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Carter: Race Plays Role in Obama Dislike - UPDATED: White House rejects racism claim

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posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 03:23 AM
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Obama is black? Why didn't anybody tell me? He's like the least black black-guy I've ever seen! Not one "yo, homes" or "dog" at all. I don't even think he qualifies.

Oh yeah, and to accuse everyone of racism is to try and shame them all into simply agreeing with the "black" president. If they listen to what people are saying, I'll bet the n-word isn't mentioned once. Oddly, I've heard nothing but rational arguments, only delivered at incredibly high volume and through a cloud of spit.




posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 07:16 AM
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This anti-white tirade by Obama supporters is getting to look like the Salem Witch Trials. What if the anti-Obama person is Latino? Are they still racist? Why all this focus on white America? How the hell does Carter or anyone know whats in people's hearts? Obama was at 70% approval and then dipped to 50%! Are all those people newly converted racists?

I really beleive history will look at this period as a racial Salem. Its absolutely disgusting whats going on. To think a white, former president would racially demonize white Americans is mind bending.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 07:48 AM
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This is the last straw, I can't take it anymore!!!!!!!!!
The president is HALF WHITE, HALF BLACK!!!!!!!! How can it be about race you freakin idiot(Carter that is) I never think about his race when I get angry about the raping of the taxpayers, I hate him like every other freakin politian and some of them are white, if I'm not mistaken. People like Carter and the MSM are dividing us all!!!!Most Tea party people are for less government, that's it!!!!

Please for the sake of our country, please STOP FEEDING THE HATE, you guys are going to start a race war.

Again, THE PRESIDENT IS HALF WHITE , HALF BLACK!!!
Stop trying to cloud the real issues. People can see right through this crap.
WAKE UP AMERICA OR KISS YOUR ARSES GOODBYE!!!!!!!!



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 08:07 AM
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You are very correct it is all about race.

As the banksters destroy the USA they can minimize the opposition by calling them Black hating racists, get the left wing and the blacks in a lather and start a you and he fight.

I see it here at ATS The tea party and Town hall protests are called racists or paid shills, nobody discusses WHAT the actual protest is about no one sees we have a common enemy - The Federal Reserve.

Putting a black in the white House was a brilliant move and that is why he got the nod instead of Hillary. That is why he ran against an idiot like McCain - yuck, even the religious right wing wackos did not like him.


Don't you liberals ever get tired of being jerked around by the banker strings? Go look up the Rockefeller foundations connection to all the environmental groups. That is what tipped me off as to who actually controls the left. I hated finding out my good intentions was being used to starve people!

Geesh Maurice Strong, father of the environmental movement, was a trustee of the Rockefeller foundation, he worked for the Rockefellers in 1953 in Saudi Arabia just before he built a large oil company in Canada (he was dirt poor high school drop out in 1947) Strong was Chief advisor to the World Bank, the same bank who held meetings at Rockefeller's Westchester home. Strong did business with "Adnan Khashoggi is connected to every shocking event that has occurred since 1960, usually by no more than one or two degrees. A partial list would include Iran-Contra, Wedtech, BCCI, the Marcos Philippine kleptocracy, the Synfuels fiasco, and the discovery of buried mustard gas in the pricy Spring Valley neighborhood of Washington, D.C" www.slate.com...

All you have to do is start digging and you will find the Bankster connections.... If you can stomach it.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by loam
I'm sick of the accusation.

I think it serves as a convenient excuse to avoid addressing the substance of the opposition.

If I'm forced to wildly speculate about race, then I'll note the unprecedented, nearly universal, and unwavering support he apparently enjoys from blacks despite his actual political positions or accomplishments.

This is plain politics and nothing else... I'm insulted by the implication that because I'm not "with him", then its because I'm a racist-- even if I don't realize it.


Reminds me of another "your either with us or against us" president.


Same bag of tricks, different player.



How sad for us....

[edit on 15-9-2009 by loam]


There is no substance to the attacks on the legitimacy of the presidency and I would point to this aspect, rather than the debates on health care reform and bailout practices, as a prima facie case for racism.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Gools
Yeah... I'm not sure how to explain this kind of behaviour... anybody?
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Some of the following is taken from my posts in this thread (Why pretend race doesn't matter?)

It is my theory that many people aren't even aware of their own prejudices regarding skin color. My sister-in-law told me that blacks shouldn't have pets because they're lazy. She told me several other ridiculous things having to do with black stereotypes in a conversation we were having. She then mentioned her mother and I asked if her mother was racist, too. She was aghast! "Racist?!?!? I'm not racist"!!! she said. She was totally unaware that her attitude and what she was saying fit the category of racism. (I do wonder if she thought an actual lynching had to take place to illustrate racism...)

But I see this kind of attitude all the time. Not so extreme, but the same idea. People say things that clearly show that they have issues with race and then deny their own racism. I don't think they're lying (for the most part). I think they don't know.

