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House Moves to Extend Unemployment Benefits

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posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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House Moves to Extend Unemployment Benefits


www.cnbc.com

Despite predictions the Great Recession is running out of steam, the House is taking up emergency legislation this week to help the millions of Americans who see no immediate end to their economic miseries.

A bill offered by Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., and expected to pass easily would provide 13 weeks of extended unemployment benefits for more than 300,000 jobless people who live in states with unemployment rates of at least 8.5 percent and who are scheduled to run out of benefits by the end of September.
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posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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Taking into consideration that the nation have more than 10 states that unemployment rates are well over 10 percent

the government is to increase unemployment benefits amid the recession that is hitting harder this states.

Interesting that all the government efforst to make the population beleive that the recession is over because the markets are green will to take away the fact that we are far from falling into chaos

What bothers me the most is how much importance to keep the too big to fail from crashing but nobody wants to address how to put American tax payers back to work so they can keep paying for the too big to fail.



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posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:07 PM
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More Dem self protection.
Most that would qualify, would be states that have had high unemployment before all this started a year ago.

Some of the states in the middle, that are at 6.5 to 8.4 had around less than 4.2 to start. They should be doing this across the board.
They Fed cannot choose states to hand out Fed money.

This needs to be fought.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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It is kind of an oxymoron statement at best as well.


taking up emergency legislation this week to help the millions of Americans who see no immediate end to their economic miseries.


Millions, Oh, wait.


provide 13 weeks of extended unemployment benefits for more than 300,000 jobless people


lets only cover 300 k of them.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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Oh, but we've heard that the recession is over. It ended on:

August 6
money.cnn.com...

September 2
www.dispatch.com...

September 15
www.marketwatch.com...

So why pass a bill like this? Oh, right. The recession's NOT over.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:20 PM
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I think that it is a good thing to extend Unemployment Benefits to those unwittingly hit hard in these Economic Times, but it is only a Band-aid Solution to a much bigger problem that greatly needs to be addressed...otherwise in 13 weeks, you've accomplished little to nothing to help those people.

We need initiatives to bring jobs to American citizens so that not only can they be able to get off Unemployment Insurance, but we can pull ourselves out of this Economic Downturn.

Without long-term goals and initiatives, we are just putting off the inevitable for those who would benefit from extended Unemployment.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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Actually, I do not think it is a Dems thing, its a real thing, At least in AZ,
Where in May 2007 our rate was 3.3 and in two years increased to the now 9.5

The unemployment rate here Decreased from 7.9 Jan 92 to 3.3 in 07 That's 15 years with an adjustment of percentage of 4.6 over 15 years and that was decreasing! Then in 2 years a 6.2 percentage increase..

That number is unbelievable and truly shows the state of affairs and I hope increasing benefits is not the ONLY thing the "Dems" do.

www.google.com...:ST040000&q=arizona+unemployment+rate

[edit on 21-9-2009 by ShiftTrio]

[edit on 21-9-2009 by ShiftTrio]



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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Typical government....never fix the problem just throw money at the problem.

If people get paid to stay unemployed what gives them an incentive to get a job? It's amazing how fast someone gets a job once their benefits run out.

Living in a high unemployment area? MOVE to where the jobs are! (In my best Sam Kinnison scream)



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Typical government....never fix the problem just throw money at the problem.

If people get paid to stay unemployed what gives them an incentive to get a job? It's amazing how fast someone gets a job once their benefits run out.

Living in a high unemployment area? MOVE to where the jobs are! (In my best Sam Kinnison scream)


Darn straight!

Honey, pack everything up. We're moving to India, Mexico or China...'cause that's where the jobs are!

That'll teach my employer to lay me off after outsourcing my job overseas! I'll just re-apply to get my old job back, in India!

Hey, Hesse! Where ya goin'? What ya doing crossing the border in the U.S. for? Didn't you get the memo that all the jobs are in Mexico? You better be sneaking back across the border like I am 'cause you're going the wrong way!

Maybe there is Reason behind the methods of Congress. If they don't address the real problem, lack of jobs in America, then they decrease the population of America without seeming like Tyrants, put an end to Immigration without looking like a bunch of Racists, and fix the Unemployment Crisis without doing a thing as anyone without a job will have moved to another country and become a statistic for someone else to worry about. Sounds like a Win/Win!

/end_sarcasm



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 07:14 PM
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I don't agree with throwing money at the problem, but I Do agree with people that are suffering being able to eat and feed their children, even with the meager assistance that unemployment works out to be.

Yeah, 300k is the new million... geez. Hell in a hand basket.

So, why do this instead of some other socialist program? It's my understanding that this IS sort of a socialist program, but why not make some crap up to put these people to work?

Didn't we do that with the 'new deal' stuff way back when? Public Works stuff? It makes me think they are just wanting to buy a little time.

