Your initial responses were removed for irrelevance. Try as you might, you can't make my head explode with mere sarcasm.
That sealed it, for me. Oozy, I KNOW what rock you crawled out from under. I don't know what country you live in now, but I'm willing to bet it
ain't the USA, because I'm relatively sure you're on one of those "lists" of folks that don't make it past customs without a visit to the
I live in New Zealand
Yeah sure arrest me for expressing my views, I guess freedom of speech only applies when it is on the power's side. I hope you understand that
I never said anything about arresting you for expressing your views. The implication, for those unable to catch nuances, was that you're probably on
one of the "watchlists". You don't get there by merely having unorthodox views.
Twist my words as you will, it won't change them.
US professional soldiers target MILITARY personnel, including your precious "freedom fighters". If civilians are being used as shield by your
"brave warriors", they die too.
So they say, and Al-Qaeda says they don't target civilians.
Al Qaeda No. 2: We don't kill innocents
And what about the drone attacks:
Fourteen Iraqis were reported killed and five injured early yesterday morning after an American war plane obliterated a family house in the north
of the country. The military said it was a mistake.
Were civilians being taken as human shields?
The Al Qaeda quote is misleading in extremis. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us as to who Al-Quaeda views as "innocents". See, you said
"civilians", but Zawahiri said "innocents". I already know the answer, but perhaps the others would like to learn. Straight from the horse's
mouth, as it were.
As has been mentioned before, sometimes innocents ARE accidentally killed in the fogs of war. That would be different from actually TARGETTING them,
as I've already stated. By your own admission, your "holy warriors" are killing at least 75% of the civilians killed. Those are all accidents too?
Maybe they should lay down their weapons before they "accidentally" shoot themselves, eh?
In contrast, your "holy warriors" target CIVILIANS, and if a WARRIOR is in the way, he dies too.
That is something you have to prove:
Al Qaeda No. 2: We don't kill innocents
Already answered above. I hate repeating myself.
BIG damn difference. The only military target on 9-11 was the Pentagon, and most of those fellows (but not all) are just "chairborne commandos", and
thus not much of a threat.
ATS is still cautious to blame Al-Qaeda for the attacks.
I'm not ATS, I'm ME. Yes, I blame Al-Qaeda for the attacks, since they've admitted responsibility. This issue has already been addressed in this
thread, and you have conveniently ignored it, preferring instead to keep repeating your quote from Zawahiri, as if it were some sort of objective
In the WTC, 50,000 CIVILIANS were targetted. Maybe your intel told you it was a seething nest of Rangers and Special Forces disguised as civilians,
And we are still investigating the attacks. New York citizen filled a petition you should know that
Who is this "we" you speak of? When Al-Qaeda took responsibility, that pretty much closed the case for me. No one in their right mind would accept
responsibility for that, knowing what would be coming, if they HADN'T done it.
That was a PATHETIC attempt at propaganda, accidentally targetted at an audience that is accustomed to THINKING.
Propaganda, nothing I wrong was propaganda, since you are accusing me of such you need to prove it
As you say, nothing is inherently wrong with propaganda. I tend to take issue with the blatantly FALSE variety of it, though. To be honest, I've
offered as much or more evidence as you have. Before calling me out on it, put up your own. If need be, I can track mine down and deliver much more.
Especially more than just ONE Zawahiri quote, out of context. careful what you wish for, you may get it. Then the dance is done, eh?
I'm acquainted with an older generation of mujahideen. Men with honor, unlike the current crop. I can think of NO instance in which those men
intentionally targetted civilians. Not so with your current "holy warriors".
The older generation of mujahideen served America's purpose, the new generation doesn't. That is why the propaganda against them. See it is very
simple but people seem it is complicated. How can you start an unjustified war? By demonizing your enemy, and that is what America has done. In your
head the Jihadists are some sort of demons who want to take over the world and kill who ever doesn't convert to Islam.
Perhaps so, bit from my viewpoint America served the purpose of those HONORABLE Muj, by coming to their aid when they were in dire straights. One
thing was for sure, America's purpose back then didn't involve killing off their own innocent countrymen, and neither was that the purpose of THOSE
mujahideen. As I said before, I know of NO case in which they did so.
Don't equate those mujahideen with the Taliban. You and I BOTH know they weren't the same. YOUR taliban didn't come into existence until several
years after the Soviet war.
Same for Al-Qaeda. Yes, Bin Laden WAS there, but back then there was no taliban or Al-Qaeda. To say otherwise would be a blatant lie.
THEY are cowards. THEY choose to fight those whom they hope can't fight back.
So many people call them cowards but the truth is that they are the only one fighting the worlds most powerful nation. Common, get real. Are you
living in a dream world? Not even Russia has the balls to step against the Great Almighty US.
They fight Americans when they can't find any innocents to execute. Doesn't make them particularly brave in my book.
Your fathers were MUCH better men, and I wish they had raised you better. I reckon they were too busy killing enemy SOLDIERS to give you the attention
Our fathers fought for the same cause, to get rid of foreign occupiers and their sons are doing the same thing. The only difference is that our
fathers were fighting your enemy, see at this point I could call you guys cowards for letting the mujahideen do the fighting, the same mujahideen who
are fighting America right now.
Nope. I've already been over that. it's NOT the same mujahideen as is fighting now. The older mujahideen still had their honor, or else gave a damn
good impression that they had.
Some of us DID fight there, contrary to your insinuation. Be that as it may, Afghanistan was under attack, not America, by the Soviets. Therefore the
US had no excuse to commit troops to the war. Those who did go went as private citizens, or in some cases as quiet contractors for the government. Who
do you think taught Afghans to use Stingers and such? We DID hand over a ton of money and material, without which you would now be speaking Russian
and living off borscht.
It's just hilarious how Afghanistan repaid the US for that assistance, isn't it?