Currently there are 2795 UN-IDENTIFIED aircraft in flight

Most on ATS have heard of flight tracker.

You can go to this page, and find out how many planes are in the air.
flightaware.com...
It shows 5325 aircraft being tracked.

Notice there are 303 VFR flights. Those are most likely private AC, like Cessna's since they fly Visual Flight Rules, as opposed to the rest, who fly IFR (Instrument flight rules)


Now, there's a list of aircraft in the air under an operator, like Southwest, United, etc., all of them.
flightaware.com...

When you add up all the fleet flights, it's 2227 aircraft.
Add the 303 VFR flights and that leaves

2795 unidentified AC flying in the continental US currently (Sunday, 8:41 Eastern, Aug 30th, 2009)

Yeah, there's no chemtrail AC in the air!

I wonder how the Chemtrail Debunkers are going to explain this one.

It can't be differences in the atmosphere. Any aircraft with a tail number,
should be on that second flight tracker link.

That means there are 2795 aircraft flying around in our atmosphere that don't have tail numbers.

They have to be military, or government aircraft.

No wonder fuel has gone up so much! Especially diesel. Aircraft fuel is further refined diesel fuel. Remember when diesel was so much lower that regular fuel? Like, half price? Diesel now costs as much as regular gas. Why? Demand. The government is using it up, in their chemtrailing aircraft.

Originally posted by Udontknowme
Most on ATS have heard of flight tracker.

You can go to this page, and find out how many planes are in the air.
flightaware.com...
It shows 5325 aircraft being tracked.

Notice there are 303 VFR flights. Those are most likely private AC, like Cessna's since they fly Visual Flight Rules, as opposed to the rest, who fly IFR (Instrument flight rules)


Now, there's a list of aircraft in the air under an operator, like Southwest, United, etc., all of them.
flightaware.com...

When you add up all the fleet flights, it's 2227 aircraft.
Add the 303 VFR flights and that leaves

2795 unidentified AC flying in the continental US currently (Sunday, 8:41 Eastern, Aug 30th, 2009)

Yeah, there's no chemtrail AC in the air!

While its impressive that there are that many UFOs at any given time in the sky, it does nothing whatsoever to convince me that they are chemtrail craft.

Any proof of chemtrails would best found in soil samples. And government documenation. UFOs or pictures of strange mists out of aircraft mean little in terms of chemtrail activity.

I have to say that although this is the first time i hear of this, i am not surprised at all. The world that is being handed to us is fxxxd up. and the worst is no one cares.

Good find.

I believe you should take the time to read the FAQ on the site. There are a ton of reasons why the airlines you are tracking do not have data - either they don't track that specific airline because they haven't identified it, or it was requested to be removed, or it is military in origin.

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. The example you are citing does not appear to be any different.

Originally posted by TLomon
I believe you should take the time to read the FAQ on the site. There are a ton of reasons why the airlines you are tracking do not have data - either they don't track that specific airline because they haven't identified it, or it was requested to be removed, or it is military in origin.

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. The example you are citing does not appear to be any different.

Umm, 2795 of them??

Heres a list of the types of aircraft. Even the Cessnas and Gulfstreams are on there.
flightaware.com...

There are more aircraft in the air that are unidentified than ones that are identified. Just blows me away that anyone can refute the evidence.

Something major is going on above our heads.

From the site:

Why does the number of flights on the "all flights" map disagree with the total flight count on the main live tracking page?

The map displays all flights that FlightAware has recently obtained a position report for. The "total flight count" statistic is the total number of IFR aircraft that have departed but not arrived and with an ETA that's in the future. The total count statistic could contain aircraft not in radar contact, the all flights map could contain VFR flights, and many other situations exist create the discrepancy.

And anyone can have their planes tail number blocked from tracking.

But I'm not really sure what this has to do with chemtrails.


[edit on 8/30/2009 by badmedia]

Originally posted by badmedia
From the site:

Why does the number of flights on the "all flights" map disagree with the total flight count on the main live tracking page?

