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reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 10:23 PM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to
post by HunkaHunka





but when did a congressman ever say they wanted to break Bush?


I guess you missed the 17 Congressional members that wanted to impeach Bush.


Those who wished to impeach bush were doing it based on a war which cost us greatly in American lives.

These who are trying to BREAK obama are trying to do so not because of what he has done, but because of what it will mean if he doesn't get this bill passed politically.

The very fact that you equate loss of American soldiers lives with pure politics as usual sickens me.

[edit on 5-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]



reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 10:52 PM by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by soldiermom



Yea, it isn't working so much. It seems to me that these people have forgotten that there were a lot of PO'd people when Bush left office. They remember all the stuff they are now talking down was only right when it was Bush in office.

They are up the creek without a paddle and they are too stupid to realize it.


reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 11:14 PM by soldiermom
reply to post by Hastobemoretolife



They are up the creek without a paddle and they are too stupid to realize it.


Everybody knows it but them. Well, almost everybody. We apparently have a few hangers-on here that think the protests are just some dastardly plot to get back at Obama. Oh how I long for the days when people actually thought for themselves and had something that resembled intellect.

Gunning for their attire. That's priceless.


reply posted on 5-8-2009 @ 11:19 PM by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by soldiermom



Yea, the informed people are the ones protesting now not the useful idiots.

The people that have realized they have been asleep at the wheel for too long and realize they have to do something about it.

I fear for this country.


reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 02:22 AM by Jerk_Idiot
Originally posted by canihavemyvoteback
reply to
post by ProfEmeritus



Thanks for the correction. Would you or anyone else like to comment on the leaked memo. Everyone seems to be conveniently leaving that point out of the conversation when it has alot to do the topic.


You Sir, are asking a honest question. I wil give you my answer. I always allow my opponents to choose the tactics of battle. The left, especially the Oboma White House, uses Chicago Democratic Machine tactics. They are the ones who pay people, and bus them to protests, who supply them with already made signs. The republican side is merely trying to use the same tactics of the left. They are not good at it but it doesn't matter much because the MAJORITY of those who are there are not used to being unemployed and being paid to be professional protestors. They are there because they really care about what is happening. A shock I know as there has been few protests of REAL people in a long time.I wish the Obama people were as civil and polite as you. A lot might be accomplished.



reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 02:33 AM by Jerk_Idiot
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to
post by HunkaHunka





but when did a congressman ever say they wanted to break Bush?


I guess you missed the 17 Congressional members that wanted to impeach Bush.


Those who wished to impeach bush were doing it based on a war which cost us greatly in American lives.

These who are trying to BREAK obama are trying to do so not because of what he has done, but because of what it will mean if he doesn't get this bill passed politically.

The very fact that you equate loss of American soldiers lives with pure politics as usual sickens me.

[edit on 5-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]


The fact you equate what Obama is doing with PURE POLITICS is what sickens me. Chicago Democratic Machine methods has never been the standard for PURE POLITICS. I HATE people threatening me if I don't do what they say. Having been in the military I would say MOST of those dead soldiers would HATE the METHODS Obama is using. The MEANS is as important as the ENDS. He claims he wants to hear but threatons anyone who disagrees with him. Perhaps I am wrong. His ADMINISTRATION does and he is responsible for them.


reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 02:40 AM by Jerk_Idiot
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to
post by grapesofraft



I don't recall dems doing any "pack the hall" tactics against bush.

Sure there were some crazies like Michael Moore who took pot shots, but when did a congressman ever say they wanted to break Bush? Did you see the memo?


I don't see the analog...


[edit on 5-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]


You are right. They didn't want to BREAK Bush. They wanted to kill him. Remember all the pictures of Bush put out with a gun to his head? I personally am against Obama. Chicago Democratic Machine politics can NOT be allowed in the White House. That is where he and his advisors are from. Find out about it! What they want might even be right. Their methods are SO wrong that it will DESTROY any good that they might do.


reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 05:08 AM by Rockpuck
reply to post by Rockpuck



Hey, she does have monies, go figure:

www.govtrack.us...

1.2-5.4 million dollars in fact (that's estimated reported.. always a under-estimate at that)


To be fair, many people support Ron Paul as a champion of the common man.. his net worth is: between $2,061,039 and $4,768,000



It's a fun site. Check how much you're congresscritter is worth. My rep is:

David Wu’s net worth was between $-49,987 and $398,997

(notice that is in fact a negative in front of the first number. lol

[edit on 8/6/2009 by Rockpuck]


reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 06:01 AM by WhatTheory
Here is another example of how deluded, hateful and desperate the dem leaders are becoming.

