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What is the true story of Genesis and why was Lilith conveniently left out???

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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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And most important of all, when we read about and learn to know the Enemy, whose no longer Enemy of God (Sataniel) but simply Satan, The Enemy, and his counterpart's bloodline (the line of the sons of JHVH, Cain and the firstborn among his descendants), is that we must Love eachother, and perhaps most of all, love our enemy, even The Enemy. If the truth is that Msja' Jesju broke several of the commandments, and especially oral Talmoudian "law" narrowing the already narrow and bumpy road of the Torah, well, then it is the truth, and atleast I'd say it was unfair to judge him like they did, just because of things that happened during his childhood, and the fact that he was a third generation immigrant and the son of a father who denied to have anything to do with the child. The word on the street was that Jesju was a possessed Samaritan, and the son of an adulterous woman, since he was born out of wedlock. This may verywell have been the reason the Jewish establishment found it blasphemous that he claimed to be a son of God, since they didn't concider him Jewish.

Ref: John 8:48 and Deuteronomy 14:1




posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
If the truth is that Msja' Jesju broke several of the commandments, and especially oral Talmoudian "law" narrowing the already narrow and bumpy road of the Torah, well, then it is the truth, and atleast I'd say it was unfair to judge him like they did, just because of things that happened during his childhood, and the fact that he was a third generation immigrant and the son of a father who denied to have anything to do with the child. The word on the street was that Jesju was a possessed Samaritan, and the son of an adulterous woman, since he was born out of wedlock. This may verywell have been the reason the Jewish establishment found it blasphemous that he claimed to be a son of God, since they didn't concider him Jewish.

Ref: John 8:48 and Deuteronomy 14:1


For the record, the Torah is not narrow .. it has been misrepresented by Christians. The Laws given by Moses were to the Jews. Genesis 9 is the covenant between mankind and God in the eyes of the Jews .. that means that we believe Gentiles are perfectly capable of coming up with their OWN writings and Laws of justice (or we had at least tried to credit you all with that wisdom). The Torah and the rest of the Tanakh were specifically for the Jewish People.

We all die and after death there is nothing. This is why the Tanakh repeatedly states that God is not a respector of persons.


Jesus knew this as did the other Jewish of the time. They were fighting the imposition of others on their way to worship.

And that it is attributed to Jesus what is said in Matthew 12:7 only shows that he had full understanding and agreed with the Torah as well as with the testimonies since both of these validate this concept. Also, that he agreed with the Torah is confirmed in Matthew 5:17-19.

It was not a practice of the Jews to sacrifice men to their God. That was a practice of the nations around them.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by justamomma]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by justamomma
For the record, the Torah is not narrow ..


Yes it is.

Matthew 7:13: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Noone has yet, still been able to live wholeheartedly by the law without breaking (or sinning against) it. There have been many just and rightious Hebrews and other people, though, but they would all have to confess their sins before the One Lord of the Shining Ones. We are all sinners. Jesju included. The thing with Jesju, though is that he COMPLETED the law, by adding his simple contribution: You shall love one another. But he would still at some point have to explain himself about why he brought shame uppon his mother and family, saying they were not his true family (Matt 12:46ff, Mark3:31ff and Luke 8:19ff). He would also have to explain a minor thing like why he stole a parked donkey around Passover, 30 AD. Another thing would be to have an explanation as to why destroying a sand castle should be punnished by death, if the story is true, that is (According to apocryphal writings Jesju killed the son of Annas the Scribe when he was a young lad. And how making his alef-bet teacher disabled just because he wanted to go from the letter alef to bet too soon accorsing to young Jesju's ideas of how to teach the alef-bet.


The Torah and the rest of the Tanakh were specifically for the Jewish People.