The map displays all flights that FlightAware has recently obtained a position report for. The "total flight count" statistic is the total number of IFR aircraft that have departed but not arrived and with an ETA that's in the future. The total count statistic could contain aircraft not in radar contact, the all flights map could contain VFR flights, and many other situations exist create the discrepancy.

And anyone can have their planes tail number blocked from tracking.

But I'm not really sure what this has to do with chemtrails.


[edit on 8/30/2009 by badmedia]

No matter how you try to explain it, there are 2795 aircraft that are "off radar", that are within IFR flight rules.

All those planes are doing something.

And no matter what one says, aircraft (normal civilian) do not "turn off" their tail numbers. Come on!

interesting find, never thought about this.

Originally posted by platipus
interesting find, never thought about this.

Pretty scary actually. They are doubling the amount of aircraft in
the air. That's a pretty huge cover up.

Talk about polluting the environment!

so what are they spraying? What it the goal of those 2700 planes?
Why if the bad man is constantly spraying bad stuff on you to kill us all, are we living longer than ever before? Why does the average life span keep increasing? And why doe Barak Husein Obama walk outside without protection? How would 2700 pilots keep that secret? How would they spray killer bad juice on their families on the ground?

They are just con trails. Condensation. the science proves you are wrong everytime and yet you still refuse to look at any evidence that proves you wrong.

Originally posted by Udontknowme
No matter how you try to explain it, there are 2795 aircraft that are "off radar", that are within IFR flight rules.

All those planes are doing something.

And no matter what one says, aircraft (normal civilian) do not "turn off" their tail numbers. Come on!

Well, some are military - they are automatically blocked.

Some are on the ground, so not on radar yet.

And anyone can have their tail number blocked from all public traffic for privacy concerns. All you have to do is provide proof of ownership.

So you don't "turn off" the tail number, it's just filtered out of the tracking. Really easy stuff software side. You can also track your own plane by giving proof of ownership even if the tracking data is blocked from the public.

reply to post by badmedia


Well, here is a list of carriers they are tracking.

