Is Phillip Garrido a Serial Killer?

This is why serial killers/rapists should be sterilized and castrated when convicted...There's no reason why they would need to populate. We can't spread anymore crazy. We are too lenient on our hardcore criminals but you'll be arrested and pursued mercilessly if you download illegally or cheat on your taxes. Ridiculous....

This man had a long rap sheet...What he did is beyond insane and frankly he should just be executed if convicted of being a serial killer...Theres no reason to keep this guy alive. His wife deserves life in prison. That will beat her down and show her how dumb she truly is for assisting in this charade. The sickness between two people like that is disgusting. They aren't human in any way.

It's far beyond mental problems, you can't change crazy.

Originally posted by St Vaast
Just wondering

is all the information contained in the above excerpts from Mail Online UK being made available to people in the US ?

This is the first I have seen it. I don't think it's in the MSM here in the U.S.

Originally posted by St VaastIt's not looking good, according to Mail Online articles, sad to say

Jaycee's daughters (who were allowed to socialise independent of their mother and father) stated to people that their father (Garrido) 'had a church in his basement '

Police now appear to suspect Garrido of murdering a number of long-missing school-girls and several prostitutes

Garrido had access to land adjacent to his own, where he had a 'pad' set up, complete with video player. He'd established the same set-up when arrested and jailed for the kidnap and rape of a casino-worker when he was 25.

It's to be wondered if .. after being 'evicted' from the 'pad' he'd set up in a neighbour's building .. if Garrido created another 'den' underneath his house.

A neighbour allegedly alleges that Garrido had up to ten men at a time in the rear of his property for drunken parties and that possibly Garrido was pimping one or more females

It says he really wanted that video player back. I wonder if there was an incriminating tape in there.

Originally posted by St VaastIt's alleged that Jaycee regarded herself as Garrido's 'wife' and established strong bonds with him .. also that she could have escaped and turned him in long before now, but for the Stockholm syndrome which she undoubtedly developed as a survival technique

I would call it a defense mechanism rather than survival technique. Techniques are usually more intentional.

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Thanks for all that, as messed up as it is to read. This story was bad to start with now it's getting worse, as I had thought it might. It seemed almost impossible for the wife not to be in on it and I couldn't understand why there had been nothing about her in the reports I had seen, admittedly a few days ago.

One of those times when I question not only the cops, who botched this one enormously, but the press, even though I know they suck too. Seemed like no one was doing their job, now they come out with all this.

The things people do to other people amazes me. I can't imagine torturing someone, I can't imagine raping a little girl and fathering her kids, I can't imagine kidnapping and I can't imagine what Jaycee and her kids are going through. I'm not a fan of therapy but in their case I'm going to guess they will need loads of it just to try and get their minds "back to normal", if they ever will be "normal", whatever that is nowadays. I guess that's for another thread and another time.

Some people just need to be taken out of the gene pool, this Garrido guy is one of them.

And what is up with this guys wife? How could she be married to this sick freak knowing what he was doing to that child for all those years in the back yard?

reply to post by TheLoony



Yes, it's extremely disturbing and of course you're right -- Jaycee and her daughters will be needing a lot of assistance, reassurance and positive input.

Fortunately, they're physically healthy and as we learn in the Mail articles, it seems they weren't locked away, but instead were able to mix with others in what on the surface must have seemed normal circumstances as far as others were concerned. The daughters attended a party just a few weeks ago, unsupervised. And in the photo, they seem physically fine and very much like any other girls their age.

Jaycee too appears to have functioned well outside of the Garrido home and from all accounts was running Garrido's business and doing a good job of it. She had access to a computer, and most probably all of them watched tv, went shopping, conversed with other people on regular basis.

To them, their family situation must have seemed 'normal'.

We don't know why Jaycee and her daughters were spared. From the sound of it, several other school-girls perished as well as several women and small children

It's to be suspected that this element will be the cause of the worst which will be suffered by Jaycee and her daughters, both now and through many years to come. Survivor-guilt, I think it's called. Jaycee and her daughters may well have been witnesses to things more horrible than we can imagine, as far as other girls, women and children are concerned.

I hope they're provided the best of care on ongoing basis

Hope also that this case results in an overhaul of the parole system with regard in particular to sex-offenders

It would seem that the system doesn't break all of these people down in every way possible in order to recognize these traits sooner in others.(yet) Genome etc. This guy had red flags all over him and the police or system still failed these children more than once. (hmmmm)

Every once in awhile this type of news come out. But this guy had to confess in order for them to take action? The Truman Show star quits or.........was it in the script?