Jesju tells us it's essencial to observe, live by and teach the Torah in order to gain entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven. He also says that unless we practice the Law atleast as just and rightious as the Pharicees (who were extremely Law abiding), and if we had managed that, we must sell everything we own to enter God's kingdom. I'd say the way of Jesju is even narrower than the Torah. He would also have to wxplain himself regarding him calling the family and friend of a mourning man dead and lure him into following him and his pack instead of showing his dad the last respect and to another guy that he shouldn't tell his family that he was going to be out in a boat an especially stormy night, and how Jesju in this portion of the Gospel tempts God in the most obvious manner (Matt 8:18ff, Luke 9:57ff), and there is much more. Still, none of these crimes against his own law, should result in or justify execution, given the appropriate contexts, and referances.


We all die and after death there is nothing. This is why the Tanakh repeatedly states that God is not a respector of persons.


Jesus knew this as did the other Jewish of the time. They were fighting the imposition of others on their way to worship.


Jesju, like the Pharicees and many of his counterparts, except for the Saduchees and a few other sects and political parties, believed in the ressurection of the dead and a final judgement, and even a second death.


And that it is attributed to Jesus what is said in Matthew 12:7 only shows that he had full understanding and agreed with the Torah as well as with the testimonies since both of these validate this concept. Also, that he agreed with the Torah is confirmed in Matthew 5:17-19.


This following point may not be adressed to you personally, but to all Christians who claim Jesju (or 616: "Jesus") had to die for our sins, and that the Gospel says he did. BUT: What kind of rightiousness and mercy do you show when you sum up using the prophecy of Jesju and the Law he was under, that he had to die for your sins, so you can live forever in eternal bliss? Why would Jesju have to die for our sins?


It was not a practice of the Jews to sacrifice men to their God. That was a practice of the nations around them.


Certain people back then were members of Moloch cults, who demanded human sacrifice. Many of these were Jews or Hebrews otherwise.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic

Originally posted by justamomma
For the record, the Torah is not narrow ..


Yes it is.

Matthew 7:13: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.


Given that Jesus only was calling to the house of Israel, it means that few are willing to except the covenant of the People.


Noone has yet, still been able to live wholeheartedly by the law without breaking (or sinning against) it.


Yes there has and are those who successfully live by it. Listen, let's take a common law here in America. Say you are driving over the speed limit .. you get fined. If you pay the fine, you have fulfilled the conditions of the Law so as to be restored to the status of law abider. Same thing with the Laws given to the Jewish. Most focus only on what they are told and don't take time to understand it ... there are ways to make restoration for the commands broken. And the way the judgments are set up, they are meant to teach... to make one wise.



There have been many just and rightious Hebrews and other people, though, but they would all have to confess their sins before the One Lord of the Shining Ones.


Well, I don't know what you mean by the "shining ones" but true ... if you confess and accept the judgment, you are still abiding by the Law.


We are all sinners. Jesju included.


Well, if I could hug you for your common sense here, I would.



The thing with Jesju, though is that he COMPLETED the law, by adding his simple contribution: You shall love one another. But he would still at some point have to explain himself about why he brought shame uppon his mother and family, saying they were not his true family (Matt 12:46ff, Mark3:31ff and Luke 8:19ff). He would also have to explain a minor thing like why he stole a parked donkey around Passover, 30 AD. Another thing would be to have an explanation as to why destroying a sand castle should be punnished by death, if the story is true, that is (According to apocryphal writings Jesju killed the son of Annas the Scribe when he was a young lad. And how making his alef-bet teacher disabled just because he wanted to go from the letter alef to bet too soon accorsing to young Jesju's ideas of how to teach the alef-bet.


WOW! I am really impressed. Most choose to ignore these parts of the NT. If Jesus wasn't a liar by saying he fulfilled the Law (Matthew 5:17) then we must assume that Jesus made restitution by accepting the judgments. Otherwise, these are very good examples of the inconsistency of the Christian doctrine.