242 AAL American Airlines Inc. "American"
212 DAL Delta Air Lines, Inc. "Delta"
195 UAL United Air Lines Inc. "United"
181 COA Continental Air Lines Inc. "Continental"
179 AWE US Airways "Cactus" (Tempe, AZ)
174 SWA Southwest Airlines Co. "Southwest" (Dallas, TX)
134 NWA Northwest Airlines Inc. "Northwest"
125 ACA Air Canada "Air Canada" (Canada)
117 SKW SkyWest Airlines "SkyWest" (St. George, UT)
100 EGF American Eagle, Inc. "Eagle Flight" (Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX)
96 JBU JetBlue Airways "Jetblue"
93 BTA ExpressJet Airlines "Jetlink" (Houston, TX)
71 TRS Airtran Airways, Inc. "Citrus" Orlando, FL
67 BAW British Airways "Speedbird" (United Kingdom)
61 ASQ Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Inc. "Acey" (Atlanta, GA)
54 ASH Mesa Airlines "Air Shuttle" (Phoenix, AZ)
44 AWI Air Wisconsin Airlines Corporation "Air Wisconsin"
42 WJA Westjet Airlines Ltd "Westjet" (Canada)
40 JZA Air Canada Regional Inc "Jazz" (Canada)
39 FLG Pinnacle Airlines, Inc. D/B/A Northwest Airlink "Flagship"
37 RPA Republic Airlines "Brickyard"
37 ASA Alaska Airlines Inc. "Alaska"
35 COM Comair, Inc. "Comair" (Cincinnati, OH)
34 FDX Federal Express Corporation "FedEx" (Memphis, TN)
34 EJA Netjets Aviation, Inc. "Execjet" (Columbus, OH)
31 CHQ Chautauqua Airlines "Chautauqua" (Indianapolis, IN)
29 TCF Shuttle America "Mercury"
26 RYR Ryanair "Ryanair"
26 FFT Frontier Airlines, Inc. "Frontier Flight" (Denver, CO)
25 EZY Easy Jet Airlines Co. Ltd. "Easy" (United Kingdom)
25 JIA PSA Airlines "Blue Streak" (Vandalia, OH)
24 AFR Air France "Airfrance" (France)
22 MES Mesaba Airlines D/B/A Northwest Airlink "Mesaba" (Eagan, MN)
22 DLH Deutsche Lufthansa, A.g. "Lufthansa" (Germany)
21 PDT Piedmont Airlines, Inc. D/B/A Henson Aviation/US Air Express "Piedmont"
20 CJC Colgan Air "Colgan"
20 VIR Virgin Atlantic "Virgin" (United Kingdom)
19 KAL Korean Air Lines Co., Ltd. "Koreanair" (Republic Of Korea)
18 KLM KLM Royal Dutch Airlines "KLM" (Netherlands)
17 QXE Horizon Airlines, Inc. "Horizon Air" (Seattle, WA)
16 KAP Hyannis Air Service, Inc. D/B/A Cape Air "Cair"
15 CPA Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. "Cathay" (China)
14 LOF Trans States Airlines, Inc. "Waterski"
13 CPZ Compass Airlines "Compass Rose" (Chantilly, VA)
13 EIN Aer Lingus Teoranta "Shamrock" (Ireland)
12 UAE Emirates "Emirates"
12 AAY Allegiant Air, Inc. "Allegiant"
12 QFA Qantas Airways Limited "Qantas" (Australia)
11 VRD Virgin America "Redwood" (Burlingame, CA)
10 GJS GoJet Airlines "Lindbergh"
10 GLA Great Lakes Aviation Ltd "Lakes Air"
10 FIV Citationshares, LLC "Fivestar"
9 NKS Spirit Airlines, Inc. "Spirit Wings" (Eastpointe, MI)
9 SIA Singapore Airlines Limited "Singapore" (Singapore)
9 MXA Compania Mexicana de Aviacion, S.A. "Mexicana" (Mexico)
8 EVA Eva Airways Corporation "Eva"
8 AMX Aerovias de Mexico, S.A. de C.V. "Aeromexico" (Mexico)
8 LXJ Bombardier Aerospace D/B/A Bombardier Business Jet "Flexjet"
8 AZA Alitalia - Linee Aeree Italiane, S.p.a. "Alitalia" (Italie)
8 UPS United Parcel Service, Inc. "UPS"

continued....

