NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts - revealing the unscripted truth about the Moon & E.T., page 4
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 07:36 PM by Skeptical Ed
Originally posted by FlySolo
Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
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Ingo Swann!?


And your point is? And based on what exactly for the ridicule?


Based on what you included on your reply. There is no such thing as a "psychic." There is no such thing as "remote viewing." No one calling him/herself a "psychic" has ever come forth with a major future event complete with details. Such as the JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations. Nixon being shamed out of the White House. The 9/11 events, and Michael Jackson's "untimely" death, along with a million other things that have happened and will happen. To believe that a human can tell future events is just downright silly.

Regarding his "visions" of "Humanoids on the moon" as posted by you, nothing he says can be attributed to any special seeing as all of what he says is common romantic "knowledge" as found on a few books such as Fred Steckling's "WE DISCOVERED ALIEN BASES ON THE MOON", George Leonard's "SOMEBODY ELSE IS ON THE MOON".

If Ingo had said with confidence of something that could really be found or seen, "Look in ... crater and you'll see this and that." "Look in this maria, rille, hill, (whatever) and you'll find such and such." But no, he just says he found this or that, never giving exact locations so that anyone with a powerful enough telescope could see it from earth and verify it. If he was really legit, he would be possibly the most famous and most wealthy person on earth.

He talks a good game, that's all.


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 07:59 PM by FlySolo
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Pfft. Rubbish! All you have to say about there being no psychic abilities at all is your opinion and that's all. Your opinion. BTW, what does Michael Jackson psychics have to do with this thread? Nothing, just an obvious thwart and a quite transparent straw man argument at that.


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 09:53 PM by highlyoriginal
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Yes, but what you just posted from the pdf was blatantly a joke. Obviously we are all aware that within all the time the astronauts were away they had to joke about things - it's human nature to crack jokes at things especially when they are new and unfamiliar.

The phrases in question however, are not like what you just shared. They aren't really too far-fetched (well depending on your opinions on ET), but a bunny and a immortal chinese girl living on the moon sounds a bit, odd wouldn't you say?


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 10:14 PM by Aliensun
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Wait a minute! The use of those words, "They're mining it." is exactly what we would expect to see and eventually do on the Moon ourselves.

Those words are not of the same ilk as the astronauts throwing out rathering confusing words such as "bonfires" and "campfires." With the former we have a definite "they" doing something we would expect, "mining."

You will notice that Oberg more or less didn't touch that explanation but moved to suggest the words were a mistranscription of other, evidently more mundane words.


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 10:34 PM by Zelong
Originally posted by spikey
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They look the same to me.

The only difference is that one is a scan / copy BEFORE declassification, the other is AFTER declassification.

The addition of a line through the word 'Classified' and the extra info regarding declassification is what you'd expect, after a document has been altered to show it is no longer secret.

Quite why it would be secret in the first place is somewhat of a mystery, as they went to the moon to benefit and in the name of 'All mankind'...supposedly.


Hi spikey,the picture below is the bottom of the pages when you look at the top of the page again note the difference in size of the txt Type of "CONFIDENTIAL".



Zelong.



reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 10:40 PM by Aliensun
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Skeptical Ed: Wow! If a person has no knowledge of Remote Viewing (RV) they just might possible believe that you are an authority on the topic and take your word for it that there is no such thing.

So for those that would tend to accept his ignorant words, I suggest they read the book entitled Mind-Reach: Scientists Look at Psychic Ability as authored by Russell Targ and Dr. Harold Puthoff. They ran the original CIA's million dollar RV program at Stanford University in the mid-70s and wrote of its successes. No lesser of a person than Margaret Mead wrote the introduction. Ingo Swann's manual that he wrote for the later US army program /is/was downloadable for free. (I have a copy.) Even so Mr. Ed wants you to believe that the Army's program that went on for several years after the initial proof-of-concept experiments was all a sham or didn't really exist?

It makes me wonder about the motives of some debunkers here. Obviously, it not for the interest of truth or a lack of easily available info. Can simple ignorance be that profound?


reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 11:52 PM by Phage
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The aircraft carrier USS Hornet was the recovery vessel.
See? Little jokey comments.
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