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Originally posted by K J Gunderson
My question is....where was all this scorn when George Bush was sending our boys off to die? How about when a few trillion of OUR dollars went missing? Where were the guns at the town halls after G.W. took our tax dollars and gave it to the banks because the banks failed because of shoddy practices? How about when we found out how much of our tax dollars went straight to bonuses and trips?
Everyone on here just seems to want to bash me or bash Obama. The point is being missed completely. I never even said I was an Obama supporter. I am an America supporter. I am a democracy supporter. Whether I like who is president or not, I still love the country that I live in and understand that this is the way it works.
I also understand that if I am unhappy with how things are going, I can protest, I can speak out, I can write freakin blog full of lies if I so choose. I understand that I can lobby and pettition and so on.
What I do not understand is why people need to bring guns to see the president. The WHITE guy, not the black guy. Why does anyone need to hold a sign implying it is time to assasinate the president? Why does anyone have to call themselves a pastor and then ask their congregation to pray for his death? I would have said the same for Bush if things were this bad AND I was on ATS at the time. I do not remember anyone making a point to show they brought their gun to visit the president.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Lillydale
It's more difficult to get a conceal carry permit.
It doesn't MATTER!
Concealed, and you don't know where to look, or some open person who has it strapped on for all the world to see.
It's LEGAL, and it's a RIGHT!
No WHY!
Since this is a RIGHT, we don't have to explain diddly squat to you?
Who made you protest etiquette cop?
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
According to the founding fathers and the papers that they wrote . . . dissidence is one of the proper channels, as is armed revolution.
Wasn't it Hillary Clinton that said dissidence is the highest form of Patriotism?
And the "doing something about it" is coming very soon." I can smell it in the air like you smell the rain before a storm.
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I may be somewhat young and can only remember back to Reagan but I think that is enough presidents to see the big picture. Lots of people disliked Clinton, Bush Sr. Reagan, and I am sure more in the past. Where was all this outrage? Illegal wars, trillions of dollars missing, oral sex in the Oval office, more illegal wars, senelity, dimentia, illegal wars, abuse of power, trampling of the constitution, and on and on and on. I still never saw this level of anger and hatred. One man shot at Reagan because he was crazy. Where were all the gun toters in the past town halls? Where were all the pastors praying for the presidents death? Where were all the people filing lawsuits about and illegal president or denying millitary orders due to dislike for the president? Where was all this anger then? Texas, I am looking at you.
This is a democracy and we vote for a new president every four years. You will all get another chance in 2012. You can vote for some other evil conniving liar. It seems to me that this is how our country works and if you do not like it, you should leave instead of whining and protesting and carrying guns and speaking of Hitler and on and on. I know everyone says it has nothing to do with race so....what is the issue here really?
Originally posted by Alien Mind
The issue is that he is a socialist. He surrounds himself with socialist....its doesn't take rocket science to figure it out....just common sense.
Originally posted by Alien Mind
The issue is that he is a socialist. He surrounds himself with socialist....its doesn't take rocket science to figure it out....just common sense.
Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by K J Gunderson
So, what is the point of your posts - exactly?
You started out by telling everyone to get over obama being elected, and many of us responded to that telling you why we can't and won't.
Then you you've attempted to make it about some guy you claim was advocating killing obama,and that no one ever said anything like that about Bush. All of that is false. If you don't remember this happening to Bush, do your own research. I'm quite confident that you will find way more than just one guy.
Last, you've decided to sink to the level of calling another member that simply doesn't agree with you "stupid" - a T&C violation. With more maturity, perhaps you'll be able to debate issues without "going there" in the future.
He is not a socialist, that is just your opinion. Can you back it up with anything? No.
...If you dont like him...
Bush was never elected and he got away without so much furor. Obama ..?
You are all so partisan that you are missing the point.
If you do not like him, vote him out.
There is no need to take weapons and encourage assasination. Can you justify that? This is still the United States.
Why don't you people get it?
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I may be somewhat young and can only remember back to Reagan but I think that is enough presidents to see the big picture. Lots of people disliked Clinton, Bush Sr. Reagan, and I am sure more in the past. Where was all this outrage? Illegal wars, trillions of dollars missing, oral sex in the Oval office, more illegal wars, senelity, dimentia, illegal wars, abuse of power, trampling of the constitution, and on and on and on. I still never saw this level of anger and hatred. One man shot at Reagan because he was crazy. Where were all the gun toters in the past town halls? Where were all the pastors praying for the presidents death? Where were all the people filing lawsuits about and illegal president or denying millitary orders due to dislike for the president? Where was all this anger then? Texas, I am looking at you.
This is a democracy and we vote for a new president every four years. You will all get another chance in 2012. You can vote for some other evil conniving liar. It seems to me that this is how our country works and if you do not like it, you should leave instead of whining and protesting and carrying guns and speaking of Hitler and on and on. I know everyone says it has nothing to do with race so....what is the issue here really?
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I may be somewhat young and can only remember back to Reagan but I think that is enough presidents to see the big picture. Lots of people disliked Clinton, Bush Sr. Reagan, and I am sure more in the past. Where was all this outrage? Illegal wars, trillions of dollars missing, oral sex in the Oval office, more illegal wars, senelity, dimentia, illegal wars, abuse of power, trampling of the constitution, and on and on and on. I still never saw this level of anger and hatred. One man shot at Reagan because he was crazy. Where were all the gun toters in the past town halls? Where were all the pastors praying for the presidents death? Where were all the people filing lawsuits about and illegal president or denying millitary orders due to dislike for the president? Where was all this anger then? Texas, I am looking at you.
This is a democracy and we vote for a new president every four years. You will all get another chance in 2012. You can vote for some other evil conniving liar. It seems to me that this is how our country works and if you do not like it, you should leave instead of whining and protesting and carrying guns and speaking of Hitler and on and on. I know everyone says it has nothing to do with race so....what is the issue here really?
Originally posted by mnemeth1
This is a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
And this government has taken the constitution and thrown it in the trash.
Originally posted by oneclickaway
reply to post by K J Gunderson
He is not a socialist, that is just your opinion. Can you back it up with anything? No.
It would be an awful lot quicker and less wasteful of energy to find anyone in his life, from birth onwards, who was NOT a communist.
Still, you won't believe that so no point bothering really.