More MK ultra media/masses control ?

So much for neighborhood watch.(red flag) But a professor gets busted for trying to get into his own home and they screw that up also. At least he didn't get shot. Was this planned?

A female victim is arrested and strip searched for calling the police? More mistaken identities? Or planned?

At least it's not like it was in the Soviet Union............yet.

Maybe this whole thing is just another media distraction......OR;

"This is exactly why your children should be tagged and monitored"

Total recall Logans run

This man is a totally evil, twisted monster. How anyone could harm a beautiful, innocent child is beyond me. Thank goodness he didn't kill her or her babies. Why did they ever let him out of prison? This morning on the news, they interviewed another woman that he had kidnapped, and she had escaped, but what she went through was a nightmare! The laws should be changed. These evil monsters cannot be rehabilitated. He should have stayed locked up forever.

reply to post by Blueangel7


Maybe these types are created in order for us to want these people tagged?

It's going to start somewhere and what better place than to protect the children from these people and keep them apart?

We can't just keep building more prisons.

The police are made to look like they're not capable without advanced technology. Many law enforcement agencies are overwhelmed and many don't realize it.

Still, this one here shouldn't have slipped through the cracks and still did.

There's a heck of a lot more to this story and I bet we're going to hear about it.

[edit on 1-9-2009 by aleon1018]

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I think you are absolutely right! We are one step closer to being marked or scanned. What a seemingly innocent way to bring it about, also. I really thought that after the 9-11 that we would probably receive a chip. Everything about this guy just totally creeps me out. I think that he probably is a serial killer. And what's up with his blog? What is he talking about? Some kind of box where you hear voices? Totally creepy!

In one of the Mail Online articles I posted Page 2, it's revealed that in the Garrido neighbourhood, live 140 or more sex offenders/paedophiles

That's quite a can of worms, right there, one neighbourhood

Originally posted by poet1b

You know, having been addicted to '___', he was a total nut job when the let him out of prison over twenty years ago.

only thing you can be addicted to is yourself.

unless you are a drone.

Originally posted by Blueangel7
reply to post by aleon1018

 

I think you are absolutely right! We are one step closer to being marked or scanned. What a seemingly innocent way to bring it about, also. I really thought that after the 9-11 that we would probably receive a chip. Everything about this guy just totally creeps me out. I think that he probably is a serial killer. And what's up with his blog? What is he talking about?


Some kind of box where you hear voices? Totally creepy!

Many might say that's a radio or TV. If this guy was mind controlled, there could be many ways of influencing him to make him think that. Mental illness has been said to be used as a diversion and a cover.

People see and read into what they want to at the time. (even here) This guy might have alters we aren't aware of yet also.

Why did he confess? He apparently fell into one of his own fantasy delusions that what he was doing others would accept. It's like he has a messiah complex delusion. Even these two women probably convinced him he was. (I think that's how it works anyway)

"It's not the police departments fault" (or whatever) Like he's christ.

If anything, this one will also be made into a book or movie like Monster.

Have you ever seen: Suspect Zero?

People who study others may have problems with reality and their own identity.

People who can't control themselves, try to control others?

I think this is why profiling happens at an earlier age. Kinda like only feeding the stronger ones in the nest and using the others as examples?

Our whole system is chaotic, abusive and self defeating.


Probably why they've built survival bunkers underground.

the news media has more details on him now and it's more like an extended confession and more history at this point and as if he thinks he's going to get out again? A born again rapist ?


news.yahoo.com...

[edit on 1-9-2009 by aleon1018]

Originally posted by whatukno
Some people just need to be taken out of the gene pool, this Garrido guy is one of them.

And what is up with this guys wife? How could she be married to this sick freak knowing what he was doing to that child for all those years in the back yard?

How many women in the world have been the wife of a man who decides to steal himself another wife or concubine?

This isn't a woman who is RARE in the world. In some cultures, this woman is the norm.

reply to post by St Vaast


He thought it was the women's fault for being attractive.

This girl/woman survived by subliminating herself.

She will be used by groups to prove that everything is fine in a family if the woman just submits, and then submits more. Thien she will be treated like a "princess" and spared the fate of the uppity woman who fights.

What happened to this girl/woman is a cultural norm all of the world.

When he was caught in the act with the casino-worker when he was 25, the police said to him words to the effect: ' Why are you resorting to something like this ?' (kidnap, rape, subjecting the victim to his fantasy scenarios complete with toys, video, etc.

