Timewave Zero and October 26, 2009

Don't know if anyone has mentioned it but the web bot project says linguistics point to Oct. 25th or there abouts being a time when we hit a big emotional turn. URE keeps talking about it at urban survival. The web bot also talks of an attack on deep underground installation that has the unforseen results of a great explosion like a volcano and poisin being ejected into the atmosphere giving way to what it calls ill winds that kill millions. And now we hear about this new nuclear site in iran and US speeding up testing of its biggest bunker buster ever to be completed by dec. Israel is getting all itchy to pull the trigger. Everyone got gas masks and plenty of replacement cartridges?

Originally posted by 3000gt
Has anyone mentioned the moon "bombing" that's taking place on October 9th? Seems like this could have a novelty effect depending on what the results are.

It's has been mentioned, I believe and is within two weeks of the expanded novelty. At this point, I don't think anything is off the table and that is just as valid a candidate as anything else. Would you care to speculate (which is what this all really is at this point) about WHAT would make that even so novel?

Originally posted by Blaine91555

1942 1st transport of Amsterdam Jews to Westerbork
1942 Riots against Jews in Amsterdam

I only find what a previous poster posted a link to.

LINK

You mentioned I believe the transport of the Jews.

That's interesting when you consider how Americans are being treated today and the preparations that have been going on for martial law-style situations (including the swine poo checkpoints).

Like the cop and/or military dude said in one of the videos from the G-20 showing cops barging in on students in a dorm, "This is like martial law, except it's not."

Keep an eye on how citizens are treated in the upcoming months. You may have hit the nail on the head. Mistreatment and violations start out slowly and then become the norm.

reply to post by Barkster


Heh beat me to it Barkster!

Things that Clif/Webbot have said also, was that there may be some kind of attempt on the life of the POTUS and that around this time the USG would be in a state of chaos and confusion.

So we have a few things lining up:

Israel/USA gang up on Iran and attack their store of old germ bombs, sending high into the atmosphere and around the world. Big Oops Factor.

Potential attack on POTUS and ensuing chaos

ET retaliates for us bombing the moon

Not to mention, the revolts from enforced vaccinations may well have started and perhaps started to get ugly = the beginning of the second US revolution.

Death of the Dollar looking more likely, so increase in food prices and perhaps demonstrations/revolts

So here's a nice generous helping of doom for you, Plucky!

reply to post by pr0metheu5


It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all, if what we were actually staring down was enlightenment. A consciousness shift, a whole lot of people waking up at the same time. I suppose in essence, that may really be what the whole novelty thing is. We 'wake up' to something that is novel, or new to us....it doesn't mean it's a new thing or has never happened...just that we can see it now and it's something we didn't see before.

If I look it at it that way, I think of the Jews and the death camps. They were dying there quite a good while before the rest of the world really knew what was going on. The novelty is the representation of that awareness, but not the event itself.

But yeah, bunker busters, nuclear facilities, bio weapons, police state, healthcare, no retirement left....things aren't looking good, but I want enlightenment and peace instead of all that death and suffering. Maybe we can't have one without the other.

reply to post by KSPigpen


Yes Indeed Pigpen (what an avatar - brilliant)

I wish for a nice quiet few years where I can write some software, play in a band and eventually I grow old and die...

but I don't think it's gonna happen like that sadly.

there seems to be too many events on the horizon vying for my attention as to which would end in my demise... I'd rather avoid them all, to be honest, and eventually end up in a rocking chair, carving little bits of wood with a penknife..

BUT there you go! I've been avidly consuming Doom Porn for the last few years and I'm looking forward to:

Everyone around me dying
Volcanic dust covering the skies
germ dust mixed with plutonium dust getting in my nose
Solar Flares frying my eyeballs
Fire raining down from the skies
Tsunami waves wiping out everyone on the coast (hmm that is very close to here)
Viruses or vaccines killing everyone around me
or an ice age freezing us all
or pole shift
or exploding stargates
or starving to death due to one or more of the above

heck if we survive any of that lot we'll be doing all right.

reply to post by KSPigpen


Oh yes I almost forgot:

Or, we could all ascend into a 4-or 5-dimensional reality, with no more money or war. Religions and beliefs would be a thing of the past, as we all know our true history and destiny. All resources would be fairly shared and we all encounter our galactic brothers and sisters, find out they are all friendly and we live happily for ever in a galactic society of brother/sisterhood.


I would then retire to my rocking chair with some driftwood and a penknife...

Well the boy that is 6 years old from Columbia, which you might have heard about, predicted their would be an assassination attempt on Obama in Oct. A pretty chilling prophecy by some 6 year old boy known as the boy Nostradamus.

reply to post by Stargate2012


Here's a video about this 6 year old boy:

www.liveleak.com...

Originally posted by spitefulgod
Wow, more mathematical bull-ony, can you use this insightful technology to figure out what state I'm going to be in on Saturday Morning?

I would venture the guess of......."State of Discontent".

Not saying I subscribe to this theory, because at this time I don't. I do find it interesting however.


What came to my mind from your OP was the 'beginning of the end' of Nazi Germany was in late 1942.

They were defeated in Russia during late 1942 - early 1943 and were forced into retreat.

From that point on they only lost ground. And in 3 years time they were wiped off the map.

Perhaps some kind of turning point will occur that puts America on the backfoot this October? (I'm only singling out the US because of your correlation between it and Nazi Germany).

And perhaps in 3 years time (2012), their defeat will become absolute.

Just playing devil's advocate with a theory I still don't quite understand

With todays earthquake off of American Samoa I looked back to august 1942, there was several observed events which are first hand accounts only because the sensor system we use today was installed in October 1942. I am working on a graph to compare but there appears to be some semblance in the pacific ring of fire between these dates. I'll keep looking but if someone more knowledgeable can help I'd appreciate it.

