Feds to 60 Million American Anglers: We don't need you , page 1
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reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 12:53 PM by lucentenigma
reply to post by Jessicamsa



My grandfather was a life time commercial fisherman along the gulf coast.

He would build 50 foot shrimp boats with his bare hands.

Anyways you wouldn't believe the hoops they make you go through to shrimp now days.

With all of the imported shrimp bringing local shrimp prices down you pretty much break even after paying for diesel, maintenance, etc.

His town used to be a bustling little fishing village but now days most of the boats are just rotting, a few old-timers are still trying to make a living but I don't see them lasting another 5 years before the industry is completely wiped out.

Edit to add: My point is you hear about how our manufacturing base has been shipped overseas. What you don't hear about too much is how we are losing/have lost much of our ability to feed ourselves.


[edit on 10-10-2009 by lucentenigma]


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 12:59 PM by bettermakings
reply to post by groingrinder



Yeah, sorry but it's true. Collecting rainwater is illegal in many places.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 01:05 PM by whaaa
reply to post by Jessicamsa



I wonder how this will affect the fresh water rivers and streams?

I just reactivated my flyfishing guide and outfitting service. The Bush
huge gasoline increase pretty much kicked all the profit out of my business as travel to pristine, world class waters was included in my guide fee.

All I can say is.........."not again!!"


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 01:09 PM by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by whaaa



What's wrong with a little elbow grease and a paddle

In my opinion if you can't bike, hike, or paddle to it, it should stay wild.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 01:11 PM by amari
Originally posted by Jessicamsa
IRVINE, Calif. USA – October 5, 2009 – A recently published administration document outlines a structure that could result in closures of sport fishing in salt and freshwater areas across America. The White House created an Interagency Oceans Policy Task Force in June and gave them only 90 days to develop a comprehensive federal policy for all U.S. coastal, ocean and Great Lakes waters. Under the guise of ‘protecting’ these areas, the current second phase of the Task Force direction is to develop zoning which may permanently close vast areas of fishing waters nationwide. This is to be completed by December 9, 2009.


Dave Pfeiffer, President of Shimano American Corporation explained, “In spite of extensive submissions from the recreational fishing community to the Task Force in person and in writing, they failed to include any mention of the over one million jobs or the 6o million anglers which may be affected by the new policies coast to coast. Input from the environmental groups who want to put us off the water was adopted into the report verbatim – the key points we submitted as an industry were ignored.”


So, basically they are going to be outlawing fishing. So, in America you will be unable to hunt, fish, catch rain water, or grow a garden without breaking the law.

What is left?

[edit on 10/10/2009 by Jessicamsa]


You asked what is left you are exactly right the ram it down your throat

control everything in your life left. ^Y^


[edit on 10-10-2009 by amari]


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 01:14 PM by whaaa
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to
post by whaaa



What's wrong with a little elbow grease and a paddle

In my opinion if you can't bike, hike, or paddle to it, it should stay wild.


I completely agree with you but it's hard to get fatassed dentist, lawyers and businesmen to do anything physical other than light a cigar or answer a cell phone.

However it's those "sports" that my business depends on, so I cater to their wishes.

Flyfishing........the yuppies blood sport!!



reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 01:19 PM by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by whaaa



All the more reason those fat out of shape POS lawyers and doctors should stay home. But I due understand your livelihood depends on it.


reply posted on 10-10-2009 @ 01:21 PM by mikerussellus
reply to post by Jessicamsa



Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

They think they can ban fishing? How? Gods! This administration is so stupid.

Is there anybody left in America that thinks this loser and his administration is a good idea?

Hope and change my butt.

They day I stop fishing for trout is the day I stop breathing. Let them frickin' try.
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