What hit the pentagon on 9/11/01?, page 2
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reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 12:58 AM by Lillydale
OK I guess that seals it. Thanks to this thread here we now know for sure that there were no wings on whatever did hit the pentagon so I guess the OSers have to go back to the drawing board.



reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 08:09 AM by randyvs
reply to post by Lillydale





a place where we could settle this one simple little quandary.
ya , um you're either very nieve or you need to deny ignorance.
because this is not going to happen.


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 09:18 PM by Lillydale
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to
post by Lillydale





a place where we could settle this one simple little quandary.
ya , um you're either very nieve or you need to deny ignorance.
because this is not going to happen.


Hi there, Randy is it? May I call you Randy? I hope so, because I am going to.

Randy, did you mean to actually say something? You seem to have forgotten the informative and interesting part of your post. What does it offer? What does it add?

It insults me, so you got that going for ya

edit to add: and that is why you get a gold star from me, Randy.

[edit on 15-9-2009 by Lillydale]



reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 10:55 PM by SPreston
reply to post by Seventh



If you look at each still frame behind the box in the foreground in these official trial still frames, your plane is still there in each still and is really composed of the background.

United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui OFFICIAL STORY Parking Lot Video Still Frames

Yes it is true, and government loyalist and expert witness jthomas confirms there is no aircraft in the video hitting the Pentagon.

posted by jthomas

Isn't it interesting that I have never claimed that the "security camera video shows any aircraft hitting the Pentagon." Just so we're clear about that, I want you to show everyone here any post I have made on any forum in which I have said that the security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon.

If you can't do that, then you will issue a public retraction right here, correct? What's that, you can't? C'mon, be a sport, just try.


In fact, as we rational people have said for years, one cannot conclude by looking at the security camera video that anything hit the Pentagon.



jthomas Photoshopping Incorporated




reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 11:23 PM by jprophet420
reply to post by jthomas



If its the stupidest question you can ask and you do not answer it I can only infer so many things:

You are unable to.
You are able to but something is preventing you.


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 11:28 PM by squidboy


Missile if anything.... Who knows, without a new investigation with Subpoena power, it's all a crap shot.


reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 09:57 AM by jthomas
Originally posted by Lillydale
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by Lillydale
I am sure this question seems a bit old. I can also imagine quite a few of the "OS" believers out there are just rolling their eyes..."


Just what is an "OS believer?" I have never seen or met one.


You haven't? Try Cameron Fox, Joey Canoli, JThomas, oh whoops. What do you mean what is an "OS believer?"

I know you are dying for an excuse to say "canard" again but that song is played out.


Sorry, we all accept the evidence that you pretend does not exist.

There are skeptics like me who question the claims of 9/11 "Truthers" like you who make unsupported claims they refuse to back up.
There are also skeptics like me that question the unsupported claims of people like you.


I haven't made any unsupported claims. The evidence for you to refute has been given to you.

Claiming it was hijackers stealing planes and crashing them into stuff to being it all down - that is some claim. You cannot back any of that up so instead you attack truthers and you usually do it in such an ignorant manner.


You're upset because you know you cannot refute the evidence to which I have repeatedly pointed all of you. So you just whine, desperate to shift the burden of proof.

Back it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You just keep repeating things. Things you have not verified, checked out, looked into, substantiated in any way. Can you prove any of your outragous claims? No, you have had plenty of chances and you continually fail and then try to claim other people need to prove their doubt, not you proving your wild fairy tale. You are not working in the real world and your answers are increasingly useless.


Sorry, your evasions don't work, and they never will. You are the one making unsupported claims. I have repeatedly pointed you to the evidence for you to refute and you avoid doing so like the plague. YOU are the one claiming there were no passenger bodies at the Pentagon then whine that you never claimed any such thing.

You're just showing the true nature of "denial" in all of it irrational forms.

Now, you have two missions.

1. Present the evidence for YOUR claim that there "were no passenger bodies at the Pentagon." Or, retract that claim.

2. REFUTE the evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon starting here, the same evidence I have repeatedly given you:

wtc7lies.googlepages.com...

And further evasions by you will demonstrate conclusively that you have NO interest in the truth whatsoever.

The ball is in your court. The burden of proof remains on YOUR shoulders.

By the way, Lillydale, do you have any clue what the purpose of the 9/11 "Truth" Movement is?


reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:13 AM by jthomas
Originally posted by SPreston
reply to
post by Seventh



If you look at each still frame behind the box in the foreground in these official trial still frames, your plane is still there in each still and is really composed of the background.

United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui OFFICIAL STORY Parking Lot Video Still Frames

Yes it is true, and government loyalist and expert witness jthomas confirms there is no aircraft in the video hitting the Pentagon.

posted by jthomas

Isn't it interesting that I have never claimed that the "security camera video shows any aircraft hitting the Pentagon." Just so we're clear about that, I want you to show everyone here any post I have made on any forum in which I have said that the security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon.

If you can't do that, then you will issue a public retraction right here, correct? What's that, you can't? C'mon, be a sport, just try.


In fact, as we rational people have said for years, one cannot conclude by looking at the security camera video that anything hit the Pentagon.



jthomas Photoshopping Incorporated





Gosh, are you still upset that everyone agrees that one cannot identify a Boeing 757 in the security cam video, SPreston?

You already know that no one needs that video as evidence to demonstrate that AA77 hit the Pentagon.




reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:15 AM by jthomas
Originally posted by jprophet420
reply to
post by jthomas



If its the stupidest question you can ask and you do not answer it I can only infer so many things:

You are unable to.
You are able to but something is preventing you.


You've been reduced to mumbling.


reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:42 AM by SPreston
posted by Seventh






After cropping the impact Still Frame;



The aircraft shape is still visible (partially obscured by smoke or photoshopping) above the parking lot entry booth after the bright hot explosion short of the Pentagon wall.

The shape is formed by the trees and whatever in the background. The heavy white smoke trail was apparently photoshopped into the videos. The explosion looks too bright and hot for a jet fuel explosion and may be photoshopped in as well. Or perhaps the videos captured the actual explosives used outside the wall. They do seem too vertical for a 530 mph aircraft impact explosion and definitely too hot for jet fuel.

The helipad tower is a phony looking red color on the near side with the explosion on the opposite side. The polyethelene cable spools would be inside the alleged fireball shown in the videos, and were un-melted and un-damaged. Very suspicious.



There seem to be two explosion shapes in the white hot explosion fireball. Photoshopped or two actual explosions captured by the video cameras? Were these Hollywood special effects explosions used for Bush Regime Shock & Awe purposes?





I vote that absolutely nothing hit the Pentagon. Just explosives.

For more information on successful photoshopping, see our resident photoshopping expert and all around parking lot security video debunking guru jthomas.

posted by jthomas

Isn't it interesting that I have never claimed that the "security camera video shows any aircraft hitting the Pentagon." Just so we're clear about that, I want you to show everyone here any post I have made on any forum in which I have said that the security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon.

If you can't do that, then you will issue a public retraction right here, correct? What's that, you can't? C'mon, be a sport, just try.


In fact, as we rational people have said for years, one cannot conclude by looking at the security camera video that anything hit the Pentagon.



jthomas Photoshopping Incorporated





[edit on 9/16/09 by SPreston]
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