8 AAR Asiana Airlines "Asiana" (Republic Of Korea)
7 TSC Air Transat "Transat" (Canada)
7 TCX Thomas Cook Airlines "Kestrel" (UK)
7 EXS Channel Express "Channex"
7 MON Monarch Airlines Ltd. "Monarch" (United Kingdom)
7 ANZ Air New Zealand Ltd. "New Zealand" (New Zealand)
7 OPT Flight Options "Options" (Johnson City, NY)
7 CAL China Airlines (Taiwan)
6 GFT Gulfstream International Airlines, Inc. "Gulf Flight"
6 TOM Thomson Airways "Tomson" (United Kingdom)
6 JAL Japan Air Lines Company, Ltd. "Japanair" (Japan)
6 QTR Qatar Airways Company "Qatari"
6 AJM Air Jamaica "Jamaica" (Jamaica)
5 CMP Compania Panamena de Aviacion, S.A. "Copa"
5 SCX MN Airlines D/B/A Sun Country Airlines, Inc. "Sun Country" (Minneapolis, MN)
5 SWR Swissair (societe Anonyme Suisse Pour La Navigation Aerienne) "Swissair" (Suisse)
5 BMI bmibaby "Baby" (United Kingdom)
5 AIC Air India "Airindia" (India)
5 FAB First Air (Bradley Scheduled) Ltd. (Canada)
5 EJM American Air Services, Inc. D/B/A Executive Jet Management "Jet Speed"
4 BWA Caribbena Airlines "Caribbean Airlines" (Trinidad And Tobago)
4 FRL Freedom Airlines, Inc. "Freedom Air"
4 BMA British Midland Airways "Midland" (United Kingdom)
4 VNR Avantair "Avantair" (Fairfield, New Jersey)
4 GEC Lufthansa Cargo Ag, "Lufthansa Cargo"
4 PAL Philippine Air Lines Inc. "Philippine"
4 CJA Canjet Airlines "Canjet" (Canada)
4 ANA All Nippon Airways Co., Ltd. "All Nippon" (Japan)
4 UCA Commutair (Plattsburgh, NY)
4 JAI Jet Airways, M/s "Jet Airways"
4 CKS Kalitta Air "Connie" (Ypsilanti, MI)
4 SAS Scandinavian Airlines System "Scandi" (Sweden)
4 MPE Air Norterra Inc "Empress" (Canada)
4 ELY El Al - Israel Airlines Ltd. "Elal" (Israel)
4 USC US Check Airlines "Star Check"
4 GWY Usa 3000 Airlines "Getaway"
4 TAP Transportes Aereos Portugueses, E.p. "Air Portugal" (Portugal)
4 IBE Iberia - Lineas Aereas de Espana, S.A. "Iberia" (Espana)
3 AUA Austrian Airlines (AUA) "Austrian" (Austria)
3 CES China Eastern Airlines "China Eastern" (China)
3 THY Turk Hava Yollari (Turkish Airlines Co.) "Turkair" (Turkey)
3 HAL Hawaiian Airlines "Hawaiian"
3 CAV Calm Air "Calm Air" (Canada)
3 MPD Air Comet "Red Comet" (Espana)
3 ICE Icelandair "Iceair" (Iceland)
3 THT Air Tahiti Nui "Tahiti Airlines"
3 CMI Continental Micronesia, Inc. "Air Mike"
3 SPR Eastern Flying Service Ltd. "Speedair" (Canada)
3 CSA Czech Airlines J.s.c. "Csa-lines" (Czech Republic)
3 AVA Avianca, Aerovias Nacionales de Colombia, S.A. "Avianca"
2 JAZ Jalways Co., Ltd. "J-Ways"
2 AFL Aeroflot - Russian International Airlines "Aeroflot" (Russian Federation)
2 MEP Midwest Airlines "Midex" (Milwaukee, WI)
2 VAU V Australia "V-OZ" (Australia)
2 AVI L'Avion "Elysair" (France)
2 CUB Cubana de Aviacion, S.A. "Cubana" (Cuba)
2 CWC Centurion Air Cargo Inc. "Challenge Cargo"
2 JNH M & N Equipment, LLC D/B/A M & N Aviation "Jonah"
2 CCA Air China "Air China" (China)
2 POE Porter Airlines "Porter Air" (Canada)
2 BJS Business Jet Solutions "Solution"
2 ETD Etihad Airways (United Arab Emirates)
2 CGO Chicago Air, Inc. "Wild Onion"
2 WSG Wasaya Airways Ltd "Wasaya" (Canada)
