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Originally posted by jibeho
My only question at this point relates to the units of weight and measure on the BC . I am currently researching the methods used in 1961. It seems as though metrication was not standard until 1964.
Originally posted by dizzylizzy
If they followed the British system [...] there would be no footprint it is not something that goes on a UK birth certificate.
Souvenir birth certificates are NOT legally accepted as proof of age or citizenship. Only a COPY of the original OR a “short form” can be used as legal verification.
Most hospitals in the U.S. issue a souvenir birth certificate which typically includes the footprints of the newborn. However, these birth certificates are not legally accepted as proof of age or citizenship, and are frequently rejected by the Bureau of Consular Affairs during passport applications. Many Americans believe the souvenir records to be their official birth certificates, when in reality they hold little legal value.
Originally posted by argentus
My own BC -- 1958, Ventura, California, has a cute lil' set o' footprints.
Somewhere along the line, I elected to stand down on the BC issue. I feel that there are some problems with President Obama's lack of documentation, but I also have lately come to the conclusion that if it was conclusively proved that he was not born in Hawaii, that the repercussions of that event would be to the detriment of the United States as a whole. I can't say I'm thrilled with some of the things he's done as president, but I can say that I think total civil unrest would be the worst thing for the U.S. right now.
Originally posted by kenton1234
I bet they'll sell you a copy of this "Original Birth Certificate" for $100.00.
This is getting pathetically sadder and sadder with each passing day. But go ahead and waste your time chasing phony documents from 3rd world countrys and we'll run the country. Thats fine with me. I'm truly laughing my ass off with this one.
On second thought this looks like an original Birth certificate to me and if I was a 'Birther' I would do anything I could to get to the bottom of this one for sure. Hey I know. Why don't all you "birthers" buy a plane ticket and go get a copy and run back real quick in time for the evening fox celebrity news network broadcast. I mean what have you got to lose at this point. You alreadly lost the election.
P.S. Don't forget to take cash for a copy because I dought they take out of country checks in Kenya. And don't smudge the ink because you don't want people to think it's not real do you?
Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by oneclickaway
I hope you are right, oneclick. I believe that if President Obama wee removed from office, that all manner of hell would be unleashed. I don't neccessarily thing these things would happen along racial lines. I just think it would be a crapstorm, and at a time wherein the U.S. REALLY needs a sense of unity, not polarization. Understand, I think the U.S. economy is on the cusp of total and absolute collapse.
Short answer: I don't think it matters any more. The U.S. isn't going to have a cohesive leader; one that is trusted by some of the population is better (I hope) than none at all.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Thanks for doing this, SO.
I stated my thoughts on the original thread here. Nothing else jumps out at me. But the footprint actually looks more like a real baby's footprint in this video. I have never seen one so perfect as this, though.
A couple more points:
The seal seems to say "SEAL" in the center... And anyone can get an embossing seal made. It seems several of the goofs from the last hoax are corrected in this one.
It occurs to me that if he wanted to convince people that he had the real deal, he would have stabilized the document, by placing it on a solid surface and carefully filmed it instead of waving it about and capturing glimpses of the info on the piece of the paper. This just seems like a "carrot" for those who still want so badly to believe.
This guy's a criminal.
The certificate says Obama's Father was born in 1936. No other date, just the year. Interestingly, every internet source I can find has the same. Just the year. But Obama's Mother's full birth date is noted.
Originally posted by open_eyeballs
I knew he is Christian today, but I thought I heard he was at one time muslim when he was younger...
You probably did hear that. There is a school registration form from when he went to school in Indonesia as a child, and it lists his religion as Muslim. It was filled out on a form. So, at one time, someone filled out a form (I suspect his step-father) and wrote in "Muslim" and that's what people are taking as fact. Personally, I doubt that a 6-year-old boy knows or cares what Muslim is.
Originally posted by js331975
It amazes me how some still think this is a valid point. Do you fail to realize that if there was truly any question the Republican party would have been ALL OVER IT.
Seriously guys? The birth certificate is so last month. Get with the program and start bashing the health care reform. Try to keep up.