reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
There was nothing in your last post that I can object to (at least until you edited in all the vitriol after my quote that was completely
unnecessary). It was your response to me saying that you could not leave the unified field, that you would argue that we do
, that threw me
off, and if you really believe that then it remains an unresolved/unexplained point of yours.
When people talk about "unity" in the ultimate sense there is literally only 1 thing they are talking about, that they could possibly be talking
about, though there could exist an infinite number of ways of referring to it from within it.
This 1 thing, is literally the ONLY thing in existence. This is just a way of perceiving, no different than looking at a physical object and calling
it 1 object when it could equally be said to be trillions of separate atoms, so seeing things this way quickly becomes self-obvious and can't be
debunked, just as you can't debunk calling an object a single object when "really" it consists of unnumbered atoms. "Really" it is also one
, depending simply upon perception; neither view is "right" or "wrong" or "better" or "worse" except in specific contexts. Instead
of viewing everything in existence as separate things, and separate forces at work, they are all perceived as the same thing, which is the only
thing in existence, which is "everything." It always exists, and everyone is always intrinsically connected to it. To say you can leave it, is
like saying a dog can cross a road without taking the actual dog with it. If you can leave the "everything" then I have to wonder what the "you"
is, because if "you" "are" anything at all, you instantly qualify as being a part of "everything."
Viewed in this context, people are not separate, individual things. Rather, we are just part of "everything," specifically the part of everything
that "peoples." Waves in the ocean wave, and populations of people "people" (as a verb) the universe. Anger angers the universe, sadness
saddens the universe, cooking cooks the universe, loving loves the universe, creating creates the universe, killing kills the universe,
experiencing experiences the universe, etc., etc., etc., all of this on the ultimate blank slate of the unified field, which is "all things"
combined (ie the 4 fundamental forces according to conventional physics, but obviously there is still more yet), which is therefore from where "all
Some other things could be said about this "unity."
It is non-local, meaning it can't possibly exist only here
, or only there
, because defining 1 location necessarily means excluding
others by comparison, and nothing can be excluded from "everything." So it must therefore exist "everywhere" if it can truly be said to be
Since there is consciousness in the universe, consciousness ultimately arises from the "one thing" and is the original source of this property.
Therefore "the source" is not only conscious, but the very source of all consciousness in the universe.
Since awareness and the ability to experience, derive meaning, etc. are present in the universe, these also are part of "everything," arise out of
the unified field, and are therefore manifest expressions of definite properties of the unified field.
An infinite number of other things could be said about it, but it can never be exhausted. It is "Tao" from Taoist philosophy. And in fact, this
subject is so incomprehensible and impenetrable even for me, I'll end this post with a reference to the Tao te Ching
and Taoism in general
for further information.. before the water gets too deep and I drown in my own words. Everything is true; nothing is true; everything is arbitrary
and known only by relation to something else, so the 1 thing can never be fully understood, as there is nothing to compare it to. Everything
belongs to it.