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Originally posted by Indigenous equity
The wings folded back upon impact and mixed in with cement and construction materials. The building collapsed on top of the rubble that was the airplane.
There is not a lot to an airplane, its mostly sheet metal and wiring, upon an impact of this nature they would disintegrate and mix in with object they are hitting.
Sorry, but thats just the way it is. No magic missiles, no holograms...just some really crazy people that killed a lot of people and did a lot of damage.
Originally posted by Lillydale
reply to post by Orion7911
So...you reposted something that is posted a page back just to make fun of it?
...and what do you feel that you have added to the discussion?
Originally posted by Lillydale
reply to post by Orion7911
I get what you wish but unfortunately you have to learn the truth.
These folks that just believe all that stuff they heard on tv, they have no idea about things like this. It confuses them and hurts their heads. We ask perfectly logical questions and then they rant, rave, and run off. This leaves us with two choices. Stoop to their level and just taunt them, or be the bigger person and stand there, with your open question, and be proud of it until that day someone comes and snatches it away. I have a feeling they will not. You and it are safe. I figure that I add enough discordance to things after I have been typing here a while and therefore, I try to look for my lost civility in others.
Originally posted by whaaa
The pentagon had a lot of cameras trained on path of the plane. The citgo station had a video of the crash. Until those videos are released; I cannot believe the official story. To many unanswered questions.
Originally posted by Orion7911
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posted by habu71
I normally don't post in these threads, but, I must....
As a former military pilot, airline pilot (including the B757 and 767) AND an ALPA accident investigator, I have seen many accident and incident scenes. Some involved impacts with ground, some buildings, some other aircraft....
Based upon my experience (aircraft and accident investigations), IF an intact B757 size aircraft had impacted the wall of the Pentagon, the evidence would show one of two scenes:
1> fuselage hole or major destruction on the wall, with kerosene flaming and soot on the walls from burning jet fuel. If none, and there actually were wing structures, the wingspars would have created major impact damage, as well as multi sized aluminum shards and spar pieces.
2> In most cases, at these speeds, no evenly spaced hole would have been created. The impact of an aircraft, almost full of fuel, with hot and burning engines a split second later, would have created jagged wall damage, massive fire, repeat massive (not what we saw), and a wide debris field of aircraft pieces, almost none whole. The FDR and CVR would most likely have survived either, but, hmm, none was found or released..........
Originally posted by SPreston
posted by habu71
I normally don't post in these threads, but, I must....
As a former military pilot, airline pilot (including the B757 and 767) AND an ALPA accident investigator, I have seen many accident and incident scenes. Some involved impacts with ground, some buildings, some other aircraft....
Based upon my experience (aircraft and accident investigations), IF an intact B757 size aircraft had impacted the wall of the Pentagon, the evidence would show one of two scenes:
1> fuselage hole or major destruction on the wall, with kerosene flaming and soot on the walls from burning jet fuel. If none, and there actually were wing structures, the wingspars would have created major impact damage, as well as multi sized aluminum shards and spar pieces.
2> In most cases, at these speeds, no evenly spaced hole would have been created. The impact of an aircraft, almost full of fuel, with hot and burning engines a split second later, would have created jagged wall damage, massive fire, repeat massive (not what we saw), and a wide debris field of aircraft pieces, almost none whole. The FDR and CVR would most likely have survived either, but, hmm, none was found or released..........
Thank you. In other words there is zero evidence that an aircraft impacted the Pentagon.
Originally posted by habu71
Exactly, SPreston...
And to the previous poster that maligned the P4T organization, as a proud member, I take offense.
P4T is probably the most astute and knowledgeable collection of pilots, crewmen, accident i nvestigators and scientists that has studied the issues of the official story. If anyone can smell truth or prove falsehoods in the official story, the combined knowledge of this organization makes it the logical place to go for FACTS.
Originally posted by Lillydale
Originally posted by Orion7911
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If you have anything worth hearing, you would have posted that. I am not wandering off into some other link when I have a perfectly good thread right here. The question is simple, short, and should be cleared up soon.
Originally posted by Orion7911
Not sure what "you're" going on about, but my post addressed and expanded on something you said which I was replying to.
As far as the question about wings, whats the point of harping an issue that anyone with a brain can figure out? No wings = No plane
Never was no matter how hard the shills and deniers claim otherwise.
The evidence supports NO PLANE HIT
a No-brainer.
so what are you being pissy about?
Originally posted by Orion7911
The evidence supports NO PLANE HIT
a No-brainer.
so what are you being pissy about?
Originally posted by Lillydale
I still see plenty of people saying it was an airplane and thus had wings. I guess I will be "PISSY" until one of them finds any way to back it up and explain this question.
Originally posted by jthomas
All airplanes have wings, including Boeing 757s.
Because you think they are supposed to stay in one piece as wings after hitting a building at several hundred miles per hour is no reason to claim AA77 didn't have wings.
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by Orion7911
The evidence supports NO PLANE HIT
a No-brainer.
so what are you being pissy about?
There is no such evidence. There are lots of fanciful claims that no jet hit the Pentagon, but not a single piece of positive evidence for that has ever been presented.