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Originally posted by KOGDOG
The elements of my last post could never even remotely suggest what you believe were my intentions for quoting Eze 16:3.
Honesty really is the BEST policy when interpreting "Scripture". You might find that not everyone is "out to get you".
I will agree with part of the above...
"Education" has little to do with "insight" and "love".
Cain found a wife from a different "bloodline".
It is "The Blood" that determines one's destiny.
Another fun dose of "metaphor/symbolism"........ right????
And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
Originally posted by gerg357
Some people believe that cain was actually the first vampire.
Thier proof was first him killing able. This was considered a lust for blood.
I absolutely agree that honesty is the best policy when it comes to deciphering the Scriptures. Given that the writers were Jewish, wouldn't a Jewess be more privy to the mindset of the Jews? Yes!
As for the "out to get you" comment, it is clear that you have issues with us. I have not been unkind to you at all and yet, you have shown much contempt for me and even you are disregarding the viewpoint of one of the People in whom these writings came from. Why is that?
Love is not the cornerstone of Judaism since it is an emotion that is both subjective and reliant upon present circumstances. Intellect is the cornerstone of Judaism. Education has EVERYTHING to do with the insight of our Scriptures.
I do not see mysticism in the Tanakh .. and thus read much of it metaphorically...
Wait... OK... I remember you now.
Didn't you once comment on.... Mat 15:22-28
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
Didn't you interpret this "lesson" as degrading and insulting if not outright cruel on the part of Yeshua and how He spoke to this poor woman????
If I remember correctly I stated that this lesson was a statement of respect by Gentiles for the Hebrews who have suffered and worked in service to YAHWEH.
Didn't you then also claim your Jewish ethnicity with regard to interpreting "scripture" correctly???
I asked.... "How is it then that you a Hebrew did not understand the lesson?"
I might ask the same question now.
BTW... I a "Gentile" did not take offense at the above lesson...
That is why I took the name KOGDOG....
Interesting that you capitalized "People".
That is what I meant with my hope for "honesty" from you. Finally!
My "issues" are centered on interpretation and implementation of scripture.
I have no "contempt" for you or any other "Child of God". Problems lie within how we determine who is "friend" and who is "foe".
I always... or usually write "Love/Logic". Love = Logic. Love is not an emotion. Love is what works. Examine all "Scripture" knowing that YAHWEH is "Holy/Logical" and there will be little to zero problems with such versus as Eze 16:3. Which BTW I believe you still do not understand... and assuming that I know... will not say.
First of all, I have no evidence to say I am Hebrew. Definitely Scotts/Irish.... but Hebrew? not that I am aware of. I am a Jewess though. You mistake this to be about race. The Jewish People are no longer in a tribal system in the way we were prior to now. Our bloodline has been scattered into the genepools of the nations and thus.. for all you know, you have the blood of the People in you... just not the underrstanding of the Mind of the People.
That you don't get offended is great. But we can all read what happened there. Jesus was ready to dismiss her despite her desperate sobs except that the disciples were becoming annoyed.
That you might not feel offended is most likely do to your own pride because if you were being honest, you would not attempt to imply excuses on his behalf and rather go by what is written there. Jesus had issues with those who were not of his own ppl, clearly .. unless of course they were in power (of course, in that case, by what it is written, it does appear that he a good back up plan going for his escape from the cross ... referring to the Roman guard he befriended so quickly, of course).
I am having a difficult time understanding you considering the spectacles you are reading through are jealousy. I can't for the life of me figure out why you are attempting a character assassination because I capitalized the "P" in People. I capitalize the "N" in Nature; the "R" in Reason; and the "G" in God... does that give you more ammunition to use against me?
Just curious so as not to repeat the offenses. Go... oops! sorry.. **g**od forbid I hurt your feelings by capitalizing another letter.
Seriously ... you are becoming ridiculous now for a reason I can not find.
Love is an emotion and has nothing to do with logic. Sorry .. that is one of the biggest misconceptions the Gentile writers of the NT made when trying to mooch off of the Tanakh... it is little wonder that a Jew would not fall for such emotional manipulation given that the Tanakh is concerned with the Mind! then, the seat of emotions (the heart) is merely a tool to know oneself and ultimately each other.
And A’Dam lived an hundred and thirty years, (130 years old)
and begat a son in his own likeness after his image;
and called his name Seth:
And the days of A’Dam after he begat Seth
were eight hundred years: (800 years)
and he begat sons and daughters.
and he begat sons and daughters.
and he begat sons and daughters.