All in all, the point is .. we were created human. Without these (what we label) mistakes, we would not learn. In essence, we would be robots. This is why the "grace for grace" that is talked about in John and what Jesus meant by pointing out what is said in the Tanakh .. that God desires mercy over sacrifice .. that we should not condemn the guiltless. Non-belief in a man as God is not a sin. In fact, non belief in God is not a sin worthy of condemnation. Truth doesn't require faith to still be truth.



Jesju tells us it's essencial to observe, live by and teach the Torah in order to gain entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven. He also says that unless we practice the Law atleast as just and rightious as the Pharicees (who were extremely Law abiding), and if we had managed that, we must sell everything we own to enter God's kingdom.


Agreed ... but a Gentile is not made righteous by obeying the Laws given to the Jewish. Their commands are touched upon in Genesis 9 .. 7 common sense commands that merely separate man from the animals. Obey these (which again, most do in all honesty), you are considered righteous.

Jesus' main focus though was to the Jews and to the house of Israel. Thus why he emphasized on the Laws given to the Israel, the People.

Still, there is much wisdom to learn from our Laws for those willing to look at them and understand them. Just most are made to feel guilty before they even study them .. thus, they assume they ARE guilty already. This is not necessarily true. A Gentile is free to learn from the Laws without the condemnation that is through the Law. That only comes if a Gentile decides to accept the covenant. We are not a barbaric or unfair People.




I'd say the way of Jesju is even narrower than the Torah. He would also have to wxplain himself regarding him calling the family and friend of a mourning man dead and lure him into following him and his pack instead of showing his dad the last respect and to another guy that he shouldn't tell his family that he was going to be out in a boat an especially stormy night, and how Jesju in this portion of the Gospel tempts God in the most obvious manner (Matt 8:18ff, Luke 9:57ff), and there is much more. Still, none of these crimes against his own law, should result in or justify execution, given the appropriate contexts, and referances.


You are correct that Jesus had a narrower view of the Law ... but he was merely trying to set up fences around the Law to prevent his own from breaking the commands. Personally, I don't think that it is wise he did this because it gave a misconception about the Laws. No where in our Laws will you find condemnation for natural human behaviour such as thinking on another to lust after them. That is something that is natural. Thoughts aren't sin.


Jesju, like the Pharicees and many of his counterparts, except for the Saduchees and a few other sects and political parties, believed in the ressurection of the dead and a final judgement, and even a second death.


The Pharisees believed in the two different resurrections as seen in Acts. They believed in the one where the ignorant become aware and then, of the People back to their land. Jesus believed this as well as is evident in Mark 12. If you read it carefully with understanding of the Tanakh, this much is obvious.


This following point may not be adressed to you personally, but to all Christians who claim Jesju (or 616: "Jesus") had to die for our sins, and that the Gospel says he did. BUT: What kind of rightiousness and mercy do you show when you sum up using the prophecy of Jesju and the Law he was under, that he had to die for your sins, so you can live forever in eternal bliss? Why would Jesju have to die for our sins?


I am enjoying your insights. You are correct again to ask such questions. The Torah and the rest of the Tanakh say explicitly that one man cannot die for another's sins. Ezekiel 18 does well to explain this. It sounds barbaric to me that so many find the sacrifice of a Jew to their god a proper atonement for sin.



Certain people back then were members of Moloch cults, who demanded human sacrifice. Many of these were Jews or Hebrews otherwise.


This is much like the Jews for Jesus crowd .. I Kings 18 is where Elijah deals with such who were calling themselves Jews (perhaps, Jews for Baal). Just because one is born Jew does not mean that keep their Jewishness no matter what. And the truth of the matter is, a person converted to judaism because of understanding is often more of a Jew than most.

Jewish is not a race as most assume, it is a religion (though one that some are born into).


Anyway .. thanks for sharing your thoughts. I have enjoyed reading them.


