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Could Obama's Career Be Over?

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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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Could Obama's Career Be Over?
After listening to CNN, MSNBC, and CNBC on the radio, I think Obama's presidency has hit a wall. I think we are looking at a one term president who is falling into the foot steps of President Bush the first.

(1) If he passes health reform by sidestepping the Republicans, he will lose a lot of political capital.

(2) If he passes health reform without the main base of the Democrats, he also loses a lot of political capital.

(3) War in Afghanistan is possible to win, but the American public have lost all enthusiasm for the war (similar to what happened to Iraq between 1991 and 2003).

(4) He has been on a world tour since he became president.

(5) He is not fully involved in creating the health care bill.

(6) Media is now reporting a disconnect between the White House and Voters.

(7) He over exposed himself to the public.

(8) We are about to do another double-dip into the recession.

(9) Warren Buffet went on the air today and told Obama to stop spending, or we will become a Banana Republic.

(10) He is sending two different messages to the public.

(11) Cash for clunker is a disaster.

(12) People are out of jobs.

(13) The housing market has filed more foreclosures.

(14) The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is escalating.

If you look at the current polls, he is below George Bush the second at this point in his career. Even though he may get his health reform, 70% of the voters already like what they have.

I think its over for him.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by Pathos]




posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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Maybe so...but the thing is the democrats dont really have anyone else... Clinton?


So just because he looses political capitol doesnt really mean much...in todays system it is about who is more popular...the only person I think we can see as a real competitor at this point is someone like Ron Paul...

the next race will be much more interesting in my opinion...not so one sided..unless something drastically changes in the next 3 years and America gets attacked or something...approval ratings always skyrocket on the outset of war...



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:57 PM
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He's doing just fine ....by the Illuminati, and this is just play acting, each has a role, and in the end, this frontman is doing an excellent job in continuity to destroy this nation which Bush started, perhaps even Clinton.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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It certainly has been a disastrous year for the administration. I've never seen such good support lost so fast.

Everything seems to be pointing to a staged false flag attack in order for him to regain the lost political capital so he can push his agenda through.

A health emergency involving swine flu would be perfect for making any changes he'd want with health care.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:03 PM
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While that might be true with approval ratings and war, the difference today vs Afghan war is that America is so broke that the gov't can't hide it as well as they used to. Back in 2001 people weren't feeling the pinch they are now. If we are attacked and we start yet another war, I think a lot of people will see it as Obama being desperate unless it's a pretty spectacular attack.

Ironically I think it's the Democrats desire for bipartianship as cover for their agenda that will doom them. Politicians talk a lot about getting a "mandate" judging by the supermajority the Democrats have in the senate and they have the house votes to pass what they want, but they can't even pass thier own bills due to party infighting, then the people will get tired of that which I guess you could say it's just business as usual and all is going according to script. Someone put up a video of a democrat challenging the Republicans to put up or shut up on repealing medicare, well that works both ways, if the Democrats want all these "reforms" nothing is holding them back besides themselves.

As for Obama, unless he radically changes his "vision" for America and starts going after these banksters, starts doing things in the true interest of the people and start representing all demographics of the US, he'll be what I call a "One hit blunder". Obama needs to realize he's not starring in a reality tv show, he's the POTUS and it's time to get down to business and work in the intrests of the people and not special interests.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by CapsFan8
It certainly has been a disastrous year for the administration. I've never seen such good support lost so fast.

Everything seems to be pointing to a staged false flag attack in order for him to regain the lost political capital so he can push his agenda through.

A health emergency involving swine flu would be perfect for making any changes he'd want with health care.

Do you think he will stage a Swine Flu crisis, so he can regain the upper hand in healthcare?



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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True buyer's remorse;
I thought I purchased hope.
I received Bush in Blackface.
Not amused.

When do we get accountability.
For past sins, and present actions?



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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I will not count him out. He is just too much of a smooth talker. If this had been a good economy, Obama would have had his way with little trouble.

Obama may very welll win reelection if the economy fully recovers by 2012.

It's all about the economy.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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He is much to busy playing golf and visiting the national parks to be concerned with we pee ons!



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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Do you think he will stage a Swine Flu crisis, so he can regain the upper hand in healthcare?



What if the Swine flu is an actual crisis and is a severe as the WHO says it could be. People are sick and Obama says to get the insurance/HMOs companies you wanted to take care of you. Who will sick people turn to?

The Israelis are taking precautions.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Obama could look like a hero on this one or be blamed.





[edit on 19-8-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:29 PM
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1700 deaths worldwide, including the southern hemisphere where the flu is in full swing in winter months, and less than 1 percent mortality rate. This thing is about as bad as the rhinovirus.

Yet we are supposed to be taking unproven vaccinations that likely will do more harm than the virus itself, just like the vaccine for swine flu in 1976? And if it mutates to something worse, what good is the vaccine? If people start to refuse, the military will have carte blanche to step in, and you know they wanna.

