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posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 03:22 AM
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reply to post by Sam60
 


SIze does matter, it seems ...




posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Wonderer77

Originally posted by Tifozi

We are just assuming things here, at least untill an official report comes out.



Excellent suggestion - I'm sure an 'official report' will clear things right up . . . probably a weather balloon.


Roswell doesn't happen every day.

If you see a duck crossing the road, and a official report issued states that it was a duck, just because it's a "official report" you are going to say "IT'S ALIAN!" ?

I'm just not in that hurry to classify everything alien without EVIDENCE.

Like I said before, I have seen trucks like these, with equipment very similar to the one on the photo... And it was just a wind generator.

[edit on 17/8/09 by Tifozi]



posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:23 AM
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Which part of the photos looks like these...

power-options.co.nz...
www.marinescene.co.uk...
www.pro-umwelt.de...

I have been on the highway right next to a truck carrying a wind turbine, and there was only one truck in front of the semi, not an escort. This is not part of a wind turbine.



posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by Tifozi
 


Which part of the photos looks like these...

power-options.co.nz...
www.marinescene.co.uk...
www.pro-umwelt.de...

I have been on the highway right next to a truck carrying a wind turbine, and there was only one truck in front of the semi, not an escort. This is not part of a wind turbine.


I wasn't talking about little turbines that you put on birthday cakes...

I was talking about wind generators:

www.maraoonline.com...

And I live close to a factory of this colossal turbines, and it's not "just a car in front" etc etc...

They close the highway and 3 or 4 police cars escort the truck(S), with the normal civilian pilot cars and all.

Once I get them again on the way home, I'll take some pictures, just for the sake of comparison.


[edit on 17/8/09 by Tifozi]



posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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Wow, I leave for the weekend, come back and people start really reaching. I mean really reaching! It doesn't look anything like it! I mean cmon dude do better than that!



posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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Seriously, which part of that photo even resembles what was on I-20. I would think that the disinformation would be better than this by now. All we've gotten so far is a F-35 and a wind generator. Keep trying!!!



posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 11:16 AM
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Wtf? Disinfo?

Dude, just because I don't sniff coc aine and rush into a forum trying to find ANYTHING that fits into my theory, doesn't mean I'm a disinfo agent of any of that crap you make up so you can justify your lack of proof.

People were saying "OMG! Explosions! Flashs!", and that day, during that night there was a fireworks show. That's a FACT.

You don't even know what a wind generator is, you post some ridiculous house turbines (that don't even need to be in a truck that big), and then you claim you have all the answers just because you have found the wrong answer.

That photo is from a COMPLETED wind generator. Did you get that? COMPLETED! There are components INSIDE (can you keep up? INSIDE... Like... UNDER THE HOOD... or.... NOT VISIBLE EXCEPT WITH X-RAY...) that in a BLURRY photo taken from a cellphone will actually look like a UFO or weird aircraft. I HAVE SEEN IT, that's why since DAY ONE (of course you don't recall that because you are so busy keeping your delusion going) I have stated that it may be a wind generator, or something of that kind.

Stop being an ass.

Do you know what "open your mind" means? To clarify your ideas, watch and learn, investigate on your own, BOTH WAYS... Open you mind, so you can see what is really relavant, and open your mind so you can dismiss the useless and stupid stuff out of the way, because every second you waste investigating this stupid event, is another second that could be used to investigate THE REALLY GOOD CASES.

You think I'm a disinfo agent? Sure... Good for you. Take your beautifull thread of day-dreaming. I won't be a part of it anymore, since I'm such a good agent (that isn't EVEN IN YOUR COUNTRY (admins can verify that)).

And btw, I'm not even a skeptic. I'm just not an idiot.



posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 12:46 PM
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Wow man...calm down.

First off, do you really need to sink to that level here? So people think your explanation is a tad "wrong" (I don't think you were right either. Please don't attack me).

But jeez man! Holy crow!

Didn't your mama teach you anything about manners?