[edit on 29-9-2009 by justamomma]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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Well, what can I say? I have been following discussions here on ATS to and fro since it's early days. It's not often these days that I come accross positive responce and constructive critique, instead of fighting lost causes on behalf of dead power hungry tyrants from Rome. The fact that Jesju says he has come only to the children of israel in the symbol of food, and concider a certain foreigner an unworthy dog(!) and refuse to heal her daughter. She is obviously hurt by this, but she is rather quickheaded, so she humbles herself and with a kind of fearless last chance challenge Jesju's mercy asking for the crumbs that would fall uppon the table. And this is the only time in the whole Gospel where Jesju changes his mind and something happens making the wise mother's daughter well. Perhaps he gives her some of the herbs, oils and potions he used to heal the sick with. There are no miracles, only unwritten explanations.



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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Hi Jinx,

I am supposed to be doing something completely different to this but i find it very interesting when someone starts asking the 'Lilith' question...

If you want modern day proof that the story of Lilith is still alive and kicking then i would say go to st mary's cathedral in sydney, Australia, then enter the crypt.

There is a large cross on the floor depicting the story of creation. One of these little works of art is the garden of eden and there are 3 figures present. 1 male and 2 females...

So either there were multiple women in Eden or god is a female =P

This is NOT a mistake and not due to artistic flair (as ive been told) but due to people WANTING it there!

I'm sure you could get your hands on some photos to prove it.

Also alot of the church leaders who are buried there have the knights templar cross on their stone coffins. Just a random fact!

Any other questions ask away, i'd be happy to lend my expertise in this area champ!



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:49 PM
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Everything we have written about Lilit is based of ancient and diverse and often conflicting oral traditions and the stories were often "produced" within a kind of system where things like technology and wisdom should be hidden, but present.... The stories of Lilit: She was the first woman Adam had sex with, and some say they have children too with Adam, others cound the Tree of knowledge like a sexual intercourse, where Lilit planned to say "got ya!" to Adam through dominating Shavah in an intecourse where Cain was the result. Some say the purpose of the union of Lilit and Adam was to bring forth a new wing of angels. But what we do know is that Cain and his tree became the sons of YHWH. Cain was also said to have many androgynous descendants, and that if a heshe was born they were often very "good" or "decent" people doing less of the things the Kenites were more known for, weapons, technology, buildings, royalty, wisdom and building cities, trade etc. the masculine principle but more writing, teaching, healing, art, religion, law etc. the feminine principle.

Adam and Lilit wre in love. The story goes that it was only sex with them in the beginning and the children that was the result were brought up by angels, not themselves, and given away in marriage to the best of the other peoples God had made appart from Adam (white) and Lilit (red) which was probably important in order not to judge close relation unions later on, but they changed uppon being the dominant part. They are said to have had five sons, all androgynous like themselves, one white, one black, one red, one yellow and one tanned (the golden one). Adam saw that the children he had carried forth looked more like lilith, and he saw that the children Lilit had carried looked more like him. After he realised this Adam refused to be the dominated part any longer, he always wanted to domnate and be the ejaculating part, and Lilit in turn grew bored, thought of finding other lovers and so on. Until it actually happened and Adam was left alone.

This is where Adam cries on God's shoulder and says (...he is lonely and appart from the ones already taken...) he can't find his like. And God having spied on Adam and Lilit quite some time and knowing LOVE, he figured Adam had found he was more male than female, and he had more masculine features, unlike Lilit who was very feminine looking, and with a slight reddish rosy tan and blue eyes, unlike Adam who had green eyes and pale skin like his temple's Architect and anti-self, God.

To make a long story short, God had figured the union with Lilit was over, that there was no way back, and that Adam had problems with his androgynous nature. God had a walk with Adam, explaining the facts of life and how being angelic, above the usual nature where life was divided in two, that in order to be like Adam and the gods were back then, one would have to bring in a couple. Like if Adam was a bow made of the core wood of a great tree, while the "regular" (in our sense) sapiens' who lived in the world were split bows. At this time Adam had given name to every living thing in Eden and created a simple language based on the names of stars and angels etc. and the sounds of the language God had taught him, the names of plants, animals, fish, birds, insects, places and so on. God saw he was ready to aquire REAL knowledge.

