Mad Man: Is Glenn Beck Bad for America?

Originally posted by stevegmu
Why is the left so scared and obsessed with G. Beck? Seems they are his most loyal viewers. To think any news commentator can be dangerous for America is ridiculous. This isn't Venezuela, China or Europe. Don't like something, don't watch it. You won't catch me watching MSNBC or Jon Stewart. I'm not going to cry about how how ridiculous their shows are, either. It just seems some are desperate because the change they voted for turned out to be a chump, so they continue their partisan attacks against anyone who doesn't tow the party line. Maybe they feel they have to attack someone, and direct the frustration they feel for Obama on the usual targets- Fox News and its personalities and President Bush.

So,whats europe got to do with it?

BTW you have just cried about how ridiculous MSNBC shows are by mentioning it above,dont want to cry about it dont mention it sunshine

LOL at the anti obama guys here,doesnt matter that he took over after Bush did all the damage he is having to fix now!No its all his fault
I feel sorry for all the americans out there having to share their country with these deluded selfish people posting on this site.

Carter was right on the money with many here



[edit on 18-9-2009 by noangels]

I've listened to Glen since he first started on wfla Florida station. As far as I can determine, he is just a really wired recovering alcoholic that turned to Mormonism and has been making lots of babies (and money) and doesn't sleep.

Its his way of staying sane it seems, and not falling off the wagon.

Originally posted by RUFFREADY
I've listened to Glen since he first started on wfla Florida station. As far as I can determine, he is just a really wired recovering alcoholic that turned to Mormonism and has been making lots of babies (and money) and doesn't sleep.

Its his way of staying sane it seems, and not falling off the wagon.

Having spent some time in G-d's waiting room (west Florida) I can attest to the fact it could cause one to drink and do strange things!

Originally posted by useless eaters
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

I almost never watch TV anymore. From what little I have seen of beck, I would say he is less dangerous Than someone like Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton. As far as I know Beck has not felt the need to prefixed his name as "The Reverend Glenn Beck" to make himself more credible.

That pretty much sums up my main point, most people have the ability to tune out and ignore who and what they don't agree with or has little to no value to them.

Making it seem like the man has some kind of religious like, hypnotic like sway over people to the point that he represents a danger and that he or people like him should be censored or denied the opportunity to broadcast is as dangerous a notion in my humble oppinion as what such people fear someone like Beck represents in reality or in potential.

Originally posted by kinda kurious
ON TOPIC.

Glenn Beck is a Mormon. Here are some fun facts about the Mormon Religion:

Top 10 Bizarre Mormon Beliefs

#7 MODERN REVELATION
Almost everyone who knows anything about the Mormon religion knows they have a prophet. What many don’t know, is anything that the prophet says in official capacity is considered official canon.

#8 SPIRITS
This one is very unique to the LDS faith. Basically, everyone on earth now was a spirit in the pre-existence. When we die, our spirits are separated from our bodies and if we were good they go to “spirit paradise.” If we were bad they go to “spirit prison.” The spirit world exists as a place for spirits to go while awaiting the second coming.

#9 JESUS VISITED AMERICA
The Book of Mormon is a book of LDS scripture that takes place during the same time as the Bible and takes place on the American continent. It follows the stories of two tribes who descended from the family of Lehi. After Jesus’ resurrection LDS people believe he visited the peoples of the Americas.

SOURCE

Another shoot the messenger post.

How is this "ON TOPIC"?

So, how do you react when someone posts "bizarre facts about muslims" instead of staying with the topic on threads about iran's ahmadinejad?


[edit on 9/18/2009 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by Stargate2012

Originally posted by centurion1211
Part of what political show? And your response misses my point entirely. It's the point about why you still even feel the need to "make fun of" Palin (or her family). Stick a fork in her, she's done.

You do realize there are plenty of Republicans that don't care for her right?

JHC!

I'm not a supporter, I'm just tired of seeing people like you continue to bash the woman. She's done.

Try beating your head against your desk or whatever it takes to snap out of your Palin tunnel vision and move on to dealing with current issues.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Making it seem like the man has some kind of religious like, hypnotic like sway over people to the point that he represents a danger and that he or people like him should be censored or denied the opportunity to broadcast is as dangerous a notion in my humble oppinion as what such people fear someone like Beck represents in reality or in potential.