You are in a UFO section of a conspiracy forum! What on god's earth gives you the green light to start calling people idiots for leaning towards the UFO-side of a subject here?

You said all those really rude things about people being idiots here because your little wind turbine post didn't settle all their doubts. Well gee...are they idiots or did your big answer just not deliver concrete proof enough to end the questions being asked?

Seeing as your so hostile and overly rude, I wouldn't blame anyone for calling you a disinfo agent (though I do not think you are...just rude). Disinfo agents try to make anyone on the right trail feel stupid for even considering anything out of the way of disinfo.

UFO or not...try to keep it civil man! Just for the sake of ATS?

What do ya say?

PS- Naw...I don't think thats a wind turbine (or inside component). My friend who "works on said machines" in Texas said "no way". I am willing to consider he is wrong. But guess what, I don't call him an idiot for trying to HELP me figure this out. But he assures me that it is not a wind turbine component.

Have a smashing day!


[edit on 17-8-2009 by Mr Mask]



posted on Aug, 17 2009 @ 02:56 PM
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i agree with Mr Mask!! if this is a "wind turbine"..as you claim it to be soo bad...where is your proof? i want to see a pic of a wind turbine that looks EXACTLY like whats on the truck, since you claim you know EXACTLY what it is....come on i want to see a "wind turbine" with that EXACT same shape...and iv seen some of the pics ppl have been posting of them, and the so-called f35 idea......doesnt look anything like either one. i mean you sit here and bash people who cant provide poof on what they believe it to be, but here you are SO SURE its a "wind turbine" because "your friend" works in a factory or something....well...WHERES YOUR PROOF???? i can say i have aa friend who works at Groom Lake, and they told meit was a alien space craft...but i dont have proof to back that up...see what im saying?? So mr. wind turbine...show us some pics that look EXACTLY like whats on that flatbed...and dont go google some b/s either of a big wind mill that looks NOTHING like whats on that truck.....im really tired of seeing things people seem to KNOW what it is, and it looks NOTHING like it....



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Mask

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[edit on 17-8-2009 by Mr Mask]


Oh really?

So, according to your point I'm wrong in defending my position?

I gave a sugestion, since day one, that this could be a part of a wind generator/turbine/wtv, because FROM MY LIFE EXPERIENCE I have seen things like this many times travelling along the highway with huge escorts with motorcycles and police cars.

I didn't said "IT IS!", I said "it may be". Then he said "impossible" and gave WRONG examples. I replied that it wasn't those turbines, I was talking about a big one. And just because he didn't see my point, he called me a disinfo agent.

This sort of movement IS NORMAL, PERIOD. Anyone who travells a lot in the middles of the night have seen things like this.

If you think of it, why the hell would the military make such a stupid move? The CH-47C Chinook has the capability of transporting 20000 pounds with the hook... Why take a UFO on a truck with highway traffic?

BUT that's why it's worth looking into it..

Since day one I have been saying that this story has some loose ends, that we need to look into, but must be carefull not to go the wrong way, and if you want to clear your options, first, you must eliminate the ones that you know your wrong, right?

That was what I was trying to do, eleminate a wrong possibility by giving a mundane example. If you have someone that is an expert on wind turbines and can confirm that this object isn't a part of a wind turbine, fine! Better! Case closed!

But if you say "wind generator" and I think of that little toys that you put on top of your house, that you can buy on Ikea, and then call you a disinfo agent just because I don't see your point, and not helping making progress into this investigation, just making wild alegations, HOW DO YOU WOULD FEEL?

I'm just tired of people being complete idiots (this is not an insult, it's an adjective) just because they want to believe in something so deeply that they rule out any simple explanation.

I love this forum, so don't even try to explain me what this is or what it isn't.

I have always seen this like a place where you can debate with everyone that is a member (that's why it's called a forum), without abusing or without desrespecting the other people nor their point of views, AND if you are really one of those searching for the truth, you can actually debate and make progress. FFS, you are talking with someone in Portugal... I'm revewing that 1,300 pages of Brazilian material that was posted on another thread because I'm one of the few that can help with that language, so EVERYONE can benefit from that info..

