believing what they do.
Thats not my problem, the rest of us who really DO know how people like him think,
have been there and have SEEN it and LIVED it, take our precautions, and while we dont fear it, we watch with caution.
Ignore it if you like and bury yourself in your books, after all , if it was up to him, youd read and see what HE wanted you to .
Good day!
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
Seems like youre the one spouting fear, we dont FEAR anything we are just aware of whats going on.
And while im glad you have your books, that serves nothing so much as experience does.
Like a surgeon whose done a lot of reading and never performed an operation.
You can major in anything you want and read whatever you want , much like you accuse everyone on this board of buying in to, however personal up close experience with whats really going on there speaks volumes more then all your poly sci classes and ego.
Keep thinking they dont pose any threat to you, and keep thinking that given the chance these men wouldnt have you wiped out for not believing what they do.
Thats not my problem, the rest of us who really DO know how people like him think, have been there and have SEEN it and LIVED it, take our precautions, and while we dont fear it, we watch with caution.
Ignore it if you like and bury yourself in your books, after all , if it was up to him, youd read and see what HE wanted you to .
Good day!
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
Seems like youre the one spouting fear, we dont FEAR anything we are just aware of whats going on.
And while im glad you have your books, that serves nothing so much as experience does.
Like a surgeon whose done a lot of reading and never performed an operation.
You can major in anything you want and read whatever you want , much like you accuse everyone on this board of buying in to, however personal up close experience with whats really going on there speaks volumes more then all your poly sci classes and ego.
Keep thinking they dont pose any threat to you, and keep thinking that given the chance these men wouldnt have you wiped out for not believing what they do.
Thats not my problem, the rest of us who really DO know how people like him think, have been there and have SEEN it and LIVED it, take our precautions, and while we dont fear it, we watch with caution.
Ignore it if you like and bury yourself in your books, after all , if it was up to him, youd read and see what HE wanted you to .
Good day!
DOUBLE POST...MY APOLOGIES.
[edit on 14-10-2009 by EvolvedMinistry]
Originally posted by john124
reply to post by Amagnon
Do you actually understand why the majority of Iranian people don't want Ahmadi and the rest of the crooks to stay in power?
[edit on 13-10-2009 by john124]
Originally posted by paxnatus
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
I love how you pick and choose the statements that you respond to. Are you capable of reading something without putting your twisted spin on it? I'll try again, see if you can answer my questions.
Because I believe the Holocaust actually took place, I am fear mongering? Ahmadnutjob threatened to wipe Israel off the map, so he is a figment of my imagination?
Since I hold true to the belief that these two things actually happened I live in fear and I spread fear to the members of ATS? Have I got it right? summary of you, spewing your vitriolic diatribe!
For someone who is hell bent on looking at two sides of something, you sure can't tolerate anyone sharing a different opinion than you.
The arrogance you portray, is astounding for someone who has not been around that long! Yet you act like you are the expert and damn anyone who challenges your opinion.
Even though I stated in my post both parties were guilty of corruption in this country, you still accused me of partisan politics.
For the record I can't stand Obama I think he is a tool!! But I don't need the media to tell me that! I mean after all they adore him!! Common sense, something you are obviously lacking, is enough for me. Geeez....
when a person sends accolades to a dictator and oppressor of the people, weather it be Ahmad, Saddam, Chavez Kim Jong, I call into question their judgment period.
what is it with you that you defend these men? Have you done any research on what the people are going through under their rule? I have! Most of it falls under crimes against humanity!!
Get a grip!
ATS IS SUCH A REPUTABLE FORUM WHOSE VETERANS ARE SEASONED AND RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE POLITICAL COMMUNITY. You get your information from google and youtube, mine is based on scholarly sources. (i.e. research done by people with PHD's who have investigated every angle.) Your posts reek of partiality and partisan influence. The information that you have been given is the crap that is constantly circulated and fed down the throats of everyone who watches CNN or Fox news. Believe it or not, there's real information out there that tells a much different story THAT ISN'T OWNED BY THE FILTH OF CORPORATE HANDS.
Originally posted by shanerz
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
I don't mean to rain on your parade, nor do I mean to be a dick whatsoever.
It's just that a lot of people don't understand what will likely happen if we keep pushing. Protoplasmic Traveler put it well in his first post on Russia's Putin warns against intimidating Iran, Page 4 and the rest of his logic is downright insightful.
[edit on 14-10-2009 by shanerz]
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by paxnatus
Its called arrogance, thats why i just stopped posting, because even tho he and the other person THINK they know whats going on, THINK that their books and studies have it down , they dont.
Those of us who have been out there in the world and seen the evil first hand and how it operates , know what we are talking about.
Its blind hypocrisy. He accuses us of buying in to the hype and listening to politics, TV and things we read, yet he basis his whole opinion on only books and no real world experience.
Its youthful arrogance.......and it can get you in really hot water.
Good posts Pax i feel ya
Originally posted by paxnatus
reply to post by shanerz
Excuse me I do not believe I was talking to you! So why you chose to personally speak for evolved ministry is beyond me.
Let me share a personal story, not one from wiki...
I know how evil Koni is. Do you think because I didn't call every single human or corp. down by name I don't think they are evil!! There are too many to name.
The rest of your post is simply your opinion. You have no idea who I am and whether or not I have loved ones in Iran so don't judge something you know nothing about. You act foolish and naive.
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Sorry, but I haven't seen you back up anything. Nothing, not one iota. If you call posting youtube videos the backing of your information, then, you fall right in line with the majority here on ATS, and the majority of info that I see posted is not reputable.
Originally posted by shanerz
Ahmadinejad didn't threaten to wipe Israel off the map. He said that God's vengence would bring an end to the corruption that is Isreal's government. No religious squabble, no hate of jews. Just simple belief-backed sentiment, derived from a factual situation.
Don't think anyone said the holocaust didn't happen. Not even Ahmadinejad... He said he didn't believe in the actual representation of what we all perceive the holocaust to be. He said it's blown out of proportion as to the total toll of life during WW2. He wants an open investigation from academia. What's so wrong about that?
Originally posted by paxnatus
You need to ask yourself why it bothers you so much that people hold a different opinion than you and yet it is ok for you to defend Palestine, attack Israel and stump for Ahmad.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Those of us who have been out there in the world and seen the evil first hand and how it operates , know what we are talking about.
Its youthful arrogance.......and it can get you in really hot water.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Like i said you can say what you want but my real world experience outweighs your theories and books any day.
Did i mention that I live in the USA and work with refugees EVERY DAY from Pakistan, Baghdad, Iran, Afghanistan? mmm i guess their stories and point of views are all b.s. too right?
Awful awful America and its hateful military, interesting how so many of these people chose to come here to the US to escape these areas. And its not because of OUR forces there, its because of the GOVERNMENTS there.
Take your military, US bashing somewhere else, I dont buy into it.
I have delt with for a long time and DO deal with on a daily basis these people. All of which are muslim, and comparing their stories and point of views to YOURS, you are way off base.
Oh wait, you read lots of books and are a poly sci major, who studies the muslim religion, I guess these people whose entire families have been muslim for generations dont have a leg to stand on........
Good day