Pelosi: Town Hall Protesters Are "Carrying Swastikas"

This is incredible and frightning to hear these words against ordinary law abiding citizens from democratic leaders. And we know Ovomit feels the same way. Disgusting!!

It's ashame that obamabots and libroids cannot see past their rose colored Obama glasses that this administration and dem leaders are playing a sick game. Pathetic!


reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 09:27 AM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to
post by HunkaHunka





but when did a congressman ever say they wanted to break Bush?


I guess you missed the 17 Congressional members that wanted to impeach Bush.


Those who wished to impeach bush were doing it based on a war which cost us greatly in American lives.

These who are trying to BREAK obama are trying to do so not because of what he has done, but because of what it will mean if he doesn't get this bill passed politically.

The very fact that you equate loss of American soldiers lives with pure politics as usual sickens me.

[edit on 5-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]


The fact you equate what Obama is doing with PURE POLITICS is what sickens me. Chicago Democratic Machine methods has never been the standard for PURE POLITICS. I HATE people threatening me if I don't do what they say. Having been in the military I would say MOST of those dead soldiers would HATE the METHODS Obama is using. The MEANS is as important as the ENDS. He claims he wants to hear but threatons anyone who disagrees with him. Perhaps I am wrong. His ADMINISTRATION does and he is responsible for them.


Well that goes to your ability to read I suppose..

I equated what Senatro Jim DeMint was doing as Pure politics... trying to BREAK OBAMA and make this his WATERLOO... comparing that kind of practice to the practice of those in congress who wanted to impeach Bush who took us into a war and actually got people killed is what I'm talking about.

Either you misread what I typed, or you are actively spreading disinformation.


reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 09:28 AM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to
post by grapesofraft



I don't recall dems doing any "pack the hall" tactics against bush.

Sure there were some crazies like Michael Moore who took pot shots, but when did a congressman ever say they wanted to break Bush? Did you see the memo?


I don't see the analog...


[edit on 5-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]


You are right. They didn't want to BREAK Bush. They wanted to kill him. Remember all the pictures of Bush put out with a gun to his head? I personally am against Obama. Chicago Democratic Machine politics can NOT be allowed in the White House. That is where he and his advisors are from. Find out about it! What they want might even be right. Their methods are SO wrong that it will DESTROY any good that they might do.



Once again... this isn't a "turn about is fair play" tactic. People didn't try to impeach Bush until AFTER he had lied to the world in order to start a war.



reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 09:51 AM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Care to show where he lied?

That's a rather serious charge there.

Are you serious?



As the day is long...



Just watch any video of him speaking about his plan. Nothing he says is accurate. I'm at word currently so I cannot mess with video but I will post some for you later.



So you don't have any specific "lies" in mind? I don't need video... I need you to explain where he lied and about what.



For instance: He has said numerous times that his plan will be just as good as the plan Congress uses. Yeah, like that will ever happen.



Ok, so it's not so much as a lie as something you feel could never happen. That's a huge difference there.

You can't claim your own incredulity on a matter to be a lie someone told.


Obama says that you will be able to keep your own doctor and current private insurance. That is a lie and half truth. Obama has stated on video that his plan is for a single payer system and the current bill is geared towards making that happen.


You are completely misunderstanding what a
single payer system is.

For example, we have several single payer systems at work today in the gov, yet we still have private health insurance.

Medicare is a single payer system. So is Medicaid. yet there are still private doctors are there not?

I agree, the gov health care bill will be done as a single payer system, just like medicare and medicaid. However, that will not remove private healthcare...


So once again I ask... where are these lies you are talking about?

[edit on 6-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]


reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 09:53 AM by KSPigpen
Originally posted by dooper
reply to
post by ProfEmeritus


This bimbo turns my stomach, along with Pelosi. A more arrogant, pretentious, deceitful woman doesn't exist, unless it's Pelosi.

When she told the General to refer to her as "Senator" as she had worked so hard for her Senate seat, that wasn't exactly accurate.

She bought that seat for $1.5 Million.




Here Here. She has a complete lack of respect. I was so blown away with how the General maintained his composure in the face of that arrogant t@at. I bet he wanted to jump across the desk.

Sorry, back on topic. She's a dumba$$.
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