But I see you are stating this hypothetically. Things would certainly go nuts then, and I don't even want to imagine the stuff they would do. I don't think they want a total collapse, just more control and they'll get it with hype and manipulation.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by CapsFan8]

[edit on 19-8-2009 by CapsFan8]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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There's no doubt in my mind that the real powers that be are going to use this swine flu "pandemic" to furhter their goals specifcally population reduction. Here's someone who seems to know more than what most people to know about a drastic reduction population in the near future:



Apparently he's the father of the whole "Gaia"movement which in some circles Gaia is supposed to be the "God" of the NWO religion.
en.wikipedia.org...

Back to Obama though, to me it seems like he's just going to through the motions to a degree and trying to enjoy the "perks" of being POTUS right now. He's probably aware of a lot of the plans of the TPTB and he's just acting a part. I can't believe that someone in his position, his apparent intelligence would be willingly making these choices he is and making the whole mess worse. At this rate I don't think history will look too fondly back on him. In the end he's just a puppet and it doesnt' matter too much what he pesonally thinks.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:52 PM
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You know . . . I never put the two together.

A false flag swine flu pandemic to force Obamacare through.

Wow



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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I believe you're absolutely correct. I believe it’s safe to say Obama’s gone as soon as we can get him out. We just need to watch the damage control he does until that time comes. I recently posted a thread in the "Above Politics" forum in which I stated we needed to have, for the lack of a better term, a "2-year vote of confidence" or something to that effect for Presidents. Keeping in mind all the factors that come with inheriting an office, 2-years may not seem like much time. BUT, you can clearly see the direction a new President is leading us in that time frame. Obama's leading us to a time machine with 1939 and a random European country set as the destination!!!!
Peace,
CBS



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Pathos
 


Maybe so...but the thing is the democrats dont really have anyone else... Clinton?




I know they fear the advance of PALIN and JINDAL



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Pathos
 

Maybe so...but the thing is the democrats dont really have anyone else... Clinton?


I know they fear the advance of PALIN and JINDAL



The other side of the same CON.

Palin is the biggest fail the RNC has ever produced,
that is if you want to sway independent voters like me and win.
I desire my elected officials to have more fortitude than a turnip.



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Absum!

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Pathos
 

Maybe so...but the thing is the democrats dont really have anyone else... Clinton?


I know they fear the advance of PALIN and JINDAL



The other side of the same CON.

Palin is the biggest fail the RNC has ever produced,
that is if you want to sway independent voters like me and win.
I desire my elected officials to have more fortitude than a turnip.



PALIN/JOE THE PLUMBER 2012!

and PABLO THE BUILDER for Secretary of state!

TRIFECTA baby!



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by mental modulator
PALIN/JOE THE PLUMBER 2012!

and PABLO THE BUILDER for Secretary of state!

TRIFECTA baby!


Holy C##p, that was the funniest thing I have read all night. Beats out the, "So who cares if Lady Gaga is a Hermaphrodite?" thread hands down!

Still laughing!



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by Absum!

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Pathos
 

Maybe so...but the thing is the democrats dont really have anyone else... Clinton?


I know they fear the advance of PALIN and JINDAL



The other side of the same CON.

Palin is the biggest fail the RNC has ever produced,
that is if you want to sway independent voters like me and win.
I desire my elected officials to have more fortitude than a turnip.


Ahh, now - you've fallen into their trap - they've tried very hard to convince you that Palin is a nutcase - in fact - she is the answer - she is the first real politician who is on OUR side. They don't like that, you see. So they have portrayed her as an idiot. She is not. Read. Think for yourself - don't swallow the damned kool-aid. She is genuine. A real person, with clout, steam, whatever you want to call it - but she is not a good ol' boy - she will call them on their sh*t and get something done... Look at her record. Don't look at the press mud-slinging. Think for yourself, for once. Don't recite what they want you to believe and say. Ridiculous, she is our hope. Maybe not our only hope - but our hope.




posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by EYE SEE

Originally posted by Absum!

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Pathos
 

Maybe so...but the thing is the democrats dont really have anyone else... Clinton?


I know they fear the advance of PALIN and JINDAL



The other side of the same CON.

Palin is the biggest fail the RNC has ever produced,
that is if you want to sway independent voters like me and win.
I desire my elected officials to have more fortitude than a turnip.


Ahh, now - you've fallen into their trap - they've tried very hard to convince you that Palin is a nutcase - in fact - she is the answer - she is the first real politician who is on OUR side. They don't like that, you see. So they have portrayed her as an idiot. She is not. Read. Think for yourself - don't swallow the damned kool-aid. She is genuine. A real person, with clout, steam, whatever you want to call it - but she is not a good ol' boy - she will call them on their sh*t and get something done... Look at her record. Don't look at the press mud-slinging. Think for yourself, for once. Don't recite what they want you to believe and say. Ridiculous, she is our hope. Maybe not our only hope - but our hope.



YA and she Secured more earmarks per capita then almost any other state.

FEDERAL $$$

She utilized the FEDERAL government to receive more federal money per person
than any other state @ $300.00 per person.

Is that not redistribution of wealth? OR socialism?



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