But when you try to HELP (because I was trying to help, because I noticed he was searching deep for this case) and your help is disrespected and spitted on... Don't come an judge me because I freaked out and LOST (didn't do it from the beggining, lost it from that point) all the respect I had for him.

He disrespected me, not the other way around.

Untill people realize that noone is going to help us, that we are on our own and have to find everything by our own means, we are going to keep having situations like this.

When you are investigating, you must see ALL options. You don't just go around finding ANYTHING that makes evidence that the object X is a UFO, and dismiss all the other possibilities just because you don't want to...

[edit on 18/8/09 by Tifozi]



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Tifozi
This sort of movement IS NORMAL, PERIOD. Anyone who travells a lot in the middles of the night have seen things like this.

Well, maybe it is where you are, if you live near somewhere that builds these things. But, the people that saw it obviously don't agree with you.

What IS "normal", however, is fireworks. Everybody knows what fireworks sound like. I find it hard to believe that somebody would even bother creating a thread to ask if anyone knew anything about loud explosions that were "NOT fireworks". Sure, people offered up the fact that there was a firework display at some point as a possible for what he heard, but as he had already stated, and others agreed, that isn't what it was.

So, yes, we can take as many guesses as we like as to what this thing, and these sounds, were. But if they contradict the actual witnesses, it isn't going to get us anywhere.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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Okay guys, enough with the talk, lets get down to the nitty-gritty.

I used a series of filters in Photoshop, and i must say i got some results with the SmartSharpen, and Shadow/Highlights.

img256.imageshack.us...

[edit on 18-8-2009 by Warrior of the Light]

[edit on 18-8-2009 by Warrior of the Light]



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Warrior of the Light
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Your photos don't show up, neither the links work.

"The webpage cannot be found".



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:03 AM
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Here is the ImageShack Gallery for all who cant see my pics...

img256.imageshack.us...



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:08 AM
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CLEARLY shows that of a Craft-Shaped object



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:11 AM
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I've been thinking about the "fireworks " lately and I have to wonder....
1. How do these people live near here all these years and never before confused fireworks for explosions? I guess the racetrack could have used a different type they never used before??
2. How does the race track get around the noise ordinances? This was so loud, it woke people up and caused others to call the police. Very strange that.
I have emailed the race track general manager to see if he can provide answers to a few questions.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:17 AM
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Thank for posting that. A lot of the blurriness is gone! Yeah, I'm telling you, if this is just some everyday object, why has no one come forward with an official statement, and why would the radio lie and cover up what happened? Doesn't make since to me at all.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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If people said "it wasn't fireworks", and someone "ahh...You're crazy, of course it was!", then I would be with you on that point, because if people are saying something that doesn't have an explanation, it's evidence of something out of the ordinary.

But, when people say "I heard something like explosions" and there is a record (I'm following those reports on the first pages, where someone confirmed that in the racetrack there was a fireworks show that night) of fireworks, maybe there is another mundane explanation about the subject.

I'm just taking this defensive stand because here in Portugal *...for my frustation* we have fireworks shows and we have those old fireworks that just make noise, and one time I got pretty scared because one of those actually sounded like a whistle from a bomb falling.

And, for example if you are on the beach, and 5 miles on the other end there is a fireworks show, since the terrain is flat, the accustic plays a big role and it sounds a lot stronger than it would in "normal" conditions.

Just... Check it out. IMO, it was the fireworks that made people confused.

(I'm still checking the photoshoped pictures of the truck)

[edit on 18/8/09 by Tifozi]



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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Yeah, that's why I sent an email to the GM of the track to find out what exactly the dealio is.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
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Yeah, that's why I sent an email to the GM of the track to find out what exactly the dealio is.


My own assumption is that they will either make up some quirky story, because of the government's 'secrecy', or just plain out say yes, a UFO landed and the government now has it.





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