Representative Geoff Davis (R-KY) said of Obama "I'm going to tell you something. That boy's finger does not need to be on the button." Now, even WITHOUT the "boy" thing, which is clearly a racist term when talking about a black person... Why would he think of a presidential candidate of his own generation as a "boy"? Why would he say that out loud??? Because he isn't aware that it's not OK to think of a black person as "less".

I think many of us are taught in subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways that black people are "less than" white people. As we grow up, unless we're made to face these lessons, there's no reason to deal with them. I think people go their whole lives thinking, "I'm not racist. I have black friends." And that fact keeps them from ever exploring their attitudes further.

Some people (and I used to be one of them) call for an end to to all this race talk and 'let's get on with it'. But they're missing something. A people who have been discriminated against for 400 years cannot just pop into the game. We can't just say, "All right you guys, we have decided that racism is over. We're tired if it and it's time to be equal to us now. Come on. Get with the program. Get rid of all your History Month, NAACP, Ebony Magazine and BET Network and all that special crap. You don't need it anymore. You want to be equal, OK. The time has come."... That's just another way for white people to tell them what to do. It's absurd and arrogant.

The media jumps all over the race stuff. I'm sick of it. But sometimes they're right. Take the Joe Wilson thing. I think there absolutely could have been a racial element. Wilson was a proponent of flying the Confederate flag over the S. Carolina Capitol and dismissed Strom Thurmond's daughter as a "smear" after Thurmond had acknowledged her. In a body as big and old and white as the joint session of Congress, there are many who still carry around the mindset of the 50s and 60s. I think, to many of them, it's more acceptable to break social norms because Obama is black. They think of him as a young pup. Naive. A boy. I think that the disrespect of the Office of President comes easier to some because of Obama's skin color.

And unfortunately, so does the hatred.

The racism we're seeing today toward Obama is not overt or even conscious, for the most part. And that's what's so dangerous about it. But people need to understand that you don't have to shout the N-word to be racist. You don't have to wear black face, use racial stereotypes, belittle other races, or tell them to go back to Africa to be racist.

Signs of Racism



Denial. Racist denies that the other person's or group's intelligence, cultural level, social status or other merits even in the face of overwhelming evidence which proves these qualities. The racist will attempt to "objectively" show proof, usually in the form of insignificant details to contradict the obvious.
...
No insight into own prejudice. It is common for racists to have no insight into their own prejudice. This is because they believe their prejudice to be based upon objective grounds.
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Acceptance of racist behavior or conduct. To view "mildly" racist acts as either reasonable or, at least, not racist and to feel that more severely racist acts are wrong but "understandable".



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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The next time someone accuses me of disagreeing with Obama's policies because his skin is a little darker than mine I will tell him to go f*** himself. I'm really sorry, but these people play the race card every single time they run out of arguments to defend their President and I've had enough of it. Looking back I really wish Bush were black just because I would have loved to see Republicans accusing Democrats of being racist every time they criticized his actions.

[edit on 16-9-2009 by Bullhorn]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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So what of the people that accused Bush of being Hitler, a nazi, ect.?

What about people that made pictures of Bush being monkey-like?

What about the people that just blurted out that they don't like Bush?

All those people are racist to, right?

Could it be that is has less to do with race and more to do with policy?
(Is the above question about Bush or Obama? Hhmmm.....)

I didn't like Carter's policies when I was living in DC in my pre-teen years from 1976-1980. Does that make me, a white male, racist against other white males?

I didn't like Clinton. Oh wait, he was the first black president.
So does that make me racist against whites, blacks, or both?

Is this what it's come to? If you don't like me, your racist but if I don't like you, I'm not.

And it's all true because I say so; facts are for idiots.

See my signature below.

Peace until War.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Genfinity
Could it be that is has less to do with race and more to do with policy?


If it were about policy, most of the criticisms of him would be about his actual policy and not about him.




posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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All right, if these guys represent all white people and I'm racist because they might be, I'll just say that every single ACORN employee is a pimp because some of them evidently are.

[edit on 16-9-2009 by Bullhorn]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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I'm reminded of this STTNG episode.




posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Bullhorn
All right, if these guys represent all white people


I don't believe anyone said anything about "all white people".

My point is that if the criticisms about Obama were about his policy, then people would be talking about his policy, but they can't. Many of these people literally don't even know what they're talking about. They criticize the health care bill, the czars, "socialism, fascism, communism" (they're all the same, you know)... but when asked what specifically they don't like, they're stumped. They cannot speak further than the talking points that Glenn Beck has fed them. So, why do they hate? What's underneath this? Is it as simple as Obama being a Democrat? I don't think so.

But I've said my piece. I don't want to hijack the thread. Suffice it to say that I agree with Carter on this.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:42 AM
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Opposition to Bush was "unpatriotic", opposition to Obama is "racism".

