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Topic started on 8-8-2009 @ 12:52 PM by kinda kurious

Glenn Beck's Obama "Racist" Comments Cost Him Advertisers


www.huffingtonpost.com
Fox News' Glenn Beck is feeling the consequences of his controversial comments on the July 28 episode of "Fox and Friends," when he said that Barack Obama was a "racist" who had a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."
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reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 01:13 PM by kinda kurious
reply to post by hotbakedtater



I agree. A metal fastener and the word pooch come to mind. I used to like him too. No doubt he fell victim of his own success. Oh well, Perhaps that is why Murdoch will just charge the viewers under on his new business model for web.

www.guardian.co.uk...

[edit on 8-8-2009 by kinda kurious]


reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 01:23 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh



Yes. If you piss off your sponsors, they will withdraw their sponsorship. it's generally in the contract made with the station. This is exactly how it's gone since ads first started appearing in media in the late 1800's with magazine ads.

There comes a point where ignorance crosses the threshold and becomes stupidity. Pretending not only that sponsors have never withdrawn their advertisements before, but that this is further some tragedy of the modern day, very certainly crosses that line.


reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 01:23 PM by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by HunkaHunka



Do you have a clip of what was said?

reply to post by Cito



He did not get fired. He declined to re-sign the contract and got offered a better deal at Fox.

Quit lying.


reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 01:25 PM by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by TheWalkingFox



Oh, I know that.

All I am saying is that it just seems like one more drop in the bucket.


reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 01:27 PM by misterhype
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh



we have the freedom of speech but when it comes to making money you sometimes have to bite your tongue because the companies handing out the money don't always want to be associated with such opinions.


reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 01:29 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh



Which bucket? The "Make sure you don't say stupid crap that peeves off the customers" bucket?


reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 02:34 PM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by qonone
Beck is too much, and too much of an idiot (eg: for saying this on national tv) at times.

But this comment was true, race plays the biggest issue, and some will learn the hard way. Us whites keep quiet for everything and still we try and smooth things over, even when it ain't our fault. Screw that.


Actually you will find people on all sides who are trying to smooth things over.

The thing is that Racism isn't academic. It's based on prejudice which is a process of reflexive analysis whereby we project our own feelings and beliefs onto others. These feelings or beliefs can originate from previous experiences with other individuals or from whatever mythology we have been taught.

You know that song that goes "Women seem wicked, when you're unwanted". There's a huge truth to that. That's a form of prejudice. If you are in a relationship and get cheated on, all a sudden every woman now looks like she just wants to screw around on her man. At least for a time. At the same time, if you do feel unwanted you begin to despise the sex you wish to be desired by. These are examples of reflexive analysis projecting fears which are based on previous individual experience.

You might, as a man, believe the myth that women don't want to have sex as often as a man. That will inform how you relate to women, what you think of them, and what you believe to be real.

Because the result of these reflexive analyses are very real in the subjective realm.

I once cheated in a marriage. The next day it honeslty felt that when I looked at people that they *knew* what I had done. This was me projecting my own sense of guilt on to everyone else. Now in this situation there was contrast. This was the first time I had ever felt this about the people I ran into, and the logical reasoning that there was no way anybody knew what had happened made me reflect on what was going on. But even though I logically realized that no one could possibly know what I had done, I still couldn't shake the experience every time I talked to someone that day.

This occurs not just with genders, but across racial lines as well. There is no way a man can ever understand a woman , he projects what he believes upon her, yet yer own unique female existence can only be grasped at by a man. The same is true for women to men, and the same is true across races and ethnic cultures.

It's actually more granular than races, but occurs that way. For example, being in the presence of Irish folk is completely different from being in the presence of Italian folk.

Likewise its much different being in the presence of Americans from South Carolina than it is being in the presence of Americans from North Dakota. We all come with our own gender and cultural identifiers which give us different intonation and body language from each other. And what one persons body language might mean in their cultural locality can be completely different from what that same body language means in another cultural locality.

And when you mix gender and race on top of identifiers of cultural locality you've now increased that two fold. Now, a female from North Dakota might be better able to relate to a female from South Carolina as it relates to similar gender, but other cultural uniqueness might throw her off on accurate communication.

To me, this is the biggest problem. Is that, even though we can become aware of the fact that this process exists within us through a crisis like I described above, we aren't typically aware that we assume so much about people all the time which is incorrect. We project so much on to others that unless we can understand our own patterns of projection, we will never be able to properly apprehend who the other really is.

We should be talking about how we should all become aware of the prejudices we bring to the table so that we don't mis understand what is really being communicated to us.

America is like Europe in one particular way. We have many different cultural groups within our borders. Only instead of being other nations, they are states and regions, but they all have their unique history and the peoples who form these groups all have their own unique and complex narratives, and thus their own unique and complex prejudices.

I will also go on to say that this is the foundation of not only racism, but all forms of cultural misunderstandings such as misogyny, religious differences etc.

Keep in mind that what may appear to be racism from one perspective may be completely innocuous from another.



[edit on 8-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]


reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 02:55 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by RRconservative





Anyway....you can't sit in Rev. Wright's church for 20 years and not expect the hatred to rub off.


I was getting ready to post that,

I agree with beck



Louis Farrakhan, head of the Nation of Islam, says Obama has been "very careful" to avoid the path of failed presidential hopefuls Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who openly militated for black causes. "He has been groomed, wisely so, to be seen as a unifier, rather than one who speaks only for the hurt of black people," Farrakhan said.



some of you guys, been had.
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