Can some one please link me to more info on this whole time wave thing a ma jig? It’s very intriguing but I like to do my due diligence before I buy into things like this.

Originally posted by fooffstarr
Not saying I subscribe to this theory, because at this time I don't. I do find it interesting however.


What came to my mind from your OP was the 'beginning of the end' of Nazi Germany was in late 1942.

They were defeated in Russia during late 1942 - early 1943 and were forced into retreat.

From that point on they only lost ground. And in 3 years time they were wiped off the map.

Perhaps some kind of turning point will occur that puts America on the backfoot this October? (I'm only singling out the US because of your correlation between it and Nazi Germany).

And perhaps in 3 years time (2012), their defeat will become absolute.

Just playing devil's advocate with a theory I still don't quite understand

No problem, foofstarr.

I'm not real sure I 'subscribe' to this theory either. That's really what these examinations are about. I want to know if it's a tool we can use, or if it's just another piece of useless drivel to add to the pile. (probably chasing windmills, but somebody needs to do it. )

since before I wrote the thread on the Nazis and the U.S. I've had this really weird feeling that we are seeing the same thing play out today that they did then. That there was a dictator (in our case, either unseen, or even a collection of rulers) that made some terrible social and strategic mistakes.

What I saw from the correlation between then and now was the overextension of an empire. I saw an idealistic people, convinced they were right, due mostly to an endless stream of propaganda and fear. I saw a leader and a regime that got too convinced that they were invincible and I saw seemingly countless battlefronts and atrocities committed in the name of 'security.' ....and then I saw the U.S. today.

To be honest, I can't help but think that a major upheaval in the world today HAS to involve the United States. I struggle with the presumed arrogance of that statement, but reality would support it. It's not American arrogance, it's the reality that our hands are in everyone's pie. We have troops, intelligence agents, black ops, puppets, dollars, drugs and thugs in more countries than I even knew existed. I couldn't dream this stuff up if I tried.

Our empire is based on lies, violence and manipulation, but we hide behind some sort of strange entitlement.

When I think of Rome, France under Napoleon, Nazi Germany, I immediately correlate the 'looks' of their failures to the United States and our ambivalence towards lessons of the past.

There is no doubt in my mind that the United States will suffer due to her own self-righteousness. That pains me, because my family and friends are here.

I really hope, like I said, that if there turns out to be credence in this theory, that it points instead to enlightenment, or a peaceful shift in consciousness, but to hug THAT rainbow would make me as blind to the past as those I would I've chastised.

Thanks for your input friend. I hope we're both wrong.

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Thanks CJ. I'm looking forward to what you put together. Thanks for your contribution.

Originally posted by murfdog
Can some one please link me to more info on this whole time wave thing a ma jig? It’s very intriguing but I like to do my due diligence before I buy into things like this.

Do a search on ATS for 'Timewave Zero' there will be a few threads to catch up on. Read the stuff by Evasius, as he is the resident guru on this subject and the source of my inspiration on the subject.

When you have exhausted those threads, google 'Terrence McKenna' and 'Novelty Theory', and 'timewave zero.'

Good luck and happy hunting.

This is off topic, sorta, but I thought I would throw it in here just for funsies.

This thing is odd.

I did a search for March 11, 1960. This marked the date in which Earth took its first steps into deep space.
On the graph it shows the date, in the middle of a 20 year window to be on the upward climb following a dip that troughed at the date of July 24, 1950.

So, I decide to look up the date of THAT particular trough...
Bumper 8 launch. First launch from Cape Canaveral. It was a failure, but it was a first...
It was also related to my initial inquiry, but 10 years previous.

Very odd. I mean it isn't like I'm telling the timewave WHAT I am looking for, other than a date.

That is twice now that this has happened. If anyone missed it, I was following the link of the Jews being rounded up in 1942 last night and decided to look up the date of the roundup of the Knights Templar. Once again, this date was on the uphill from a big dip the year previous.

So I look up that date and it is the date that a French King EXPELLED the Jews from France. It was the French that began the initial roundup of Jews in 42...

In my eyes those are both some very significant synchronicities.

The more I look at this thing the more I am wondering if there is some sort of voodoo at work here.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by JayinAR]

Something else I have noticed and that I think is probably overlooked quite a bit is that these "novelty dips" while, appearing to be very similar at times, are not as severe as in times past.

So if you are looking to be able to make a prediction, lets use the roundup of Jewish people as an example, and are to say that we are looking for another roundup of people (Jewish or not), it isn't going to be like the last time.

The dips and peaks aren't near as severe as the timeline speeds up.

So instead of looking at the roundup of 12,000 people, for instance, I think you could expect to see, say, the roundup of 500 people. And the next time the same dip occurs, it will be even less.

I mean, the dips increasingly go lower until zero-date, but the cultural shock associated with them is increasingly smaller.

At least that is how I am interpreting the graph with my eyeball.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by JayinAR]

october 25 could be the global coastal event that has been brought up by a few people quite a bit. With all these earthquakes in the pacfic, and a few articles, this could happen very soon.

A 100 ft tsunami could hit the pacific northwest, caused by the CASCADIA SUBDUCTION ZONE. It has happen before...
Global Coastal Event mini Clip

Articles here:
www.seattlepi.com...


www.innovations-report.com...

[edit on 30-9-2009 by King Louie]

Well, differen't information format, but............

Based on visions from 2005, I had estimated we would see something we could not hoax away, in October this year.

I am not sure what to expect, so I am in wait and see mode.

Not the end, so not heading to the hills yet. What is comming will pass, much like bad gass, but you still have to suffer till the air clears.