Adam was put here to become a god and to cultivate this terretrial biotop in time, leaving it better shaped than when he inherited it. This is probably the reason behind the age old principles that the gods stay in heaven the humans stay on earth, we don't mix... This is our's, the Earth belongs to Adam and his descendants. Leave us with it!

Well, anyway, God puts Adam into deep sleep, he takes out an egg from Adam (Tsela[heb] = Cella[lat] = cell[eng]) and close up Adam's reproductive organ - down there - with flesh. God then firtilises the egg with his own semen and builds Shavah, our Eve, and her genetic makeup is locked at female, Adam is locked in the male gear. Like if he split the original Adam in two like a bowmaker splits the wood, how the stonecutter splits the rock and how just about all life we know is based on symmetry.

Take a face for instance. Open a picture of yourself in Photoshop split it along the vertical middle and mirror them, so you get two pictures, one with two rights and one with two lefts. The more these two pictures look alike, the greater chance you are probably "goodlooking". We are slaves of phi, pi and symetry basically when we choose a spouse. Personality, intelligence or wisdom has just about nothing to say in our choice of partners.

When Adam woke up, he woke up beside a fully grown, naked woman, whom he straight away fell in love with. The story goes this is why men always have an erection when we wake up in the morning, since Adam woke up beside the most beautiful thing God had yet to made. Adam tried and tried to lure her into having sex with him, but she was unknowing, and like virgins today, she thought of such as icky and didn't really see the point in it. They were naked, for everyone were naked in Eden, except God and his workers. Here the story splits in many rivers. One says Adam went to God, another that Adam went to Lilit, to make a deal, others vary over coincidences, but this is where my reply should really have started had you all had the background....

They are gathered in the center of Eden, where the source of the four rivers is, and the Tree of Knowledge and (which is?) also the Tree of Life. Lilit had put a spell on a wormand stood by the foot of the Tree. Adam and Eve came over, Eve was scared, but intrigued.

"So this is the tree we are not supposed to eat from, Adam?"
"Yes this is it, Shavah"

They came over and Lilit asked them to look at something: A worm was eating from the fruit of the tree. And Lilit spake:

"When this blind worm eats from this tree, it can see like we can and understand what world it lives in, what colours is and what depth, height and length is. When we eat from it, we see like the gods see, we understand like the gods understand, we see everything and can create our own worlds."

Lilit took a bite and handed the fruit over to Shavah. Intimidated by how Lilit had explained it she ate. But nothing happened.

"What am I supposed to see? I don't see anything new!" Shavah said.

Lilit came over, and asked Eve to look up into the sky, where the moon and the stars started shining as the Sun had fallen, which she did. Lilit started telling Eve an incredibly startling story and while she spoke, she started making love with Eve. Remember that Lilith is 50/50 male/female. When Eve realise what is going on she feels ashamed, but Lilit ejaculates into Shavah. After her, Adam has sex with Shevah. Somehow, Eve conceives two children that evening. One of Adam's seed and one of Lilit's. One was going to be called Cain, the other Abel, two egged twins. Cain killed Abel and moved to India, where he founded Hinduism and made the first city in the Indus valley. The name was Hanok.

If you are a man and have a hard time believing Adam was a hermafrodite, take a mirror and look at the area between your rectum and scrotum. It seams we were made like women, only sewn shut, doesn't it?



posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by justamomma
For the record, the Torah is not narrow .. it has been misrepresented by Christians. The Laws given by Moses were to the Jews. Genesis 9 is the covenant between mankind and God in the eyes of the Jews .. that means that we believe Gentiles are perfectly capable of coming up with their OWN writings and Laws of justice (or we had at least tried to credit you all with that wisdom). The Torah and the rest of the Tanakh were specifically for the Jewish People.


