War has been declared in Australia., page 6

reply to post by Agit8dChop

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A lot of countries are, unfortunately, now getting the backlash of oppressing and mistreating the people who were there first.

Also, we are living in desperate times, and it is disheartening for underprivileged youth who perceive that they are now lower than the low.

What goes round comes round, and the arrogant invaders are probably getting their just dues.

Having said that, I am very sorry for all the innocent victims in this mess.

It is not only Australia, but everywhere people are desperate.

reply to post by spellbound

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I think that govts. instruct media to focus on indigenous reconciliation stories and scenarios, for 2 reasons:1) to take the heat of themselves; make themselves out to be the good guys.
2) Make people think that they are not supressed- its the indigenous whom are.

We are all just as supressed as the indigineous; I think that we (other than indigenous ) realised this centuries ago; and now just put-up.
We are all in the same boat.
Non-indigenous just realise how futile the fight really is.

If we really want to nit-pick, we could say that war was declared on the PLEBS, long before Australia was even a colony.

[edit on 8/23/2009 by KRISKALI777]

reply to post by detachedindividual

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Really because the VICAP stats here in the states are pretty conclusive. The majority of violent crime in the US is committed by African American and Hispanic males.

Now, you can argue why that is amongst yourselves.

reply to post by detachedindividual

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Come live in Perth and know for yourself rather than just cite the same old rhetorical reply.

Im with you OP. I live in Cannington. I've seen it at it's worst, and it is a war zone near the train station (Queens Park also) so much that I don't ever go any further up the trainline than Gosnells (which is also dangerous) unless I have to, and it's the same heading towards Perth. Unfortunately, I have no choice but to go there weekly.

reply to post by ladyinwaiting

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Guys, I'm serious. If you want to address this issue in a noisy and legal way, I can point you in the direction to go.

Example of how a community task force can work:
About 15 years ago my town had a problem with homeless people. They were dirty, begging, drunk, etc. They were everywhere in the downtown area, where there are many bars and restaurants. A few of us were concerned about them. A call to the Mayor's office, suggestions for other professionals in town who would volunteer to serve on our Task Force, we had meetings in our city hall, delegated who would do what. I actually went down by the river at midnight and knocked on the "door" of a refrigerator box. (Our homeless had no history of violence).

What we learned was all these homeless were vietnam vets. We started inviting more and more VA employee's, mostly social workers, and administrator's to our meetings. Within a year, the VA had identified the homeless population, rennovated two old houses on their beautiful property into "temporary lodges" for this population. They moved in, got off the booze, and the VA Social Workers helped them find homes, jobs, etc.

We also (not me, but others) accomplished working with law enforcement when we were having so many incidents involving "gangstas", and day time burglaries. We enacted a new law re: truancy. Anytime a youth was not in school the parent was fined 50.00 per day. If she had no money, she spent a night in jail. Remarkable how well this worked.

The police department also put small trailors in these "gangsta" neighborhoods, forming sub-stations for the police department.

I hope I don't sound naive. I don't mean too, and I am hearing you guys have real problems with this population of folks. I'm just sayin' ---
there has to be solutions. Be noisy. Don't let law enforcment off the hook.
Replace your city leaders. Make this an issue. Picket city hall! Write editorials ! Just become visible and let them know you want this problem solved!

Is any of this useful or applicable to you?

Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by Agit8dChop

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A lot of countries are, unfortunately, now getting the backlash of oppressing and mistreating the people who were there first.

Also, we are living in desperate times, and it is disheartening for underprivileged youth who perceive that they are now lower than the low.

What goes round comes round, and the arrogant invaders are probably getting their just dues.

Having said that, I am very sorry for all the innocent victims in this mess.

It is not only Australia, but everywhere people are desperate.

Good post Spellbound.

reply to post by lifecitizen

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Surely you are not talking to me. Nothing you said even remotely addresses the point I was making. Talk about bs.

Better still....I think I have made three posts in this thread other than this one. I strongly recommend you get a feel for what someone is saying, before you come in with a bunch of holier-than-thou-judgmental comments, speaking to a post of which you obviously have no knowledge.
You might save yourself from a little embarrestment later. Pop top.

[edit on 8/23/0909 by ladyinwaiting]

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