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reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:08 AM by St Vaast
reply to post by Pellevoisin




If I were able, I'd give you far more than one star

You've been brave enough to say what many wish were the case


reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:17 AM by mikerussellus
reply to post by patentpending



Agreed. This is a problem that crosses all lines, race, economic status, nationality. It's something we ALL have to worry about.


reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:43 AM by St Vaast
reply to post by kerazeesicko



Ok, how would you deal with the following ?

It occurred on Stradbroke Island, off the coast of Queensland about 10 to 12 years ago.

A group of deaf and blind people were on holiday on the island. They were camping .. in tents

During the night, an aboriginal gang raided the campsite. It got rough

Everyone in the camp was asleep

Those who were sighted but deaf did not know what was happening until the gang was in their midst, in the dark, beating, wrecking, stealing, etc.

Those who were blind could hear the attack but couldn't see what was happening and were also unable to defend themselves.

The campers were unable to communicate with each other

Naturally, none of the handicapped campers had weapons. They were defenceless

There were a few volunteer 'carers' but like the others, they were given no warning of the attack and were fast asleep, in the dark, in one or other of the several tents

What would be your opinion if you were one of the victims ? How would you feel about going camping again ? Would your trust and self-confidence be severely strained and/or destroyed ? How would you feel if you were informed that someone in an internet forum advised people to carry weapons or join a gang ?


reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:44 AM by YourForever
reply to post by Rockpuck



A gun is pointless. Unless you want to serve a very long jail sentance for using it?


reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:48 AM by xxxcosta

I hope I'm not repeating a post but if someone comes at you with a stick, get a bigger stick.


Getting a bigger stick or knife or a gun does not solve the problem! Yes you might hurt them and they will back off for this particular time. But the gungsters are going to get ya next time with bigger stick or bigger croud...
I have seen it enough times in mylife. And when you scared that something is going to happen to you, and you are thinking about it all the time, you will eventually manifest this in your life.
I used carry a pocket knife and a pair of knumchacks bihind my colar of the shirt and leather jacket on top so you cannot see it.
Gess what was happenning to me... I was finding myself more and more involved with all kind of scraps with street gungs and bar fights.

Violence is only produces more violence. Same as goverment conrol, (rules and regulations or more police on the streets will produce more people breaking the law... I lived it... (On the both sides of the street.)

Now, if you think positively, without being afraid of being robbed, beatten, raped and etc. If you bring feeling of security within yourself, feelings of happiness and joy (does not matter what is going on around you or what you hear on the news channel) YOU ARE making a big change for yourself and for outside world as well. As you start to radiate love instead of fear you will attract same experiences into your life as well.
I would like to bring an example from a movie "Pieceful worrier" there was an scene in the movie where "Socrates" and the boy were cornered in the back street and demanded their walets. If you wanna know what happen, watch the movie...
I live my life like that. I am not afraid of gungsters or swine flue BS, I know deep within myself that nothing bad is going to happen to me.

PS. What we fear we become, when we fear to become...


reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:57 AM by St Vaast
reply to post by OzWeatherman




Hi, would you point me in the direction of links and other sources please, where it states Australians are permitted to own firearms ?

As far as I'm aware, only those who can prove special-circumstances (such as rural-dwellers and members of target-shooting associations who anyway must leave their guns at the club) are permitted under law to have and use firearms



reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:58 AM by mikerussellus
Originally posted by xxxcosta

I hope I'm not repeating a post but if someone comes at you with a stick, get a bigger stick.


Getting a bigger stick or knife or a gun does not solve the problem! Yes you might hurt them and they will back off for this particular time. But the gungsters are going to get ya next time with bigger stick or bigger croud...
I have seen it enough times in mylife. And when you scared that something is going to happen to you, and you are thinking about it all the time, you will eventually manifest this in your life.
I used carry a pocket knife and a pair of knumchacks bihind my colar of the shirt and leather jacket on top so you cannot see it.
Gess what was happenning to me... I was finding myself more and more involved with all kind of scraps with street gungs and bar fights.

Violence is only produces more violence. Same as goverment conrol, (rules and regulations or more police on the streets will produce more people breaking the law... I lived it... (On the both sides of the street.)

Now, if you think positively, without being afraid of being robbed, beatten, raped and etc. If you bring feeling of security within yourself, feelings of happiness and joy (does not matter what is going on around you or what you hear on the news channel) YOU ARE making a big change for yourself and for outside world as well. As you start to radiate love instead of fear you will attract same experiences into your life as well.
I would like to bring an example from a movie "Pieceful worrier" there was an scene in the movie where "Socrates" and the boy were cornered in the back street and demanded their walets. If you wanna know what happen, watch the movie...
I live my life like that. I am not afraid of gungsters or swine flue BS, I know deep within myself that nothing bad is going to happen to me.

PS. What we fear we become, when we fear to become...


I hope you're right. I know I'd like to live in that world where it would work. But I fear, that the bad guys, won't give two shillings about your feelings. They will laugh at the attempt to live peacefully.

Honestly, I hope and pray that you are right and I am wrong. But I have to live in the world I live in. And I will protect me, and my family like a rabid pit bull.


reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 12:59 AM by OzWeatherman
Originally posted by St Vaast
reply to
post by OzWeatherman


As far as I'm aware, only those who can prove special-circumstances (such as rural-dwellers and members of target-shooting associations who anyway must leave their guns at the club) are permitted under law to have and use firearms


Sorry, you are right

Thats what I was hinting at, but after reading my post it came out all wrong


reply posted on 22-8-2009 @ 01:22 AM by xxxcosta
reply to post by mikerussellus



I know how you might feel living in the enviroment you describe. Like I said before I used to live and think like that and it just does not work as you want it to be.
The only advice I can give you from my previous experiences to help you to protect your loved.
When you find yourself in the situation (Fight or Flight), and second option is not available any longer.
Hit first and hit hard and make sure you disable leader of them first (the rest is usually cawards), don't hate them, just do what you have to to survive the encounter.
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