Well, that is not exactly right.

The law was given to Moses, who led the House of ISRAEL out of Eygpt. Moses did not take only those who decended from Judah, but also the other eleven tribes.

In the end, it was only those from Levi and Judah (and some from Benjamin) that still inhabited the region. The others moved or where conquered by their Northern Neighbours.

It is true to say some of those may have not followed the Law correctly, and mixed rites of the pagans with the Law and such, but it is not just a Jewish matter alone.

Sorry to be picky, but my brother Judah is not Israel alone. Israel is the 12 tribes collectively no matter how we may consider this today.

Ciao

Shane



posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by ShadowScholar
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Hi Jinx,

I am supposed to be doing something completely different to this but i find it very interesting when someone starts asking the 'Lilith' question...

If you want modern day proof that the story of Lilith is still alive and kicking then i would say go to st mary's cathedral in sydney, Australia, then enter the crypt.

There is a large cross on the floor depicting the story of creation. One of these little works of art is the garden of eden and there are 3 figures present. 1 male and 2 females...

So either there were multiple women in Eden or god is a female =P

This is NOT a mistake and not due to artistic flair (as ive been told) but due to people WANTING it there!

I'm sure you could get your hands on some photos to prove it.

Also alot of the church leaders who are buried there have the knights templar cross on their stone coffins. Just a random fact!

Any other questions ask away, i'd be happy to lend my expertise in this area champ!



Good post, starred it I did. I have always thought of God as a Goddess instead, a female instead of a male. My reasoning? Look at the created universe and planet Earth, at nature and the beautiful animals and things here, and tell me a man did this. Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I was born of woman, I did not spring from the loins of a man!
Then I discovered the Annunaki, and realized that they are not Gods and Goddesses, but are extraterrestrial in nature, and they are the ones who created us as we are today.

We are like they are now. We are not beneath them in any way whatsoever.



posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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Thanks Autowrench!

I personally believe that male and female are equal, and that we are not truly either but spirits incorporating flesh. God in this way is not a man or a woman but both as we are the constructs of our spirits.

I think the definitions of men being powerful and women being caring is silly, all guys secretly have a very nurturing side, it's just not often shown. (Perhaps not Adam??
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At the same time i think women can be very powerful, this is a riddle taken from Roslin chapel and is supposedly of masonic origin from ancient Persia.

"Wine is strong, a king is stronger, women are stronger still, but truth conquers all"

I believe the question was something to do with what the strongest thing in existence was, women are only beaten by truth! I believe this is incorporated into the story of how the 'Prince of Jerusalem??' degree was created...

In any case we're both awesome genders!

The proof is there in the St Marys cathedral crypt in Sydney though, someone believes something in the roman catholic church that doesn't quite fit in. They leave clues for us though, da vinci code style



posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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Interesting thread.

Christianity and Judaism are different religions, and despite a great deal of overlap, it should come as no surprise that there are differences in the various versions of the tales they tell.



posted on Oct, 5 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
Sorry to be picky, but my brother Judah is not Israel alone. Israel is the 12 tribes collectively no matter how we may consider this today.


The word Jew comes from "Judah" ("Jew-dah"), and is only used for Hebrews returning to Judea/Palestine after the Babylonian exile. Using the word Jew about Moses is flawed in other words. Jew=belonging to the remnant few of Judah tribe who returned to Palestine after the Babylonian captivity.



posted on Aug, 18 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Shane
But why was Lilith left out?

This is a question which can cause nothing but undue stress and conflicting arguements which can never be answered, but only pondered.

We must remember one thing here, when considering this.

What is the Bible about?

Genesis chapter 1, deals in specific with "The Creation Story" or "The Recreation Story".