OK, I give up. I am an unpatriotic racist (even though Obama is half
white). From now on it's gonna be F* america this and that damn N*
is the cause of all our problems. I'm going out to join the KKK today!
Who's with me? The white knights shall ride again and cleanse the
land of the negro "problem". Black people unite and fight the white oppressors!

HAPPY NOW?

Sound pretty stupid to me.

That is EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH US INTO.

WHY?

To stir up racial hatred instead of focusing our attention on the REAL
PROBLEM?

If you fall into that trap you really are a good lackey and truly
unpatriotic to boot. Divide and conquer. Only a tyrant would want
to set us up in opposition.

Black or white it should be clear - it is not our relations that are the
problem here.

BOTTOMLINE; IF WE DO NOT CONTROL THEM, THEY WILL CONTROL US.
Are they public servants or does the public serve them?

What's the score?


As for Carter he's just another white apologist who feels we have to
coddle everyone's feelings (except white people's). I used to like the
man until I discovered what a true globablist he actually is. I have a
real issue with anyone who doesn't feel that our national soveriegnty
is something that needs to be protected.

[edit on 16-9-2009 by Asktheanimals]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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My point is that if the criticisms about Obama were about his policy, then people would be talking about his policy, but they can't. Many of these people literally don't even know what they're talking about. They criticize the health care bill, the czars, "socialism, fascism, communism" (they're all the same, you know)... but when asked what specifically they don't like, they're stumped. They cannot speak further than the talking points that Glenn Beck has fed them. So, why do they hate? What's underneath this? Is it as simple as Obama being a Democrat? I don't think so.


What are you saying? That anti-Bush support at rallies always knew what they were talking about? Do I need to start posting videos of them? Of course, many of these people are motivated by anger from the partisanship over the last 8 years and are acting out. That doesn't mean there isn't some legitimacy to what they're saying, even if they are novices in politics. You cant just say, "they're racist", because you have no idea what is in someone's heart.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Bullhorn
All right, if these guys represent all white people


I don't believe anyone said anything about "all white people".


Maybe no one specifically talks about all of them but the implication is clear. I am able to name specific points of criticism regarding his policies (I won't here since I want to stay on topic), but still I'm a racist. It doesn't matter whether you criticize him personally or call him out on policies, you are still labelled a racist, it happens to me frequently.
By the way, I think all these people accusing Obama's critics of being racists should consider a career as criminal investigators. If you can identify someone's motives for doing or saying certain things by reading their minds you are perfect for the job.

[edit on 16-9-2009 by Bullhorn]



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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I feel that the more attention that we give this subject, not just here on ATS but in society as a whole, the longer the debate will go on. It seems to me that a majority of blacks and whites aren't racist. Usually now when race is brought up it's used as an attention getter or for ratings. Some might accuse me of trying to ignore the problem, but quite frankly, I feel that there is no problem. Just ignore the attention seekers and stop adding fuel to the fire.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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Nothing carter does surprises me anymore. I am happy he still has not forgiven or forgotten the fact that Reagan beat him like a rented mule.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost
It was probably done to illustrate that his objections were not based on race (because he too is black). If you make it clear that the person who is opposed to a black man is a black man, the black man wont get accused of racism. Nothing to do with "Because black people would sell out their beliefs to support one of their own".


Sadly, it is not necessarily a valid assumption that because the criticism was coming from a black man that it was not racially motivated (I'm not saying it was).

I have spoken to more than one black person who was quite up front about having no use for "N.....s". Their word. And I used to work for a guy from Korea who also was right up front about the fact that he did not like Asian people.

So if a discussion is taking place on policy, then any reference to race, religion etc. is suspect of being just there for distraction.

Getting back to the original question, I also agree with Carter. I'm not sure I agree the racial motive is "overwhelming", but it is in my opinion considerable.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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I am sick of this bigotry. All those playing the race card are racists. They hate white Southerners without just cause. Dallas cops many of whom were white and conservative tried to get Obama more security when he was stumping for votes. The justification used for calling people racist now is that they do not support Obama or his policies.

Obama has done little to challenge the theives who are raping America. This is why his popularity is plumeting. People like Carter are hoping that Obama will become a martyre for the unholy NWO.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Gools

What proportion of opposition to Obama's presidency can be attributed to racists hiding behind the "anti-liberal" banner?


Now I wonder...

Was liberal opposition to GOP minorities such as Condi Rice, Alberto Gonzales, Clarance Thomas and many others just liberal racists hiding behind the anti-conservative banner?

It seems to me that every time racism is invoked in this country it's coming from the mouth of a liberal!

Why is it that race always seems to be on the mind of every liberal I know, including the liberals here on ATS?

Please tell me why that is, as if I don't already know.

Race only matters to to those to whom race maters!

Conservatives, including myself, don't give a damn whether he is black, white, red, yellow, or green with purple poka dots.

It's the ideology stupid! It's the progressivism and nothing more...you know, the same people who brought us eminent domain.




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