Why waste the money on such a short-term solution if you expect to be in the game for the long haul? Smells awful fishy to me.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:00 AM
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You are mostly right. But that does not give into the fact that if you are hit hard in one state, it does not mean it's easier than another.
As far as this goes, the problem is not the how many are out, it's how many new jobs are out there.
We are at 7.1 and no jobs to be had, nothing, zip, nodda.
When they let someone go, that spot stays empty for the most part.
Even Mickey D's are cutting back hours from 24/7.

This town is the Air Capitol of the World, when Congress and everyone else opened their big mouths about private jets, 10's of thousands of jobs went down the toliet across the US. But it was hit hard here.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Typical government....never fix the problem just throw money at the problem.

If people get paid to stay unemployed what gives them an incentive to get a job? It's amazing how fast someone gets a job once their benefits run out.

Living in a high unemployment area? MOVE to where the jobs are! (In my best Sam Kinnison scream)


Really? Where would that be?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:09 AM
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Meager assistance? I have friends in CA collecting $800 every two weeks on unemployment. Being a homeless person begging for change is "meager". Collecting $1600 sitting on your phat arse every month is hardly "meager". It may not afford you living in a one bedroom apartment, cable t.v., a car, and health insurance but that's not what unemployment assistance should be about.

Either way like others have said the stupid government needs to figure out how to create jobs instead of throwing money at the problem. You know how many jobs could have been created with the billions and billions the banks received? I could think of HUNDREDS of jobs we could put people to work doing. Our infrastructure is in TERRIBLE shape.....how many construction workers and others could be put to work fixing that sector of our society? How about something as simple as picking up trash in our cities? Planting trees? Pulling weeds? Oh wait I forgot we are talking about Americans who expect to live in mansion and become millionaires by the time they are 40.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:50 AM
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The extended benefits are to help those that are to lose their benefits at the end of the month, but also it will help with extensions those that are still taking unemployment longer than September or that doesn't end in September.

Still I wish I could say that this people should be looking for jobs the problem is that their jobs are gone for good most of the jobs in the US that where created in the last ten years has been moved to oversea this jobs will never be back again.

As job creations keep coming short so is going to be too many qualify people to fill the ones available.

This figures doesn't even come close to all those millions of Americans that never qualified for unemployment benefits and are also unemployed looking for jobs that are not there.

This are actually worst that many can even imagine.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Typical government....never fix the problem just throw money at the problem.

If people get paid to stay unemployed what gives them an incentive to get a job? It's amazing how fast someone gets a job once their benefits run out.

Living in a high unemployment area? MOVE to where the jobs are! (In my best Sam Kinnison scream)


Somebody that I agree with.

***If the unemployment benefits did not exist in the first place, unemployment would not be as bad. People would find a way to make things work***

The same thing goes for welfare. I am not against helping somebody till they get back on their feet, but for the people that aren't even trying to get up and just laying there laughing and pointing. COME ON! It's ridiculous and ignorant for the rest of the population who actually work for a living to let this continue any further!

Maybe unemployment should be paid back in a minimal to zero interest loan or something once people found a job. What would people have to say to that?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Typical government....never fix the problem just throw money at the problem.

If people get paid to stay unemployed what gives them an incentive to get a job? It's amazing how fast someone gets a job once their benefits run out.

Living in a high unemployment area? MOVE to where the jobs are! (In my best Sam Kinnison scream)


Really why don't you come on up to Michigan. I used to work 40 hours a week, I now work 1 day a week. I had to move back in with my parents becaus of it. They too used to work 40 hours a week, but their hours got cut. As for getting out of the state I ask you, with what money?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by TheAntiHero420

Originally posted by RRconservative
Typical government....never fix the problem just throw money at the problem.

If people get paid to stay unemployed what gives them an incentive to get a job? It's amazing how fast someone gets a job once their benefits run out.

Living in a high unemployment area? MOVE to where the jobs are! (In my best Sam Kinnison scream)


Really why don't you come on up to Michigan.


I said move to where the jobs are....not where they aren't.

Also I heard the military will move you for free.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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Another way for the Fed to gain power. Beggars have no choice. Know what I mean?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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We are in deep trouble actually, one of the reasons for extended benefits in unemployment is too help the jobless stay in their homes, the figures of unemployment and those of foreclosures show that the more people stay unemployed and out of benefits the housing market will keep declining and banks will keep losing money.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
We are in deep trouble actually, one of the reasons for extended benefits in unemployment is too help the jobless stay in their homes, the figures of unemployment and those of foreclosures show that the more people stay unemployed and out of benefits the housing market will keep declining and banks will keep losing money.


So, what you're saying is that this is a veiled Bank Bailout.

Interesting.

Since there is a snowball's chance in Hades of another Bank Bailout getting passed without the citizens of the United States getting so embroiled with bitter anger and hostility towards their lawmakers, they move to pass an Act that will do the same thing but make it look like it is being done for the benefit of the common man.

Sneaky...and I don't think you are far off the mark on that.



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