On the 6th Day, along with the multitude of Living things "Created and/or Recreated" man, (both male and female) where created. This encompasses the Global "Creation/Recreation" day. The Fishes and the Fowls and the Beasts and the creepth things, ALONG WITH MAN.

Lilith is part of the SIXTH DAY CREATION. She may very well have had interaction with a man created after the day of rest to till GOD's Garden. That man was Adam. He is unique from the Sixth Day Creation/Recreation Man in one way. He was a farmer. Not the Hunter/Gatherer, which is clearly noted on the Sixth Day.

There is also the other concern when speaking of "These Days". 24 Hours? 1 Week? 1000 Years? 1 Progression of the Equinox?

The main point here is that Lilith, is a Sixth Day Creation.

When we look to Chapter 2 in Genesis, what is the Topic? The need to have one to tend the Garden. It is ALL ABOUT ADAM. It ends with the "CREATION" of Eve. The topic here has been mentioned in passing, but the relevant matter that must be remembered is, there was none LIKE Adam to be his mate/wife.

The Topic now could devolve into some areas of racial fingerpointing, but I wish everyone to remember, if GOD looked and found the Creation/Recreation Man, [both male and female, which he made in "OUR" (collectively speaking) image], was GOOD, then who has a right to argue otherwise. Adam had no one like him, because he was created seperate from the Sixth Day. He was not part of that time, SOOOOOO, his interactions with Lilith, or anyone else for that matter, would have little bearing on the TOPIC of Genesis Chapter 2.

Genesis Chpater 3 deals with the TWO SEEDS, and how they got along. Cain and Abel didn't end up very good.

Genesis Chapter 4, deals with that SEED of the Serpent, and his Bloodline thru his son Cain.

Genesis Chapter 5 Deals with ADAM's Bloodline thru his son Seth.

And the balance of the Old Testament follows that specific Bloodline thru to Christ.

Some may argue it's not quite as simple as this, but it really is. The Bible (Old Testament) gives us a Family Line from Adam to Christ. Of course there are the Teachings, Laws, and Moral Stories we are to learn from and follow, but the general simple fact is, from Noah, [the only one left which had a pure pedigree from Adam, unblemished by Sexual Activities spoken about in Chapter 6, with the Fallen] thru to Abraham, and then Moses, and David to Christ is the main story line.

Now, why was Lilith left out?

She's not part of that Story Line. She has nothing at all to do with anything that GOD had to tell Moses (The Books of Moses). She has nothing to do with Christ or his family.

SO why include someone who has little to do with the Family Line?

Just my few cents on the subject. I did not note anyone had considered this, and whether there is merit in looking at this from this perspective.

Ciao

Shane

www.jesus-is-lord.com...


I just wanted to let you know that your post actually cleared up a lot of questions I had when I read Genesis. I couldn't grasp the concept of the 6th day creation and then Adam and Eve. The way you explained it made perfect sense to me! I could not agree with the common belief that incest occured when Cain found a wife and your explanation completely cleared that up...thank you!



posted on Aug, 19 2011 @ 04:53 AM
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Most of what is known about Lilith comes from Talmudic propaganda. Its stuff promoted by Satan who is a liar. Don't believe it.



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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My question is, why was the daughter of Jesus left out?

Why was the "Holy Grail" excluded from the Biblical records?

Of the 26 books of the Bible that were taken to Rome, only 4 were used. There is so much we have not been told...and who knows what parts are actually true.

All told, everything we have been shown has been taken, quite literally, out of context. Over half of the story is missing.

Lilith, Sarah (daughter of Jesus)...all of these are missing. Why? Is the Church afraid of being caught in a lie, and losing all of its power? Is it afraid of the truth?

Does anyone know anything about Lilith or Sarah?



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Ever read the stories about Jesus as a boy. When he is bringing the clay birds to life and he curses a boy and his family, turning the boy into a corpse/killing him and blinding the parents?

Makes Jesus seem more realistic.




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