And, according to the police, Garrido (then 25) replied that it was the only way (kidnap and rape scenarios) that he could obtain sexual satisfaction

this is according to the Mail Online articles

So the pattern was sufficiently entrenched (and recognised as such by Garrido) by the time he was 25 years old

Of great concern is the fact that two years ago, a female witness who'd been a neighbour at the time, saw young children aged around 4 in the back-yard with several women, described as 'all were blonde' by the witness (according to the Mail Online articles).

Two years ago, Jaycees daughters were older than 4.

What happened to those children and women? And were they Jaycee's children ?

In addition, police are now searching adjacent properties with cadaver dogs. They appear to suspect Garrido is responsible for the deaths of numerous girls and women

What did Jaycee and her daughters witness ?

What surprises me is how much information about this case is being reported by the UK media, compared with the US

reply to post by poet1b


Recent Headline

Jaycee Lee Dugard kidnap: Phillip Garrido's first wife tells of drugs, violence and sex hell

www.mirror.co.uk... 21639378/

High on '___' and pot, he would beat her when she turned down his demands for kinky sex. She said: "He was a monster."

She finally escaped his clutches when he was jailed for rape in 1976. In an interview on US TV show Inside Edition she recalled how Garrido had once tried to "gouge her eyes out" with a safety pin after flying into a jealous rage when he saw her with another man.

Christine later remarried and had four children. But she had no idea that her ex-husband had been released from jail until she heard the news about the discovery of Jaycee.

Last night his dad Manuel said he was sure his son murdered three prostitutes and 15-yearold Lisa Norrell in 1998. Police are now searching Garrido's home for bodies.

Once again, this guy should have been in prison for another ten years, at least, from his first conviction of kidnapping and multiple rapes.

It is like this guy was released on the public on purpose.

He went to jail for a parole violation, and had to wear a GPS monitoring device, yet no one though of searching the property he lived on?

Apparently the rape victim in the crime got him convicted was no CNN.

www.mirror.co.uk...

A rape victim of evil Phillip Garrido has appeared on a chat show revealing how she was assaulted and later stalked by him after he was paroled from prison in 1988.

What exactly are the priorities of our justice system?

MKULTRA or something. It seems for some reason this guy was allowed to prey on the public, and the authorities turned a blind eye.

This isn't some guy that lived an otherwise normal life, this is a known criminal, that was allowed to operate as he pleased, released early from prison when obviously he was a psycho.

Apparently they never bothered to talk to his ex wife, or take any consideration for the victim.

This isn't a case of someone slipping through the cracks, this is the case of authorities seemingly intentionally ignoring a sexual predator on a life long crime spree.

How can the system fail this badly?

There is no charge for "hey this guy creeps me out and I think you should be concerned about him."

His ex apparently never had him up on charges or convicted for his behaviour. I don't blame her for that - it is quite likely that no one would have believed her or cared.

Even the cop who caught him in the act with the victim he went to jail for hardly believed it when he SAW it first hand. The naked woman pleaing for help wasn't enough for him. He let Garrido go back into the container with the victim alone, and used his flashlight to confirm for marks on her wrists before believing her.

These guys might be obvious, but being a creepy screwy scary jackass isn't something you can be convicted of.

He is obviously pretty good at putting people at ease while still being stark raving mad.



[edit on 2009/9/1 by Aeons]

This just keeps getting crazier.

This happened in 1998

WHO KILLED LISA NORRELL

journalism.berkeley.edu...

It was the first of four murders of young women occurring over the span of two months in Pittsburg last year, and devastated Lisa's largely working-class community.

Today, nearly 12 months after her death, police still have no suspects charged with the crime, and painfully few tips -- unlike other high profile murders of women in San Francisco and Yosemite National Park which resulted in arrests in the same period. It is a case which has inspired fears that a serial killer was on the loose, witnessed a local fire official escape criminal child molestation charges in exchange for offering evidence in the murder probe, sparked a court fight over media access to public records, and prompted changes in California state law governing the reporting of missing children.

This web site, produced by a news reporting class at the Journalism School, examines Lisa's murder, the police investigation, and the lasting effects on her city, friends, and family -- one year after the tragedy.

And still, no body checked the local psycho, early paroled kidnapper rapist, no one bothered to search his property.

I don't see how anyone could continue to have faith in our criminal justice system when looking at this history.

What's your solution? Nothing? Kill anyone you suspect?

reply to post by poet1b



Poet, did you read the Mail Online articles on Page 2 ?

They report that 140-plus sex offenders live in the Garrido neighbourhood

That's just one neighbourhood .. just those who've been charged in that one neighbourhood