The main problem is that Mr. Beck seems to be the type yelling "fire" in a crowded theater that might simply have the thermostat set a little uncomfortably high. Instead of appealing to the management to adjust the temperature he's advising someone else there to call the fire department to flood the place, potentially causing a short circuit.

He tries to step over the free speech line without actually quite stepping over it himself. He stands right on the harmful line signalling others across. It isn't about different views. I don't doubt his superiors understand but they just see the almighty $$ that come their way.

reply to post by djvexd
Good post. I wonder how many people took the time to read the Time article, which was definitly slanted against Beck and the citizens who came to Washington, or held rallies in their home town.
I watch Beck. I like him. So what if he hams it up and gets a little corny. Most prosfessional speakers do. A lot of folks here on ATS need to lighten up and remember how to laugh. Life is too short. Beck takes serious issues and draws attention to them by hamming it up. You groan, then, after the program you start thinking about what he said.
Then, if you have a modicum of intelligence, you research the topic yourself, rather than taking his word for it. (That goes for anything you see, hear, or read. I admire a great many talk radio people, but I don't take their word for anything. I look it up.)
And since I'm on a rant, I wonder how many people on ATS actually take the time to read books, to learn about the issues, to learn the history of how we got to where we are now, so they can consider ways to stop this forward momentum, so we can stop, take a look around and see exactly where we are? I mean no offense to ATS'ers, I'm just wondering.

Originally posted by noangels


LOL at the anti obama guys here,doesnt matter that he took over after Bush did all the damage he is having to fix now!No its all his fault
I feel sorry for all the americans out there having to share their country with these deluded selfish people posting on this site.

Carter was right on the money with many here

[edit on 18-9-2009 by noangels]

Yeah Obama is trying to fix what George Bush Srewed up like he would try to save a man drowning putting a milstone around the guys neck after painting the words "life Preserver" on it.

It depends on how long it takes before you realize the cab driver you just got done telling where you want to go ays ok and starts driving down streets that don't go there.

You start sayin "this is the wrong way" Cab driver says, he knows a new way we can all believe in and you accept the change in direction.

But he keeps making more and more of the same kinds of changes in direction and they are only getting you further from where you need to go.

At this point, if you don't put your foot down and get the hell out of the car, you're going to end up where you're headed.

If it take 20 mins to get to your destination and the place the cab driver is taking you to only takes 10 mins to kidnap and hold you there. You can wait the whole twenty mins to see if it happens but you'll be ten mins too late. Where Obama is taking us he is taking us fast and I don't recognize the sign posts cuz I can't read russian

Originally posted by noangels

Originally posted by stevegmu
Why is the left so scared and obsessed with G. Beck? Seems they are his most loyal viewers. To think any news commentator can be dangerous for America is ridiculous. This isn't Venezuela, China or Europe. Don't like something, don't watch it. You won't catch me watching MSNBC or Jon Stewart. I'm not going to cry about how how ridiculous their shows are, either. It just seems some are desperate because the change they voted for turned out to be a chump, so they continue their partisan attacks against anyone who doesn't tow the party line. Maybe they feel they have to attack someone, and direct the frustration they feel for Obama on the usual targets- Fox News and its personalities and President Bush.

So,whats europe got to do with it?

Many people from Europe like to stick their noses in our business just the same way you think we do yours.

BTW you have just cried about how ridiculous MSNBC shows are by mentioning it above,dont want to cry about it dont mention it sunshine

Let's talk about what's going on in the UK for laughs ... Michael Savage banned for example.

LOL at the anti obama guys here,doesnt matter that he took over after Bush did all the damage he is having to fix now!No its all his fault
I feel sorry for all the americans out there having to share their country with these deluded selfish people posting on this site.

Fix your own messes in the UK, then come talk to or about us. You can start with the nanny state with government monitored cameras even forced into people's houses, sharia law, weapons bans, kicking your elderly to the curb under NHS, soccer hooliganism, etc., etc.

Carter was right on the money with many here[edit on 18-9-2009 by noangels]

And that comment just shot your last bit of credibility to hell. I wonder exactly how many "there" would actually appreciate you lumping them in with that tiny group of people that doesn't realize that carter is nothing more than a senile old fool?

Originally posted by centurion1211
Let's talk about what's going on in the UK for laughs ... Michael Savage banned for example.