2 CKK China Cargo Airlines, Ltd. "Cargo King"
2 AMF Ameriflight, Inc. "Amflight" (Burbank, CA)
2 SWG Sunwing Airlines Inc. "Sunwing" (Canada)
2 CAO Air China Cargo "Airchina Freight" (China)
2 BER Air Berlin, Inc. "Air Berlin"
2 SQC Singapore Airlines Cargo
2 CFG Condor Flugdienst GMBH "Condor" (Germany)
2 SVA Saudi Arabian Airlines "Saudia" (Saudi Arabia)
2 ASP AirSprint (Canada)
2 BHS Bahamasair Holdings Ltd. "Bahamas" (Bahamas)
2 TAM TAM Airlines "Tam" (Brazil)
2 YZR Yangtze River Express Airlines (China)
2 ISA Island Airlines, Inc. "Island"
2 NCA Nippon Cargo Airlines Co., Ltd. "Nippon Cargo" (Japan)
2 PHM Petroleum Helicopters, Inc. "Petroleum"
2 APO Aeropro "Aeropro" (Canada)
2 CMF Air Care Alliance "Compassion"
2 MPH Martinair Holland N.V. "Martinair" (Netherlands)
2 NMI Pacific Wings "Tsunami"
2 TUS Transportes Charter Turismo Ltda. "Turismo" (Brazil)
2 DHC De Havilland Inc. "Dehavilland" (Canada)
2 CLX Cargolux Airlines International "Cargolux" (Luxembourg)
2 GGN Air Georgian "Georgian" (Canada)
1 CAY Cayman Airways Ltd. "Cayman"
1 LAN Linea Aerea Nacional de Chile (LAN) "Lan" (Chile)
1 NSH DB Aviation "NorthShore" (Waukegan, IL)
1 GTI Atlas Air, Inc. "Giant" (Jamaica, NY)
1 BXH Bar Xh Air Inc. "Palliser" (Canada)
1 FEX Flightexec Limited "Flightexec" (Canada)
1 BEE Flybe "Jersey" United Kingdom
1 RYN Ryan Aviation Corporation D/B/A Ryan International Airlines "Ryan International"
1 NWD New World Jet Corp. "New World"
1 ABX Airborne Express, Inc. "Abex" (Wilmington, OH)
1 NVC Nav Canada "Nav Can" (Canada)
1 BLS Bearskin Lake Air Service Limited "Bearskin" (Canada)
1 PAC Polar Air Cargo, Inc. "Polar Tiger" (Long Beach, CA)
1 MAS Malaysian Airlines System "Malaysian" (Malaysia)
1 HTL Jet Linx Aviation LLC "Heartland" (Omaha, NE)
1 RLI Reliant Air "Reliant" (Danbury, CT)
1 CON Continental Oil Co. "Conoco"
1 WOA World Airways Inc. "World"
1 FCL Florida Coastal Airlines Inc. "Florida Coastal"
1 BAF Belgian Air Force "Belgian Airforce" (Belgium)
1 CFT Jet Freighters, Inc. "Casper Freight"
1 CJT Cargojet Airways Ltd. "Cargojet" (Canada)
1 SSX Frontier Airlines d/b/a Lynx Aviation "Shasta" (Denver, CO)
1 TSH Regional 1 Airlines Ltd. "Transcanada" (Canada)
1 AJI Ameristar Jet Charter, Inc. "Ameristar" (Dallas, TX)
1 FWK FlightWorks
1 NAS National Aeronautics And Space Administration "NASA" (Houston, TX)
1 LAL Labrador Airways Ltd. "Lab Air" (Canada)
1 CNK Sunwest Home Aviation Ltd. "Chinook" (Canada)
1 TFL Arkefly "Arkefly" (The Netherands)
1 LJY L J Associates "Eljay"
1 PIA Pakistan International Airlines Corporation (PIA) "Pakistan" (Pakistan)
1 KAC Kuwait Airways Corporation "Kuwaiti" (Kuwait)
1 PEN Peninsula Airways, Inc. "Peninsula"
1 LNE LAN Ecuador (Ecuador) "Lan Ecuador"
1 RAM Royal Air Maroc - Compagnie Nationale de Transports Aeriens "Royalair Maroc" (Maroc)
1 GWL Great Wall (China)
1 FPG Tag Aviation S.a. "Tag Aviation" (Suisse)
1 CGM Cargoman Limited "Hotel Charlie"
1 CGR Compagnia Generale Ripreseaeree Spa "Comprip"
1 SOO Southern Air Inc. "Southern Air"
1 CYP Cyprus Airways Ltd. "Cyprus"
1 RAX Royal Air Freight, Inc. "Air Royal" (Waterford, MI)

