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Feds to 60 Million American Anglers: We don't need you

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posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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We will create or save how many million jobs?

Just asking.............................



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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well thats 20% of you in america distracted for awhile.


a bit of advice .. dont travel on a plane and dont stand under or in any tall biuldings .. lightening does strike twice.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Hmmm, not so long ago I believe Gov. Granholm of Michigan turned over Michigans waterways(including the Great Lakes) to the feds. I'm sure that there's some relation here and the feds just got them without no fight. She pitched it as a financial issue but I'm sure it was in trade for a Federal job(something in the green sector) she's been positioning herself for while in her last year of governance. How sad that she just handed over the greatest resource of the World to those criminals on the hill.

This is nothing but another declaration of war on the American people IMO. Note the traitors.





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posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 07:11 PM
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Feds to 60 Million American Anglers: We don't need you


Now we know our government is nuts...these guys could be getting suicidal with crap like this.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 07:14 PM
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so it rains, water falls from the sky, collects in large basins, to make rivers

then life forms in them (fish)

then things eat them (bears, birds, humans etc)

no one would make a law (well they'd try) to tell a bear not to eat fish from a small lake, who has the right to tell humans they cant? and for what reason?

i dont even live in the US or even fish, but i may not be able to afford to buy food the way things are going

this makes me angry and i dont even live in the states, if they take it from you theyll take it from the rest of us smaller weaker countries too



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Tyr Sog
Hmmm, not so long ago I believe Gov. Granholm of Michigan turned over Michigans waterways(including the Great Lakes) to the feds.


You could be right, she's your basic Obama Suckup, we're also thinking shes got a deal with Obama to move Gitmo up here. I don't know how they can inforce any radical fishing ban/regulations here, back in the 50's it was always said that the average life expectancy of a Game Warden in the Upper Peninsula was 2 years. That figure has since changed I'm sure but when you have denied those who live off the land and the high unemployment rate things could be slipping into yesteryear. This is just another attempt to control the masses and it's with food.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 07:52 PM
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While I agree this is unlikely to pass (read: not impossible), and enforcing it would be an impossible job, I really don't think that's the point.

Doesn't it bother you at all to think that you could be sitting on a boat fishing and this would give them the ability to arrest you?

All I'm saying is that it seems like the amount of possible offenses in this country is on the rise. And all I see is one more way for them to come after any single person they want to.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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the day america outlaws fishing is the day i hope america is ended

there isnt much else to say about that subject, simply put the day you cant cast a line in this country, we are no longer in this country, there isnt even a word for the place we would be in then

but it would be the closest thing to hell on earth

humans evolved since the beginning of time as fisherman and now they want to take away that basic instinct

the fact that is even able to be considered should have people heads on a platter for such ignorance

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posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:17 PM
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Since I don't fish, I may be missing something, but I don't see where they're prohibiting fishing. They're closing some fishing sites. Does that mean you *can't* fish there? Or does it just mean that they will no longer provide a nicely maintained site to launch your boat, park your car, and all that stuff?



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by chiron613
Since I don't fish, I may be missing something, but I don't see where they're prohibiting fishing. They're closing some fishing sites. Does that mean you *can't* fish there? Or does it just mean that they will no longer provide a nicely maintained site to launch your boat, park your car, and all that stuff?


Your really missing it here. You will not be able to be on or near the water at all. No boating, fishing, swimming, no nothing.
This is an attack by the Extreme left Enviromentalists.


Input from the environmental groups who want to put us off the water was adopted into the report verbatim


This will not be voted on by Congress. They were given the power to control this long ago and have added to their collective power now.

Do you all get it now?!
This will not be voted on.
They do it, it's done. Period. End of quote.
Finished.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety
Regarding rainwater collection, if you need to ask permission...then don't!


I don't understand.

Don't what??



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach him to fish and get thrown in the federal pen.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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I wonder if the Amish will take me in. I'd rather work my rear end and have something that actually belongs to me. How much more can we take untill we revolt?



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by groingrinder

Originally posted by Jessicamsa



Civil disobedience. Then poaching. You cannot tell a man that the rain that falls on his property belongs to someone else anymore than you can tell him that the air he breathes belongs to somebody else.


I hate to tell you this, but this spring or so there was a case in Colorado where a woman was told by the court that she had no right to trap rainwater in barrels for her own use that such belonged to some gov't outfit or another. So you see....

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posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:46 PM
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Could anybody please hook me up with some more links pertaining to this? I'm a reporter in Michigan and would like to look into it.

Thanks.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
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Ok, I've calmed down a bit. I've thought this through.

They can't do it. Silly idea, more DC BS, but they can't do it. There would be riots, not allowing parents to feed their children, not allowing people to feed themselves. They just couldn't. It would be the end of the government right there.

Nope, not gonna happen, unless they want a revolution right there and then.

S&F for illustrating how moronic our government is. But it will not happen.



Well, it sure wouldn't work where I used to live. People there hunt and fish for their food still. Years ago there was an incident where the game warden took food off someone's table during dinner and word got around. They found him naked and hanging somewhere, still barely alive. They transferred him out of the area for his own safety. You don't mess with people's food around there.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by Aliensun

Originally posted by groingrinder

Originally posted by Jessicamsa



Civil disobedience. Then poaching. You cannot tell a man that the rain that falls on his property belongs to someone else anymore than you can tell him that the air he breathes belongs to somebody else.


I hate to tell you this, but this spring or so there was a case in Colorado where a woman was told by the court that she had no right to trap rainwater in barrels for her own use that such belonged to some gov't outfit or another. So you see....

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Yes exactly! That was the case I was referring to.

The government said the rainwater belonged to someone else and threatened hefty fines for "stealing" the rainwater.



posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 09:20 PM
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I read the report and I now don't think the OPTF is about taking away anyones fishing rights. I think it is more about protecting the fish we have and the environment they breed in.

www.uscg.mil...

www.google.com...


www.whitehouse.gov...

www.hawaii247.org...

Public meetings are being held by the OPTF, attend and express your concerns. I plan to.

Now it looks like this is "much ado about nothing" and transparent fear mongering by a fishing tackle mfg. company. They do make good gear however.

Before you get your knickers in a twist; do a little investigation. Google is our friend.








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posted on Oct, 10 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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Far from criticizing, I would thank you for finding the proof that there is a plot to destroy the US fishing industry.
The truth about the decline of commercial fishing in the US is that it's all about economics. It is cheaper to get fish and shrimp somewhere else.

I do question the 60 million number, that's roughly 1 in 5 or 6 people in the US that are fisherman? Does that number people who actively fish or just the number of people who have fished at least once in their lives and never picked up a rod since they were 10?

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