OK. I'll bite. I think they've made a wise decision. He is a hate mongering bigot.

"Coming to this country is a privilege. If you can't live by the rules that we live by, the standards and the values that we live by, we should exclude you from this country and, what's more, now we will make public those people that we have excluded.”

www.independent.co.uk...

"Get Aids and die, you pig," the American radio "shock jock" told a purportedly homosexual man who once badmouthed his teeth......He has plenty more vitriol to go around. Latinos "breed like rabbits" , Muslims "need deporting" and as for autistic children, "in 99 per cent of cases it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out".

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Right-wing radio host Michael Savage is among 16 people who have been barred by the British Home Office from entering the United Kingdom of the last seven months, the British Home Office said Tuesday. The list also includes Islamic extremist clerics, Russian skinhead leaders; Neo-Nazis, a Hamas murderer, a Jewish extremist and Rev. Fred Phelps, who claims the deaths of U.S. soldiers are a punishment for tolerance of homosexuality.

www.drudge.com...

Good for them. I wonder if they'll add Mr. Beck to the list.

One can only hope. GOD save the Queen!

Here is what I would say to him and those like him.

The price you pay. If you could only see what I see.

Do you know the feeling that you get when look at ads or things they show from the times of slavery in America (slave for sale, must be returned to owner, etc.)? When you see things about endentured labor taken from Europe, kidnapped from their families? The Nazi propaganda machine during WWII and how they portrayed the Jews, talked about them, hated them and publicly and openly defamed them? All these can be put in a history book. Let's say for example, the age of nationalism, the age of liberalism, the age of imperialism, now I'll tell you about the age that's here, the next chapter in the history book-- the age of extremism and radicalism.

Like every good age in history has to have its leading men, the bad guys, the ones our children and grandchilren will point at and say, "See how it used to be?"

Can you believe that? Let's hope it never happens again. Just like your Neros, your Hitlers, and of course every jump in evolution has its Roman Colusseum and of course the kinder, nicer and more evolved get thrown to the lions at the order of the bad guys.

Now, what is the price you pay to be the bad guy? If you only knew that forever in history you were going to be labelled and looked at as a freak act, would you do it? If your descendants will remember you as one of the bad guys, as the example of everything that was wrong with the world at a particular time, would you do it? For what? For the money? For the fame? For a group? For a people? For a country?

You know that all of the above will deny you as part of them. You know they will say, "He wasn't one of us."

You know they will say, "He was a bad apple. You can't judge us by him."

So you know you don't belong anywhere. You know you're not loved by anybody. You know you hate and you will forever be hated. So why do you do it?

There might be one exception why and if this is so, then you will be remembered as a hero.

Is it that you don't really mean it? You are doing it so people wake up? So that people see what they look like when they're racist haters? Are you just making the other side wake up and take action so they can change things? Are you bringing light to things that are hidden? Are you doing it with good intentions? Are you pushing right to go left?

Good intentions are everything and if these people are really doing something to try to change the system so that there is no more racism, so that there are no more wars, so that there is no more hate, so that there is no more inequality, then be assured that you will be remembered in a good light and people will thank you for your sacrifice. It won't be forgotten.

But if you really believe everything you're preaching, all the things you say, be certain that you will regret it. Because when all the hype is done and all the smoke is cleared and men live in peace, in utopia the only thing that will remain is the memory of one more bad man in a dark age.

FOX News could be a collection library to make sure all these thing are all cataloged and preserved for posterity (File 1: Confederate army talk 1, Confederate army talk 2; File 2: Confessions of a slave trader galore (pictures and video running 24 hrs for viewing for generations to come)).

Do you want to be part of that? The Horrors of Racism in America starring so-and-so. Warning: Explicit, disgusting, humiliating displays of hatred and all of those other things we don't practice any more.

