Originally posted by Pathos
Could Obama's Career Be Over?
After listening to CNN, MSNBC, and CNBC on the radio, I think Obama's presidency has hit a wall. I think we are looking at a one term president who is falling into the foot steps of President Bush the first.

(1) If he passes health reform by sidestepping the Republicans, he will lose a lot of political capital.

(2) If he passes health reform without the main base of the Democrats, he also loses a lot of political capital.

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I think its over for him.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by Pathos]

It may be looking like that now, but I've noticed over the last few years that when things seem to get desperate for TPTB they use some tactic no one's ever seen and the bic picture just gets larger, more complicated, and usually worse for those that oppose him.

We'll see what tricks he has up his sleeve on this issue. I can tell you this though: There won't be any more town hall meetings unless there are more audience plants in the future.
And without town hall meetings, microphones and cameras - public uproar is less publicized and people go back to thinking their opinions are helpless against this legislation.

At least on television there won't be an American citizen, or "consumer" (as they like to call us) voice.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by tallymebanana]

[edit on 20-8-2009 by tallymebanana]

There is no doubt he's a 1 term president, he only won because he got a high percentage of the white vote and the senior vote, he has destroyed his trust with these very groups with health care and other socialized programs he is trying to push!

LOL 8 months in and some are counting him out because he hasn't saved the world yet!

Our Country didn't get into this mess in 8 months and it will take more then 8 months to dig us out.

If things stay the same Obama will be blamed by spin doctors, if things change he will be blamed by spin doctors. The common denominator being that Obama just being Obama is the cause of all our woes-real or imagined. We all know that is simply not true though.

Amazing how shortsighted Humans can be.

The possibilites of what could happen in the rest of Obamas term are simply to numerous to calculate.

One thing you can bet on though is that every week on ATS there will be another thread about Obama and what he has or has not done.

Originally posted by Pathos
Could Obama's Career Be Over?

It should have been over the minute America found out that he had been a member of Rev. Wrights anti-white cult for 20 years. But he served kool-aid and skated through. His life has been a career of bamboozling and running for office. Nothing more. I don't see an end to that ever happening. Unfortunately.

edited to add -

Originally posted by Helmkat
Our Country didn't get into this mess in 8 months and it will take more then 8 months to dig us out..

Every time I see this I have to .
Obama isn't digging us out.
He's digging us in deeper.



[edit on 8/20/2009 by FlyersFan]

Ron Paul for President!!

Pathos, your problem is you watch WAY TOO MUCH TV!

What you are hearing & seeing is ridiculous lunacy fake right/left paradigm to distract you and the other dumbed down idiotic sheeple from what is really going on. This "alleged" President is a puppet spokesman for TPTB. If you want to have an affect, TURN OFF YOUR TV NEWS!

Get a life, turn off your TV, read, study, exercise, help others, play with your dog, watch videos....DO NOT WATCH TELEVISION NEWS!

Info babes in $2000 costumes and $500 hair dues reciting their lines doesn't make them an expert. They are doing what they are told to do and what they are paid to do, "ACT"!

It's called "PERCEIVED REALITY", and it is NOT reality, so turn it off and you will discover a new reality.

Get your opinions from "true" sources, like Economist, Political Experts, Scientist etc, NOT TV NEWS ACTORS...


(I will not respond to any ignorant comments)

[edit on 20-8-2009 by octaviameister]

Originally posted by Helmkat
We are each welcome to our own views in our "make your own reality" world.

Hun ... the facts about what he's done are there. It's reality. My 'make your own reality' happy place is a much better place then the reality we have here.

Only time will tell if the shovel you think he wielding is undermining or laying a foundation.

So far what he is doing is making things worse.

As far as what you said about undermining or laying a foundation, it's clear he's doing both. He's undermining the USA and at the same time laying a strong socialist 'spread the wealth around the planet' foundation.

this reads like a foot stamping conservative bleating wishful thinking kind of thread.

could it be that you woke up in some gun laden fantasy world?

Obama ain't goin nowhere and has HUGE support.

just because of a few noisy fascists, the world won't change.

Is Obama's career over? Erm. No.

Save this thread and repost it in 3 years when people will be making their decision on whether or not he's been a good President. The American public has the attention span of a puppy in a field of squirrels covered in bacon. We won't really know how the next election will go until its right on top of us.

People were still rooting for McCain (even on here) on election night, and that wasn't even close as far as elections go.

Originally posted by jam321
I will not count him out. He is just too much of a smooth talker. If this had been a good economy, Obama would have had his way with little trouble.

Obama may very welll win reelection if the economy fully recovers by 2012.

It's all about the economy.

I hope not!

Obama is probably doing as much damage as possible without realising it.

The USA being under his yoke for another 4 years would be hard rocks to swallow.

I think he's almost certainly a one term President. He built himself up during the race as someone opposite of Washington; he promised way too much. If you think about it, anything he could have done upon coming into the oval office would not have helped him in the long run. He basically promised the world before he got in; it's only natural there will be a huge let down.

Every other politician always runs on "Change Washington." It's politics as usual, and people know that for the most part. With Obama, he really had people hoping and believing.

On top of that, the media HELPING him at every turn over the months, EVEN spinning major gaffs/problems, or downplaying them have really hurt him with middle America.

Over exposure is another huge problem for him. He could probably help his cause if he just stayed out of the limelight every once in awhile. He's on TV more than any other President in history.

I remember the lead up to the 2000 Presidential race; one of the major character flaws of George Bush was actually something desired by a lot of people - his 'straight talk' and 'simplicity.' With Obama, it was his 'charisma' and 'intelligence.' Our country is fickle and we have political patterns.

I mean, they're all puppets - liars - double talkers......but I think he's cooked, no matter what he does from here on out.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Manwin]

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Manwin]