continued...

1 LIA Leeward Islands Air Transport (1974) Ltd. "Liat" (Antigua And Barbuda)
1 SLM Surinaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.v. "Surinam"
1 TSO Transaero Airlines "Transoviet"
1 QUE Gouvernement Du Quebec, Service Aerien Gouvernemental "Quebec" (Canada)
1 JAT Jugoslovenski Aerotransport (JAT) "Jat" (Federal Republic Of Yugoslavia)
1 LMO Sky Limo Corp "Sky Limo"
1 THA Thai Airways International Ltd. "Thai" (Thailand)
1 APW Arrow Airways, Inc. "Big A"
1 GLF Gulfstream Aerospace "Gulfstream Test"
1 CGL Seagle Air "Seagle"
1 UZB Uzbekistan Havo Jullary - Uzbekistan Airways "Uzbek" (Uzbekistan)
1 MSR Egypt Air "Egyptair" (Egypt)
1 LOT Lot - Polskie Linie Lotnicze "Pollot" (Pologne)
1 AIE Air Inuit Ltd. "Air Inuit" (Canada)
1 XAP Direct Air, Inc. D/B/A Midway Connection "Mid-Town"
1 GFA Gulf Air "Gulf Air"
1 CFA China Flying Dragon Aviation Co. "Feilong"
1 WML Chantilly Air, Inc. "Marlin"
1 TTE Avcenter, Inc. "Teton"
1 LCO LAN Cargo "LAN Cargo" (Chile)
1 TAI Taca International Airlines S.a. "Taca" (El Salvador)
1 LRC Lineas Aereas Costarricenses, S.A. (LACSA) "Lacsa" (Costa Rica)
1 FIN Finnair O/y "Finnair" (Finland)
1 ATN Air Transport International Llc "Air Transport"
1 CRL Corse Air International "Corsair" (France)
1 PAG Perimeter Aviation Ltd. "Perimeter" (Canada)
1 GRY New York State Police "Gray Rider" (Albany, NY)
1 SYK Satsair "Aerocab"
1 EEZ Eurofly S.p.a. "Siriofly" (Italie)
1 EIA Evergreen International Airlines "Evergreen"
1 NAO North American Airlines, Inc. "North American" (Jamaica, NY)
1 FAO Falcon Air Express "Panther" (Miami, FL)

flightaware.com...

There is the list. I think they've got most of the carrier covered, don't you?

Even Evergreen has one up. The rest, are basically going to be government or military.

reply to post by Udontknowme


That was about a bunch of useless posting...don't ya' think?

You're premise doesn't mean anything other than there are quite a few aircraft that aren't tracked by that particular software.

Big Whoopee......

Originally posted by cranberrydork
reply to post by Udontknowme

 

That was about a bunch of useless posting...don't ya' think?

You're premise doesn't mean anything other than there are quite a few aircraft that aren't tracked by that particular software.

Big Whoopee......

Big Whoopee? There are 2700 aircraft flying around that don't want to be identified for some reason. Why? Thats 54 aircraft per state, early Sunday morning. Hmmm.

I can see the usual chemtrail debunkers in this thread already though.

I thought it was pretty interesting info, to say the least. But the debunkers, seem that it's no big deal. Hmmm.

Your logical is flawed even if the data you believe is accurate is accurate (which the site states it is not).

You are stating the equivalent of "If the sky is not green, it must be red." Just because you don't like the answer you are being given doesn't make your statement any less false.

I am not trying to debunk chem trails - personally, I believe they exist. However, the "evidence" you are trying to supply is not proof of this.

Originally posted by TLomon
Your logical is flawed even if the data you believe is accurate is accurate (which the site states it is not).

You are stating the equivalent of "If the sky is not green, it must be red." Just because you don't like the answer you are being given doesn't make your statement any less false.

I am not trying to debunk chem trails - personally, I believe they exist. However, the "evidence" you are trying to supply is not proof of this.

Proof? Did I say somewhere that this is proof? I would say the difference is large enough, to warrant investigation. Flight Tracker charges $700 plus about $300 in fees to "hide" the tail number. That's about $270,000 in fees they gathered, to hide aircraft.

Someones going through alot of trouble to keep this whole thing under wraps.

The numbers don't lie. Might be the reason the bees are dying.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by TLomon


I agree, i didn't have to read this thread too long before i came to a rational persons post, thanks!

Deny ignorance...

Now hopefully people are denying the ignorance that there are alien UFO's buzzing around the Earth...

The simplest answer tends to be the correct one. I live by this rule.

"If you come across a fallen tree in the woods the response wouldn't be, did an Alien UFO knock it over, it would be, now where's that lumber jack now..."