The best advice I can give is just walk away and stop doing it. It's just like a drug. Stop!

reply to post by Bernard the Monk


what are you talking about? glenn beck is an entertainer who's schtick is news. he's not a world leader, elected official, or even czar appointed by the president. he's just a guy who presents news in an entertaining way, and the news he chooses to presents happens to be about political matters that no one else dares talk about.

he isn't a villain. you don't even have to watch him. the fact that people do watch him simply indicates that people do want the information about people in the government. he often plays clips of them talking about what they care about. the "smears" are their own words. what's so terrible and villainous about that? i really don't believe he will go down in history next to hitler.

do you honestly believe that you need to be protected from information that might upset or infuriate you? many of us don't feel that way. if you listen to the information and decide it doesn't matter, that obama's agenda is what's important, then fine. that's your coice.

there is an extremely simple solution for you and all who don't like what beck has to say: DON'T WATCH THE SHOW. switch the channel. watch cartoons or soap operas or another news channl that suits you. glenn beck is not a problem.

funny that more and more people are finding that they do want to know, and turning to Fox News. but you dn't have to do that. you can choose not to know

Beck is obviously effective, look at all the liberals on this thread that are freaked out over this entertainer. The real reason 70000+ showed up in DC is not because of Glenn Beck, it is because common American folks don't like the socialist direction Obama is taking.

reply to post by earlywatcher


He's not a man a man of peace. He talks hatred. He's not a man of peace like Joseph Smith and Smith would be turning in his grave right now knowing that a man like that is representing the Mormon Church, giving it a bad name and you know it.

Joseph Smith said this church will be big enough to fill North America, South America and the world. He didn't say it would be used to amuse a bunch of hate mongerers for an hour every day.

reply to post by Bernard the Monk


I disagree. He's not a man of hate. He is a concerned citizen who offers something that more and more people choose to listen to. He is concerned for specific reasons, and he backs these concerns up with facts and guests.

bottom line is, if his message wasn't getting through, he wouldn't have viewers. look at how many other shows are tanking, both commentators and attempted amusement on the broadcast channels.

if you support obama's regime and want his agenda to go forward at all costs (and there are plenty) then i can see why you fear beck and dread the asking of questions about the fraud and scofflaws that make up the current group of lawmakers and their cronies. life is more peaceful if nobody objects. but to object by asking questions and explaining why you are worried is NOT hate.

glenn beck certainly does not represent the mormon church. i did not even know he is mormon until this time article came under discussion. his religion is irrelevant to the content of his show. he does not preach. he does not praise or criticize the mormon church, as far as i can tell. he does not proselytize on behalf of the church, so whether those pews are empty or full has nothing to do with him.

reply to post by Bernard the Monk



I only wish you had used the word to describe the utopia you believe is what the "others like yourself think is what we ll want"

I wouldnt have wasted so much time reading the rest.

Originally posted by Bernard the Monk
reply to post by earlywatcher

 

He's not a man a man of peace. He talks hatred. He's not a man of peace like Joseph Smith and Smith would be turning in his grave right now knowing that a man like that is representing the Mormon Church, giving it a bad name and you know it.

Joseph Smith said this church will be big enough to fill North America, South America and the world. He didn't say it would be used to amuse a bunch of hate mongerers for an hour every day.

Dude, their are MILLIONS of people out there that think Joseph Smith gives CHRISTIANITY a bad name! So what harm Glen Beck has caused with the cult is Irrelevant, the issues he talks about concern more than his mormon peers and I don't hold his being a mormon against him. I have never met a Christian that was was a "good enough" one for anyone else. Seems so many here like to say what bad examples this one is, that one is, etc,. Usually, we hear this kind of thing from atheist's, gays, and I wonder if that is the reason they aren't one too. Because they don't want to be a bad example of a Christian so rather than try some great and save your soul, they woulod rather given in to temtation call it a lifestyle an succeed. Nothing like a sin you can be great at.

I wouldn't worry about old Glen Beck, I worry more about people like you that are skeeeered of him.

It tells me you think we give him as much credibilty to change us as that I would have to think he is as powerful as YOU obviously think he is.

Just because he can talk YOU into doing hateful things doesn't mean he can me. You got him so dangerous if he started telling us all to kill everyone tommorrow you'd leave town?

[edit on 19-9-2009 by Stylez]

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


no he is not bad for america...in fact keep him going, the longer he stays on TV and the nuttier he is, the longer democrats will be seen as the grown-ups and elected to office. this is good for the american people.

[edit on 19-9-2009 by jimmyx]

reply to post by jimmyx


this is sarcasm, right? the dems are currently NOT acting like grownups (nor are the republicans.) every one of them up for reelection in 2010 is scared silly because we've seen them for what they are. they've played this good thug/bad thug game for so long with the two main political parties that people are stuck, but i think all incumbents are in danger of getting voted out in the next election.