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Originally posted by yayap3
Okay, I have a serious question, but it is still funny (just can't help it).
When you are astral projecting, do you still feel bodily impulses like itching, or more importantly, the urge to use the bathroom? This is assuming you don't need to go when not in a trance, but if the need arose when you were already in the astral realm. When you are projecting, does it all just "slide out" if you are full? I am going to start astral projecting, I'm still gathering info, but I would think it would be a good idea to thoroughly empty your waste before starting. Is there any truth to my theory?
Not sure if Phi pointed this out, but the very best time to do a OOBE is very early morning.
Originally posted by SpaceSilence
Hi phi1618!
Two nights ago i was trying to produce an Oobe. I kept going for an hour or two, but i got tired and went to sleep. I woke up in the morning, went to the bathroom, come back and i was thinking i should try to produce an Oobe again. I didn't have an Oobe, i had a dream, after i woke up after the dream, for a few seconds, then again pops to my mind '' Astral Projection '' ( i remember that i asked for help to someone in the astral realm. I think i asked for help to a guardian or my guide, don't know for sure ).
After i went back to sleep with my mind only on AP and putting my self in one side, with my view on the window, after a few seconds happened.
I felt like someone was pushing me out of the bed. I hit the ground flour with my head, but in slow motion. I could barely see with my left eye ( i had problems with my left eye before i went to sleep in that night ) and i try to turn around to see if something was there. Nothing was there. I didn't pay attention to see if i was there, but i think i was not.
My room was almost completely different. I have my bed next to the wall with my view to the window, but in this experience the bed was in the middle of the room and the windows were in different place, but still in front of my bed ( in my view ).The room was bigger, and i could see the surroundings in light.
So after that i said, '' i did it, i gotta stay focused'' . I wanted to go to see stuff in the room, and in an 0.00001 seconds i was were i wanted to be!
But i knew i was about to lose concentration, and in a few seconds i did. I woke up and felt happy for the Oobe and sad that i lost my concentration.
My questions to you are:
How do i maintain my concentration ? ... because i don't frankly get it. Does it take practice? ..... this was my first time i did this with my own desire. I experienced an Oobe when i was a little kid. I guess that i lost my practice.
How do i know when i'm ready to get out of my body , and how to do that. ... i don't know how to get out. How do i do that? I gotta move or i i gotta think that i can move, or how. I simply don't get it.
Is it that the more experiences you have like this the more skillful you are ?....
PS. I was surprised when on the first page you've put the '' Mummy Pose ".
I'm using that more often then anything. I didn't even knew people use it, so i felt kinda strange.
Thanks for reading. Peace.
Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
reply to post by Moraz
This one is easy if I may.
It is far easier to go out of body AFTER a short period of rest. This will drastically improve your odds against falling asleep. It is best to give the mind/body complex about 4+ hours of rest then try. Many people set an alarm to go off at around 3-4am after. Then move to the couch and do a sitting conscious OOBE. Trust me when I say your odds are greatly improved. This aids trance meditation as well as OOBE. The only problem is it required dedication to a scheduled event. Some people are simply too lazy or find it impacts their sleep cycle in a negative way.
Originally posted by Spirit Warrior 11:11
Regarding astral entities that are representative of self.
I have never experienced this. Consciously anyway. However Robert Monroe described scenarios where he encounted this.
He describes a scenarios where he had to enter a building for example. There would be no doors or anything obvious. He had to solve the puzzle of changing consciousness levels or vibrations to enter. He describe these events as self induced. However I must clarify that he asked his higher self to guide the experiences to what he needed to experience. So in essence the entities and scenarios he encountered were self induced but not consciously.
Another author describes encountering entities that were representative of an emotional vibration or a representation of the ego. Someone correct me, I think it was William Buhlman. In these experiences there seemed to be an entity preventing passage or preventing movement. He discovered it to be a creation manifested by the subconscious. The goal is to confront the seemingly negative experience with curiosity and engage the entity in a discussion. He suggested being open and objective in asking what it represents. Many cases he reported that 'they' simply needed acknowledgement. In others the discussion allowed him to address the emotional creation and harmonize (my word) with it.
Again I have not experienced this, but some have written about it.
Originally posted by phi1618
reply to post by TheOracle
only the higher self is a self projection ( and the spirit guide ), the rest im not sure about they could be other projectors in some cases or just plain old astral entities.
each represents a higher plane of yourself, remember your a multidimensional being
Originally posted by secretstash
OK, so I have a few things. I have tried being the good little Christian and strictly following the bible, but that is hard for me as I was never raised in church like my husband. I feel like I am missing part of the picture and have started investigating alternate religions and comparing them.
Your post has awakened an interest in astral projection for me. I remember that I used to have dreams as a child that I could fly. I always had to start off bouncing until I could get high enough to really take off. These dreams would stay with me for weeks. I always have fantastic dreams and I am wondering if these things are precursors to astral projections. I have read several accounts of flying in the astral and I wonder was I really in the astral or just trying to get there.
It never felt like a dream at the time. It seemed very real to me.
Originally posted by TheOracle
Originally posted by phi1618
reply to post by TheOracle
only the higher self is a self projection ( and the spirit guide ), the rest im not sure about they could be other projectors in some cases or just plain old astral entities.
each represents a higher plane of yourself, remember your a multidimensional being
But what made you come to this conclusion? How did you know it was you and not your guide. And what is the difference with the real guide?