NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts - revealing the unscripted truth about the Moon & E.T., page 1


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Topic started on 28-9-2009 @ 01:19 AM by easynow
new video from LunaCognita examines some of the black box recordings on the Apollo missions and the interesting conversations that the astronauts had.




In this examination into NASA's "black box" transcripts, we will look at just a few of the many interesting and revealing comments made by the astronauts throughout the Apollo program that were captured by the CSM's DSE system, as well as touch on some of the scripting protocols employed during the various TV broadcasts made from the CSM during the journey to and from the Moon and while in lunar orbit. Contrary to what many think, those TV broadcasts were in fact elegantly scripted affairs, designed to rigidly control the amount of data that we, the general public, would have available to analyze. Because of this, the DSE and DSEA internal crew conversation transcripts can provide us, in the astronauts own words, an unscripted and less-guarded insight into some of the incredible things they really witnessed during their journey to and from the Moon.

During the Apollo lunar landing program, NASA made use of two primary flight telemetry/voice recording systems aboard their spacecraft. One of these systems was inside the Command/Service Module, and the other was mounted within the Lunar Module. These two systems were known as the DSE (aboard the CSM) and the DSEA (aboard the LM). The "Data Storage Equipment" systems essentially served as Black Box cockpit voice recorders, designed to tape some of the internal conversations between the astronauts while they were out of radio contact with Mission Control in Houston. After contact was re-established during the flight, Mission Control could then dump (downlink) the recorded data from the CSM to Earth, where it would be analyzed.

Unfortunately, NASA today claims that the original DSE Black Box tapes from the Apollo missions are missing and are presumed lost. However, these DSE recordings were transcribed shortly after the contents of the tapes were originally dumped from the CSM to the Earth, and several years after the Apollo program ended, these transcripts finally were declassified and then released to the NASA archives.

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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 01:44 AM by Skeptical Ed
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Phew! I tried to give this thread a flag but I'm not familiar with how that works. Sorry.

Great thread, it should go on until Jim Oberg declares it "Baloney!"


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 05:11 AM by Zelong
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Good find easynow ,something is wrong here the AS11_CM.pdf shown is Not the same AS11_CM.pdf that we can download from Mission Transcripts

The AS11_CM.pdf shown on video:


The AS11_CM.pdf that is on the Mission Transcripts site.


The AS11_CM.pdf bottom of front page:


I'm not sure what this imply's but now the question is which one of these AS11_CM.pdf's is the Real One

Zelong.


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 07:03 AM by JimOberg
Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
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post by easynow



Phew! I tried to give this thread a flag but I'm not familiar with how that works. Sorry.

Great thread, it should go on until Jim Oberg declares it "Baloney!"


If only it were that simple.

Actually, new access to new historical records is always a good thing, even if those promoting it remain clueless about real space jargon and context. The more stuff comes out, the better, in the long run.





[edit on 28-9-2009 by JimOberg]


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 08:46 AM by threekings
Just an idea, but when they are talking about it being a 'bonfire' or 'campfire', because we are reading a transcript and aren't able to listen to the tone of their voices they could have just been making jokes between themselves.

I know if I was up their with my friends anything we saw that looked 'off' we would explain to each other with humor.

"Ah, what's that big tower down there?"
"That must be the alien defense systems"
"Really? That's big, do you think it has lasers?"
"Most definitely"

Now, reading that as a transcript might be misleading, but take those quotes and say them with a friend using heavy sarcasm and you will know what I mean.

Just like the girl in the disclosure tapes that claimed a Nasa photo developer told her "we airbrush all the moonbases out"

Who's to say that guy wasn't playing a practical joke on the new member of the team? I know if I worked there I would superimpose a base onto some of the moon pics to get a rise out of my co-workers. And if they were that gullible to believe it, I'm sure me and the rest of the people would get a good laugh during our lunch break.

"You should have seen her face when I showed her the 'moon base' pic."
"haha, you didn't really show her that did you?"
"Sure did!"
"And she believed it?"
"hahaha"

So I've created to 'transcripts here to explain some of the theories associated with the moon mysteries. Remember, most of the people that believe in stuff like this want to believe in it. And frankly, when people are that eager to believe in something it's easy to joke around with them. And it's actually quite funny.

When I was a kid, my family told me the ride at Disney World 'Body Wars' shrunk you down inside of a ship and the ship went into a person's body. There was a movie that had come out recently with the same backstory. Me being 7 or 8 years old believed that them when they said it actually shrunk you into a microscopic size. Needless to say it was running joke for the next few years that I ran out of the line because I didn't want to get shrunk down to the size of a atom.

I think about it now and it's pretty funny. Although I wish they talked me into going on the ride after they had their laugh cause it sounded pretty cool afterwards.



reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 08:47 AM by ecoparity
Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
reply to
post by easynow



Phew! I tried to give this thread a flag but I'm not familiar with how that works. Sorry.

Great thread, it should go on until Jim Oberg declares it "Baloney!"


If only it were that simple.

Actually, new access to new historical records is always a good thing, even if those promoting it remain clueless about real space jargon and context. The more stuff comes out, the better, in the long run.





[edit on 28-9-2009 by JimOberg]


What do bonfires and campfires actually refer to?

The photo anomaly of the alleged pyramid structure does make me curious after hearing the comments.

Why would NASA script the live broadcasts like that? I can certainly understand planning the subjects out according to mission progress ahead of time but using "word for word" scripts? Strange.


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 08:51 AM by threekings
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Probably scripted so it's not a bunch of
"uhhhh"
"Neil, can you pass me the socket 5 wrench"
"hmmm, we are... Where are we again, I can't read the co-ordinates."
"Buzz, did you just let one go."

They want Nasa to look professional, and if they mapped out their flightplan they simply mapped out their conversations to coincide with it.

When was the last time you were on a bus tour somewhere and the drivers speech wasn't scripted.

It doesn't actually seem that odd that it was scripted.


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 09:28 AM by SmokeJaguar67
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I followed the link you posted and I must say I downloaded it all, I just could not help myself. I'm meant to hit the gym today but something is burning at the back of my mind Read the PDFs, read em till your eyes bleed, forget the gym tonight... READ!

Such temptation should not be allowed
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